“Woke”

[arthwollipot]

It will be Punch and Judy next...

Domestic violence in a children's puppet show? Yeah, people have raised eyebrows at that, but it's generally regarded as harmless fun, mostly since it is obviously a puppet show and doesn't pretend to be anything else. You can still see Punch and Judy shows in a lot of countries, and it still follows the same basic plot - Judy asks Punch to look after the baby, he fails at this duty, they get into a fight, a policeman comes, Punch murders the policeman, Punch murders pretty much everyone else. Harmless fun.

 

[catsmate]

Well, we have removed all doubts you just plain do not like Americans.
I have noted the a vast majority of people who use USAian do not like Americans very much.

Oh good grief, you really are reading your prejudices into my comment.
I made no mention of Americans, you read that into my comment on the US economic system.
Do you dispute that USAian capitalism cares nothing for human beings?

 

[catsmate]

Eh, I'm an American and I use USAian. The post you quoted removed all doubts that they don't like our economic system, but our economic system =/= our country.

I've worked with enough people who got sick (cancer), couldn't continue to work due to that sickness, then lost their job and because of that their insurance/ability to pay for medical care to survive that sickness, that I agree a large part of our economy is sociopathic disdain for others.

Eactly. So many people here seem to have developed telepathy....

 

[bluesjnr]

OMG!...England!. Didn't you learn anything when that guy got reported for singing Kung Fu Fighting?

'Cultural insensitivity' is the Wishy Washy reason that charity Aladdin panto got the Chop Chop

I suppose these cast members should consider themselves lucky their rehearsals didn't get taken out by a SWAT team.

I agree that it's a reach to accuse the panto of cultural insensitivity but it also appears to me that the refusal to "sanitise" the offending names by the cast and producers is piling spite upon spite that only hurts the charities involved and local panto fans.

One group may well be classed as woke, the other seem to be asleep.

 

[Stout]

I agree that it's a reach to accuse the panto of cultural insensitivity but it also appears to me that the refusal to "sanitise" the offending names by the cast and producers is piling spite upon spite that only hurts the charities involved and local panto fans.

One group may well be classed as woke, the other seem to be asleep.

One would think it would be a simple thing to change the name of a couple of characters then carry on however I suspect there's more going on that the article reveals.

If I had to guess, the committee employed some sort of sensitivity reader who delivered a wholesale condemnation of the script (e.g., actors portraying characters outside their race) and rather than risk having the cast transported to Australia they decided the best course of action was to kowtow to the woke complainers and scrub the whole production.

 

[d4m10n]

That's not saying anything, that's mealymouthed weasel words.

Once again, you've failed to state your own position.

 

[bluesjnr]

One would think it would be a simple thing to change the name of a couple of characters then carry on however I suspect there's more going on that the article reveals.

If I had to guess, the committee employed some sort of sensitivity reader who delivered a wholesale condemnation of the script (e.g., actors portraying characters outside their race) and rather than risk having the cast transported to Australia they decided the best course of action was to kowtow to the woke complainers and scrub the whole production.

Given that men play women, women play men and that panto will have one "Chinese" character played by a non native it would be a car crash of sensitivity issues.

Such pantos with these roles are a traditional staple in the UK at Xmas.

 

[Stout]

Given that men play women, women play men and that panto will have one "Chinese" character played by a non native it would be a car crash of sensitivity issues.

Such pantos with these roles are a traditional staple in the UK at Xmas.

Under woke doctrine gender bending is AOK but the race thing could land the cast a visit from The Keystone Cops, which might just make for an interesting and hilarious ending to a pantomime in these censorship happy times.

 

[Stout]

Today's episode of hilarity in wokeness once again comes out of England.

Jesus could have been transgender.

When he was hanging around on the cross getting stabbed by a Roman (who were all transgender due to the skirts they wore, probably) spear, the wound in his side looked like a vagina, complete with blood flowing down to his groin.

 

[theprestige]

Today's episode of hilarity in wokeness once again comes out of England.

Jesus could have been transgender.

When he was hanging around on the cross getting stabbed by a Roman (who were all transgender due to the skirts they wore, probably) spear, the wound in his side looked like a vagina, complete with blood flowing down to his groin.

The best part is, the claim is based on artistic representations from the Rennaissance period. I had to read the article twice, carefully, to confirm that the claimant really was trying to say that these paintings were accurate representations of Jesus, and constituted good evidence for what he really looked like and what his gender identity really might have been.

Really, it's the weird modern habit of attributing current fads and fashions to earlier periods. Like the knee-jerk assumption that every homosocial depiction from antiquity onwards must necessarily be homosexual.

 

[Darat]

The best part is, the claim is based on artistic representations from the Rennaissance period. I had to read the article twice, carefully, to confirm that the claimant really was trying to say that these paintings were accurate representations of Jesus, and constituted good evidence for what he really looked like and what his gender identity really might have been.

Really, it's the weird modern habit of attributing current fads and fashions to earlier periods. Like the knee-jerk assumption that every homosocial depiction from antiquity onwards must necessarily be homosexual.

They tie up with the Shroud of Turin so seem very authentic to me!

 

[IsThisTheLife]

So a picture of a bleeding wound makes some observer think of a menstruating vulva. Does this tell you something about the picture, or the observer?

 

[wareyin]

Once again, you've failed to state your own position.

That's nice, but as this is your boogieman and yet you can't state a position, why should anyone else have to?

 

[Stout]

So a picture of a bleeding wound makes some observer think of a menstruating vulva. Does this tell you something about the picture, or the observer?

Seriously, how hard to you have to torque your interpretation of art to come up with this crap?

 

[pgwenthold]

Ron DiSantos's lawyers have defined "woke" in response to the lawsuit challening their "anti-woke" law. They say woke is, "The belief there are systemic injustices in American society and the need to address them."

And it absolutely needs to be made illegal for government employees.

 

[theprestige]

I'd define it as "the ongoing process of uncritically discovering novel systemic injustices, and uncritically endorsing such discoveries proclaimed by others."

 

[bruto]

I'd define it as "the ongoing process of uncritically discovering novel systemic injustices, and uncritically endorsing such discoveries proclaimed by others."

So by your definition there, you would not be "woke" if you endorsed old, long-standing systemic injustices, nor if you did it critically?

 

[d4m10n]

Ron DiSantos's lawyers have defined "woke" in response to the lawsuit challening their "anti-woke" law. They say woke is, "The belief there are systemic injustices in American society and the need to address them."

Here is the source for that quote:

https://twitter.com/elfsternberg/status/1599223334642012160

 

[theprestige]

So by your definition there, you would not be "woke" if you endorsed old, long-standing systemic injustices, nor if you did it critically?

Who said anything about endorsing injustices?

 

[bruto]

Who said anything about endorsing injustices?

Unless you have suddenly and unexpectedly succumbed to the error of run-on sentences you did:

"discovering novel systemic injustices, and uncritically endorsing such discoveries"

As I said, I presume that statement excludes endorsing injustices that are not novel, and critical evaluation.