Merged Musk buys Twitter!/ Elon Musk puts Twitter deal on hold....

[Warp12]

Twitter launched in 2006 and evolved over the years.

Musk has had it for less than a month. I would give it at least a year to develop under him. By then I think things will have settled down and we will have a more solid picture of what the future holds.

I'm not going to die on a hill over the exact length of time, though. It really depends on the arc it takes as it evolves to whatever it is going to become.

I love how he framed it where he can't be wrong too. "Oh, a time frame? Nah, I got nothing. That way I can keep saying 'the arc' is still happening forever."

What a load of garbage.

Yes, how crafty of me to "frame it that way". You're on to my game.

I'm trying to be realistic. I don't think you can put a date on it, but certainly not less than a year. There are likely to be many, many changes and adjustments.

 

[tyr_13]

Yes, Twitter is hiring again.

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy...itter-2-0-after-mass-layoffs-and-resignations

In the comments on the above link, I found a link to the following story from somebody who worked at SpaceX

https://at.tumblr.com/numberonecatwinner/elon-wyd/13h0toz593k4

The tl;dr is that the entire culture at SpaceX was oriented to managing Elon; to manipulate him into the right decisions and to serve up a penis shaped cake on his birthday disguised as a rocket.

Has anyone posted this yet?

[qimg]https://i.imgur.com/Jo52xROh.png[/qimg]

Source: https://twitter.com/rob_sheridan/status/1595319316249186304?s=20&t=q9tO11HQMzG3ar6Ttjyl6g

Yeah.

 

[jeremyp]

Has anyone posted this yet?

[qimg]https://i.imgur.com/Jo52xROh.png[/qimg]

Source: https://twitter.com/rob_sheridan/status/1595319316249186304?s=20&t=q9tO11HQMzG3ar6Ttjyl6g

Yes. I did. And there’s been quite a few comments about it.

 

[jeremyp]

Ars Technica is reporting that Elon has broken his promise to create a moderation council. He says it's everybody else's fault.

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy...rm-twitter-moderation-panel-blames-activists/

 

[The Don]

Ars Technica is reporting that Elon has broken his promise to create a moderation council. He says it's everybody else's fault.

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy...rm-twitter-moderation-panel-blames-activists/

It's an old, old story. Any successes are solely down to his individual brilliance and any failures are entirely due to other people.

 

[jeremyp]

I paid $44 billion and all I got was this lousy t-shirt

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1595250835096621057?s=20&t=qrV7Q-bFcf5j1JFK5RnlQw

 

[catsmate]

From: Yahoo
Elon Musk is done with layoffs at Twitter, at least for now, and has no intention of moving the company's headquarters from San Francisco....Now, Twitter may even start hiring again. Musk said during the meeting he is looking to bring in more engineers...Musk on Friday made an urgent call for "anyone" left at Twitter who could write software to meet with him. Engineers who remain with the company are continuing to reach out to coworkers who were laid off or resigned asking them if they're interested in returning...

Given the fact that Twitter just went through significant turmoil, and Musk made comments about expecting Twitter employees to put in more effort/work harder, threatened to end remote working, etc., why would he expect software engineers to be particularly interested in joining twitter at this point?

Only the ones who can't get jobs elsewhere.

 

[catsmate]

What damage? Twitter appears to be working just fine so far.

You might wasnt to pop in and visit 'The Real World' sometime.

 

[catsmate]

Ars Technica is reporting that Elon has broken his promise to create a moderation council. He says it's everybody else's fault.

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy...rm-twitter-moderation-panel-blames-activists/

His Muskiness is going full Trump.

 

[jeremyp]

More firings

https://twitter.com/alexeheath/status/1595701492006014977?s=20&t=ruNMv1gAU190x6274YxFAQ

On the evening before Thanksgiving, some Twitter engineers received an email saying they were fired because their “code is not satisfactory.” Others received “performance warning” emails asking them to “restore our confidence and demonstrate your contributions to the team”

On Tuesday, Twitter’s remaining engineers were told they had to send “code samples” via email every week.

Engineers who were fired via email this evening are being offered 4 weeks of pay in exchange for signing a separation agreement and release of claims.

These are people who chose to remain at Twitter and they are now being fired with four weeks severance instead of the three months they could have had if they had not signed up to Musk's "work like a slave" directive.

 

[Segnosaur]

I have to admit, prior to the whole Twitter debacle, I actually had some respect for Musk.

He's had his name on some pretty impressive stuff... SpaceX, Tesla, The Boring Company. Yes, not everything of his panned out. And I recognize that he was not the sole cause of any successes. Competent engineers, managers, etc. play a significant part. (Just how much Musk was necessary for their successes is something I'm not sure about...)

Still, the idea of a wealthy person using their resources to push new technology and new ideas was something I thought was a good thing... doing things that large established companies might be hesitant to do. Its what I thought the world needed more of. (Compare that to, for example, the Koch brothers, who used their wealth to bribe republicans to let them wreck the environment.)

And not only that, I rather enjoyed some of his humor... the launching of one of his Teslas into space... even his 'joke' of bringing a sink to Twitter headquarters... "let that sink in".

Unfortunately, the experiences with Twitter have really soured his image, in my opinion.

 

[jeremyp]

I have to admit, prior to the whole Twitter debacle, I actually had some respect for Musk.

He's had his name on some pretty impressive stuff... SpaceX, Tesla, The Boring Company. Yes, not everything of his panned out. And I recognize that he was not the sole cause of any successes. Competent engineers, managers, etc. play a significant part. (Just how much Musk was necessary for their successes is something I'm not sure about...)

