9/11: The Smoking Gun

yankee451 said:
Dropping by to check out the comments. As usual, the true believers can't get past the television show. So, for those of you who are critical thinking-challenged:

Have you ever seen the movie of the bank heist where the criminals put a photo of the bank vault in front of the security camera to dupe the guards into thinking the vault is okay, while it’s being robbed? The wily criminals simply hide their vault-cracking activities behind a photograph of a pristine vault. It works every time (at least in Hollywood). Shows like Hudson Hawk, Speed, and Mission Impossible, old and new, have used this camera-spoofing technique.
https://911crashtest.org/pulling-the-wool-over-the-eyes-of-the-world/
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Are you seriously arguing that people here have been fooled by a "television show" that you think worked on them because it worked in some movies you saw? I believe this is technically referred to as "an argument that disappeared up its own ass."
 
Steve said:
As usual, the conspiracy theorists cannot comprehend reality and substitute their rather bizarre fantasies.
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See, like this one. Anyone who doesn't buy into the television show, can't comprehend "reality."

Edward Bernays laughs and points.
 
turingtest said:
Are you seriously arguing that people here have been fooled by a "television show" that you think worked on them because it worked in some movies you saw? I believe this is technically referred to as "an argument that disappeared up its own ass."
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If you say so.
 
Fonebone said:
The explosion of the projectile, a 105mm howitzer projectile, creates the illusion of the port-side engine hole to the left of the center fuselage hole created by the cruise missile. The starboard engine hole and wing illusion was created in a similar manner with a yet unnamed projectile launched from the west. Both oblique missiles that created the wing scar illusions were launched at the exact instant the cruise missile explosion and
hidden by the cruise missile fireball.
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No such precision timing was needed.

It is very important to understand the timeline; none of the so-called “live” shots of flight 175 shows the impact, meaning all of the shots that were broadcast live depict what appears to be a plane flying behind the towers, followed by an explosion; but no collision. No one ever saw the impacts live on television. Anyone who says they did, is mistaken.

https://911crashtest.org/9-11-truth-what-could-have-cut-the-plane-shaped-hole/
 
If it wasn't on television, it didn't happen. If it was on television, it was faked and didn't happen.

Faultless logic. If only the evidence for what happened on 9/11 didn't consist solely of what people who weren't there recall seeing of it on their televisions. Alas, I guess we will now never know.

Next up: Titanic - not televised, so was it iceberg or missiles?

Extinction of the dinosaurs - asteroid or... No fossilised dino videotape has been found so I guess it's missiles again.
 
Jack by the hedge said:
If it wasn't on television, it didn't happen. If it was on television, it was faked and didn't happen.

Faultless logic. If only the evidence for what happened on 9/11 didn't consist solely of what people who weren't there recall seeing of it on their televisions. Alas, I guess we will now never know.
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Wow, what a trip.

The logic goes like this, if what was shown on the TeeVee depicted a real event, then the physical evidence would be consistent with it. Something cut the holes in the towers, but according to the physical evidence and physics, it wasn't what was shown on television. If you disagree, and believe that the physical evidence, the photographs of which we all have access to, is consistent with what was shown on the TeeVee, then by all means, please enlighten me.
 
yankee451 said:
No such precision timing was needed.

It is very important to understand the timeline; none of the so-called “live” shots of flight 175 shows the impact, meaning all of the shots that were broadcast live depict what appears to be a plane flying behind the towers, followed by an explosion; but no collision. No one ever saw the impacts live on television. Anyone who says they did, is mistaken.

https://911crashtest.org/9-11-truth-what-could-have-cut-the-plane-shaped-hole/
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What?? What silliness is this? :confused:

https://www.1001crash.com/aviation-...es-flight-175-crash-into-the-south-tower.html
 
yankee451 said:
Wow, what a trip.

The logic goes like this, if what was shown on the TeeVee depicted a real event, then the physical evidence would be consistent with it. Something cut the holes in the towers, but according to the physical evidence and physics, it wasn't what was shown on television. If you disagree, and believe that the physical evidence, the photographs of which we all have access to, is consistent with what was shown on the TeeVee, then by all means, please enlighten me.
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We get it. You've failed. You've wasted time and half-baked effort with your silly counter story of 9-11, and no one who is sane will buy into it. It's so frustrating for you.

The evidence shows two hijacked airliners crashed into the World Trade Center. That you choose, for whatever sad reasons, not believe it is your failure. You have shown zero credible evidence. You have demonstrated you lack any knowledge of cruise missiles, aircraft, the military, black ops, junior high school physics, and how things work in New York. We don't have to explain anything to you. You've never gotten past the fact that over 200,000 people saw the attacks in person, not on TV.

You fail.
 
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yankee451 said:
... by all means, please enlighten me.
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The nub of the problem is this. You are doggedly unenlightenable. This horse may well continue to be led to water again and again forever but it will never acknowledge the existence of the water let alone try to drink it.
 
yankee451 said:
Wow, what a trip.

The logic goes like this, if what was shown on the TeeVee depicted a real event, then the physical evidence would be consistent with it. Something cut the holes in the towers, but according to the physical evidence and physics, it wasn't what was shown on television. If you disagree, and believe that the physical evidence, the photographs of which we all have access to, is consistent with what was shown on the TeeVee, then by all means, please enlighten me.
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A futile task indeed. Would require a passing acquaintance with reality on your part.
 
yankee451 said:
Dropping by to check out the comments.
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And to try to change the subject from the questions you couldn't answer, I see.

You might explain why the fuselage and the rest of the structure of the missile magically disappears in your video.
 
yankee451 said:
Wow, what a trip.

The logic goes like this, if what was shown on the TeeVee depicted a real event, then the physical evidence would be consistent with it. Something cut the holes in the towers, but according to the physical evidence and physics, it wasn't what was shown on television. If you disagree, and believe that the physical evidence, the photographs of which we all have access to, is consistent with what was shown on the TeeVee, then by all means, please enlighten me.
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Why should anyone attempt to enlighten you when you stubbornly cling to a fantasy. What happened to the plane if it didn't hit the tower? What happened to the crew and passengers?
 
Robin said:
And to try to change the subject from the questions you couldn't answer, I see.

You might explain why the fuselage and the rest of the structure of the missile magically disappears in your video.
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....because the plane was just a laser hologram...?







...yes, that was sarcasm.
 
This link, titled :


NISTNCSTAR1-2B
Federal Building and Fir eSafety Investigation of the
World Trade Center Disaster
Analysis of Aircraft Impacts into the
World Trade Center Towers
Chapters1,2,3,4,5,6,7 & 8,


retrieves the official investigation and explanation of the WTC plane impacts
and resultant scars.

PDF is 294 pages long and takes a long time to load.

https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg...d945e3cb8995ef55.pdf#page=1&zoom=auto,-29,528
 
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