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Drag Shows!!
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Upchurch
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In the particular case of drag queen story hours, yes, you are imagining things that are not happening due to media driven moral panic.
I understand. Those are two of the three things our culture feels we need to protect children from. The third is obscene language.
Not to speak for other people, but when people go all in on trying to stop one of the three, usually the sexuality, it is to the neglect of one or both of the other two. People who balk at their imagined vision of drag queen story hour think nothing of walking around armed. I believe there was even a protest mentioned up-thread on that point.
Upchurch
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But drag isn't necessarily a fetish. It might just be gender fluidity. Or, it could even be a performance art. You can't just assume its fetishism.
tyr_13
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The existence of sexually charged drag no more means that drag is inherently sexual and must be kept from anyone under the age of eighteen than the existence of lap dances means that ballet is inherently sexual and must be kept from anyone under the age of eighteen. (Yes, I'm aware that ballet also has a sexually charged history.)
Upchurch
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I feel the the plot of Footloose starting to form from this discussion.
plague311
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Does that give this thread a Bacon number?
Thermal
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If this is not supposed to be fetishized, why is it a Drag Story Hour at all? Do they also sponsor Mom Jeans Story Hours? Three Seasons Ago Unfashionable Dad Story Hours?
Upchurch
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Why do you put flashing lights on movie marquees? To attract attention. According to wikipedia,
I guarantee you that young kids will pay more attention to the flashy drag queen putting on dramatic reading than the unfashionable dad.
eta: Was Monty Python fetishizing drag in their comedy sketches or was it just part of their performance?
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Thermal
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Sure, a dancing monkey is greatly entertaining. Then whenever you see a monkey, you expect it to dance for you.
We could look at that, even setting aside that the Pythons were deliberately trying to be ridiculous.
Shall we start with the Lumberjack Skit?
That would indicate you are in the wrong thread - the topic of this one is "Drag Shows" - not "transvestic fetishism, which is a paraphilia".
That would indicate you are in the wrong thread - the topic of this one is "Drag Shows" - not "transvestic fetishism, which is a paraphilia".
See the above example I gave of a public library employee dressing up for a reading/sing-a-long, it seems dressing up is not unusual in a library setting.
Making things more interesting for kids is generally a good pedagogical rule-of-thumb.
plague311
Great minds think...
So if you see a baseball player in a restaurant you expect him to start playing baseball for you?
autumn1971
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“Silencing”
Your stupid word.
I hate your fascism, and say so, but I can not and do not try to silence you.
Only government action can realistically be called “attempt to silence parents’s voices.”
It is a fascist tactic to view any criticism as censorship.
You have that in common with Stalinists.
Wannabe dictators gonna dictate
tyr_13
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I have friends who do 'Princess Story Hour' and 'Super Hero Story Hour'. Do you think those are also done to be fetishized?
It is truly, deeply, funny how much trouble people have letting go of their initial preconceptions, in this case of drag.
EDIT: Like some people got half mast at Misses Doubtfire and it's everyone else's problem now for some reason.
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bruto
Penultimate Amazing
Maybe nobody thought of it until you did. Get out your old leisure suit and call the library.
Carrot Flower King
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Or even just, y'know, a bit of dressing up and playing with make up...
Thermal
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No, but I'm sure you'll find that recognizable celebrities are expected to pose for pictures and autographs pretty relentlessly, athletes included.
Do you think a kid who is young enough to attend a story hour would have any reservations about saying "there's the man who wears a dress!"
Carrot Flower King
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Mebbe I will, but only after you stop throwing around ridiculous abuse like "unnatural freaks" and actually start to make a hint of a coherent argument. Which you haven't so far.
Meanwhile, I'm off to talk to my cats...
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