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UAE oil boss to lead COP28 climate summit, worrying environmental activists

The United Arab Emirates (UAE) says the head of state oil giant Abu Dhabi National Oil Company will lead this year's COP28 climate summit, fuelling activists' worries that big industry is hijacking the global response to environmental challenges.

Sultan Ahmed al-Jaber, who is also the UAE's minister of industry and technology and its climate envoy, will help shape the conference's agenda and intergovernmental negotiations to build consensus, his office said in a statement.
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I think there are some lawsuits brewing that may cost Exxon some of the recent windfall.

I thought this an interesting take
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Banking on Bailouts report.

https://www.banktrack.org/article/banking_on_bailouts
 
The Atheist said:
Given the huge success of the COPs so far, I can't see it matters. Not as bad as Saudi being given a seat on the women's commission at UN.
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Actually it could matter quite a lot.

as founding CEO of Abu Dhabi's renewable energy firm Masdar, in which Abu Dhabi National Oil Company (ADNOC) has a 24 per cent stake, Mr Jaber does have green credentials, having overseen its mandate to adopt renewables in the UAE... He is also overseeing an acceleration of ADNOC's low-carbon growth strategy approved late last year...

Mr Jaber, who according to the statement would be the first CEO to serve as COP president, said the UAE would bring "a pragmatic, realistic and solutions-oriented approach"
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The UAE's response to climate change
The deployment and use of clean energy solutions is one of the main pillars of the UAE’s model of addressing the challenge of climate change and reducing GHG emissions. The country began financing clean energy projects more than 15 years ago, and has invested over 40 billion USD in the sector to date. Current trends predict the production capacity of clean energy, including solar and nuclear, to reach 14 GW by 2030, up from about 100 MW in 2015 and 2.4 GW in 2020.

The UAE supports green infrastructure and clean energy projects worldwide, and has invested in renewable energy ventures worth around 16.8 billion USD in 70 countries with a focus on developing nations. It has also provided more than 400 million USD in aid and soft loans for clean energy projects.
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The UAE has an estimated 299 years of proven oil reserves left at current global consumption levels, so they have no economic need to cut their own consumption. But they are anyway. How many other countries can say that?
 
macdoc said:
I said much the same to a statistics wonk who insisted the 40s timeline that the UN touts for 1.2 was mostly correct.
I said it was a decade off.
Sans active decarboning ....learning to live with and try and preserve biodiversity in the face of the very inevitable 2c might make better use of funds.
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I'm increasingly of the opinion that we are quite likely to blow through 2.0C, without pause, by mid-century, if not sooner, and 3.0C, if not 3.5C by the end of the century, sans a near miraculous complete overhaul of global economics and human civilization upon our planet within the current decade, or so.

IOW, literally up a very thick and stinky creek without a paddle
 
Skeptical Greg said:
What they sell has a lot more impact than what they use..

How do those numbers look?
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Which is why Norway in their electric cars and 2 trillion euros in the bank from North Sea are the ones who should be saving the world.
 
The Atheist said:
I think that's a given...
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...among some circles, certainly!

We are approx. 1.2°C above most averages for 1880, given current increases are running at 0.2°C/decade, so four decades (circa early 2060s) is more in-line with the same "radical" suggestions that many in these circles were suggesting as likely, several decades ago. I see the rate of increase continuing to increase, however, and realize that my own mid-century projections were actually probably too conservative. It would not surprise me for us to reach 2.0 within the next 1.5 - 2 decades, and it's a coin-flip in 3 decades,...and a near certainty by four decades, regardless of what non-binding international agreement PR greenwashing occurs over the next 2-3 decades.
 
Samson said:
Which is why Norway in their electric cars and 2 trillion euros in the bank from North Sea are the ones who should be saving the world.
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2T$ sounds more like the rounding error of what is ultimately required to redress the problems caused by shifting 100s of trillions in Private profits acquired by gift, grift and corruption in the Public management of the Commons.
 
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Trakar said:
Fund-raising off a good climate-Hawk article!
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Where's the fund-raising? Nobody's asking for money - it's a simple analysis of the bleeding obvious.

Every El Nino in the past 40 years has led to new record temperatures and it's no surprise the warmest year was an El Nino year.

Presuming the modelling for El Nino to kick off this year, let's check back in 2024 and see how things look.
 
I'm betting in the 30s for solid 1.2 regardless of ENSO and mid century for 1.5.
Are we not already at 1.1 solid?
Wish there was more good news on the serious sequestering front. :rolleyes:
 
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Not a valid question in the context - green hydrogen assumes a carbon neutral source of electricity and the article explains the efficiency in the same range as current electrolysis which requires pure water.
Using raw sea water is a huge gain.
Transport still becomes a problem for hydrogen....the engine technology is there.

We have split natural seawater into oxygen and hydrogen with nearly 100 per cent efficiency, to produce green hydrogen by electrolysis, using a non-precious and cheap catalyst in a commercial electrolyser,” said Professor Qiao.

A typical non-precious catalyst is cobalt oxide with chromium oxide on its surface.

“We used seawater as a feedstock without the need for any pre-treatment processes like reverse osmosis desolation, purification, or alkalisation,” said Associate Professor Zheng.

“The performance of a commercial electrolyser with our catalysts running in seawater is close to the performance of platinum/iridium catalysts running in a feedstock of highly purified deionised water.
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key points bolded.
 
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