Electric universe theories here.

[Sol88]

You really do realize that you don't know what you are talking about, right?

Hans

Quite happy to kick back champ and just watch the people that do know what they are are talking about whack code into a super computer to try and work the wonderous mystery of income extraction, from a completely falsified model.

That’s the code you should use.

Just a hypothetical question for you and based of the latest data and simulations, is it possible that AGN jets and astrophysical jets in general are indeed Force Free Field Aligned Currents?

Regards of code or math?

‘Cos,

"High-luminosity jets are easier to find because they create massive structures that can be seen in radio observations," Tanner explained. "Low-luminosity jets are challenging to study observationally, so the astronomy community does not understand them as well."

They are NOT well understood in the astro commune....

Ah ha, I see what now...

Tanner modified the Athena astrophysical hydrodynamics code to explore the impacts of the jets and gas on each other across 26,000 light-years of space, about half the radius of the Milky Way. From the full set of 100 simulations, the team selected 19—which consumed 800,000 core hours on the NCCS Discover supercomputer—for publication.

astrophysical hydrodynamics code... well there’s ya blue!

Gas and fluid code?

In a plasma?

Can this code handle Scott’s model for a field aligned force free electric current? Be interesting, one would think.

Any body run such a large simulation on this sorta supaPuter with PIC or kinetic plasma code?

Be worth a crack, Shirley?

 

[MRC_Hans]

Can I invoke electric fields into play? Regarding solar plasma and the Parker solar probe.

Or do I have to stick with gravity, regarding solar plasma and gravity?

Well, regarding "solar plasma and gravity", that is of course about gravity. Is English your native language?

However, obviously electrical fields play a role. And even more, magnetic fields play a role.

And, gravity plays a role. A big one. What is so difficult to understand about this?

Hans

 

[Sol88]

@mrc hans, do you ven know what a FAC, field aligned current is?

I’m only assuming you do and it might lead me to think you what I’m talking about.

 

[Sol88]

Well, regarding "solar plasma and gravity", that is of course about gravity. Is English your native language?

However, obviously electrical fields play a role. And even more, magnetic fields play a role.

And, gravity plays a role. A big one. What is so difficult to understand about this?

Hans

Great, we have lift off!

Using standard garden variety school physics, which would accelerate a charged particle more effectively, an electric field or a magnetic field?

 

[hecd2]

Would your gravity on the sun affect the the ions and the electrons in this PLASMA differently? Seeing how we’ve just re established they have different mass’s.

Having spent years showing you know nothing about electromagnetism, you now show that you know nothing about gravity. What do you think Galileo demonstrated by dropping balls off the Pisa tower?

 

[hecd2]

Can this code handle Scott’s model for a field aligned force free electric current? Be interesting, one would

You’re forgetting that Scott’s model is garbage and shown to be garbage. Suffering from amnesia, are you?

 

[hecd2]

Using standard garden variety school physics, which would accelerate a charged particle more effectively, an electric field or a magnetic field?

Which is larger - E or v x B? Why?

 

[steenkh]

Give me some time on the super duper computer to run my “code” thru it and prove galaxy and star formation are electrical.

Considering that you don’t use mathamajicks in EU, and accordingly can’t put anything into code, I doubt that you could prove anything, no matter what sort of super duper computer you use.

 

[Sol88]

Having spent years showing you know nothing about electromagnetism, you now show that you know nothing about gravity. What do you think Galileo demonstrated by dropping balls off the Pisa tower?

He has big balls?

How about if he dropped a feather? Mmmmmm.....

 

[Sol88]

Which is larger - E or v x B? Why?

Well, if your stuck...

HOW DOES A PARTICLE ACCELERATOR WORK?
Particle accelerators use electric fields to speed up and increase the energy of a beam of particles, which are steered and focused by magnetic fields. The particle source provides the particles, such as protons or electrons, that are to be accelerated. The beam of particles travels inside a vacuum in the metal beam pipe. The vacuum is crucial to maintaining an air and dust free environment for the beam of particles to travel unobstructed. Electromagnets steer and focus the beam of particles while it travels through the vacuum tube.

Electric fields spaced around the accelerator switch from positive to negative at a given frequency, creating radio waves that accelerate particles in bunches. Particles can be directed at a fixed target, such as a thin piece of metal foil, or two beams of particles can be collided. Particle detectors record and reveal the particles and radiation that are produced by the collision between a beam of particles and the target.

How Particle Accelerators Work

Ummmmm....Electric field.


So why does mainstream only have a magnetic field to use?

Like in your main model for plasma a Magnetic fluid physics (space gas) model. Space gas being plasma of course.

Our you allowed to use the electric fields? Or is that still taboo?

 

[steenkh]

Well, if your stuck...

How Particle Accelerators Work

Ummmmm....Electric field.


So why does mainstream only have a magnetic field to use?

Like in your main model for plasma Magnetic fluid physics (space gas) plasmas

Our you allowed to use the electric fields? Or is that still taboo?

Perhaps you can explain how particle accelerators work with EU theories instead of science?

 

[Sol88]

Particle physics, also called high-energy physics, asks basic questions about the universe. With particle accelerators as their primary scientific tools, particle physicists have achieved a profound understanding of the fundamental particles and physical laws that govern matter, energy, space and time.

I’d be asking the basic questions first there sport.

Could electric instead of magnetic fields be better particle accelerators?

You could ask hecd2, seems pretty cluey with the numbers.

 

[Sol88]

It’s electric fields silly. All ways has been.

Now DOUBLE LAYERS are a wonderful astrophysical object.

Caveat, not all electric fields are double layers but all double layers are electric fields.

Electric fields are pretty good at accelerating particles.

Double layers by the way not only accelerate particle’s, did you know that ziggurat?

 

[Sol88]

Which is larger - E or v x B? Why?

Magnetic fields are pretty good at shaping plasmas, even very weak ones.

Let alone guiding spiraling electrons and confining and collimating plasmas.

Hell if the electrons are not spiraling any more, wonder what would happen?

Would they have a velocity restriction since they no longer have to spiral along the guide field line?

Not sure how you put that into math. Ponderable question.

 

[hecd2]

How about if he dropped a feather? Mmmmmm.....

In a vacuum? You're trying to cover up your abysmal ignorance of gravity.You think particles with different masses are "affected" differently. Dumb.

 

[hecd2]

Which is larger - E or v x B?

Why?Well, if your stuck...

You don't know do you? You can't know because your question has the same validity as "how long is a piece of string?"

 

[hecd2]

WSo why does mainstream only have a magnetic field to use?

In this context, because E is small and v and B are large.

 

[Sol88]

E is small?

Well your magnetic fluid ain’t accelerating particles.

In MHD, where is E, again?

 

[hecd2]

Well your magnetic fluid ain’t accelerating particles.

Why not? You do know what v x B means? Wait... You don't.

 

[Sol88]

In this context, because E is small and v and B are large.

Cart before the horse their, squire.


Why is E small? ‘Cos maths confirms it?

Observation says no. How are the magnetic fields accelerating particles, now we have established the current sheets and plasmids involved in “magnetic” reconnection.

Any E, in it?

Because, if it’s just a rearranging of electric fields and currents and the associated “reconnecting” magentic fields, then E should feature somewhere in MHD.

Your model, magnetogas is propa cooked. Does not work and you need to up the E a smidge.

Can your maths handle it?