I'm curious: what exactly was it you found impressive about The Boring Company? All they have achieved so far is inventing road tunnels, again.

Still, the idea of a wealthy person using their resources to push new technology and new ideas was something I thought was a good thing... doing things that large established companies might be hesitant to do. Its what I thought the world needed more of. (Compare that to, for example, the Koch brothers, who used their wealth to bribe republicans to let them wreck the environment.)

And not only that, I rather enjoyed some of his humor... the launching of one of his Teslas into space... even his 'joke' of bringing a sink to Twitter headquarters... "let that sink in".

Unfortunately, the experiences with Twitter have really soured his image, in my opinion.

The first Tesla Roadster off the production line was earmarked for Mark Eberhard, the man who actually co-founded Tesla and who had the idea of "electric cars that people want". When Musk grabbed control of the company, he decided to take tat car for himself. Eberhard was eventually palmed off with a lesser model. This was the same car that Musk launched into space. The whole stunt was a very spectacular and expensive middle finger to one of Tesla's real founders.

Whenever you dig into any of Musk's achievements, you always seem to be able to find something really unsavoury.

 

[Gulliver Foyle]

What buying Twitter has done is to expose Musk as a bad grifter who got lucky to have lots of people around him to cover up for him.

Because he doesn't have his meatshield at Twitter, everything stupid about the man (and there is quite a lot of stupid) is now coming out in the wash, and worse yet for him it's coming out from his other companies too as the spell is broken.

 

[Checkmite]

The first Tesla Roadster off the production line was earmarked for Mark Eberhard, the man who actually co-founded Tesla and who had the idea of "electric cars that people want". When Musk grabbed control of the company, he decided to take tat car for himself. Eberhard was eventually palmed off with a lesser model. This was the same car that Musk launched into space. The whole stunt was a very spectacular and expensive middle finger to one of Tesla's real founders.

Whenever you dig into any of Musk's achievements, you always seem to be able to find something really unsavoury.

Indeed; and I'd like to stress that how Musk is known to have run his other companies, and what employees of those companies have to say about him and how they had to manage him, is extremely relevant in any discussion about his acquisition and management of Twitter. It directly helps explain why his management of Twitter has been so inept, and why this fully solvent, global communications company has within the space of a month suddenly found itself on the precipice of bankruptcy purely and solely as a result of Musk's takeover.

 

[d4m10n]

It directly helps explain why his management of Twitter has been so inept, and why this fully solvent, global communications company has within the space of a month suddenly found itself on the precipice of bankruptcy purely and solely as a result of Musk's takeover.

Do you somehow have access to their balance sheets?



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[Darat]

Do you somehow have access to their balance sheets?



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Musk has told his staff that they are near bankruptcy, so we don’t need to have access to their balance sheet.

 

[jeremyp]

Musk has told his staff that they are near bankruptcy, so we don’t need to have access to their balance sheet.

Yes he has said that. However he has previous form.

Last year, just before Thanksgiving, Musk put out a memo to his SpaceX staff saying that they needed to work out the bugs in the Raptor engine because they needed to get Starship operational this year (2022) to make Starlink cost effective. Therefore, he wanted everybody to work over the holiday weekend and, if they didn't, there was a very real chance that SpaceX would go bankrupt . I think on that occasion he was full of crap because Starship is not operational but there is no sign of SpaceX going bankrupt. I think it was a ruse to get his staff to work the holidays.

This could be the same thing. He could be doing it just to scare the staff into working harder. On the other hand, we know Twitter didn't make a profit last year and we know he's loaded it with an extra $1 billion per year in interest payments and we know the advertisers are leaving in droves. If he hadn't slashed his staff costs, Twitter definitely would be going bankrupt.

Personally, I agree: he's not bluffing this time.

 

[Segnosaur]

I have to admit, prior to the whole Twitter debacle, I actually had some respect for Musk.

He's had his name on some pretty impressive stuff... SpaceX, Tesla, The Boring Company. Yes, not everything of his panned out. And I recognize that he was not the sole cause of any successes. Competent engineers, managers, etc. play a significant part. (Just how much Musk was necessary for their successes is something I'm not sure about...)

I'm curious: what exactly was it you found impressive about The Boring Company? All they have achieved so far is inventing road tunnels, again.

I admit that the Boring company hasn't had the success that Tesla/SpaceX has, and it isn't as much of a technical revolution.

From Wikipedia:
According to Musk, the company's goal is to enhance tunneling speed enough such that establishing a tunnel network is financially feasible.... future boring operations will implement simultaneous boring and tunnel reinforcement to reduce cost, in addition to reducing tunnel size, reusing soil materials for tunnel construction

So not exactly a huge upgrade in technology, but if successful could possibly make transportation within cities better. (Again, a bit more respectable than "lets give money to republicans so they can repeal environmental and financial regulations".) Noble goal, even if it is falling short.

Still, the idea of a wealthy person using their resources to push new technology and new ideas was something I thought was a good thing... doing things that large established companies might be hesitant to do. Its what I thought the world needed more of. (Compare that to, for example, the Koch brothers, who used their wealth to bribe republicans to let them wreck the environment.)

And not only that, I rather enjoyed some of his humor... the launching of one of his Teslas into space... even his 'joke' of bringing a sink to Twitter headquarters... "let that sink in".

Unfortunately, the experiences with Twitter have really soured his image, in my opinion.

The first Tesla Roadster off the production line was earmarked for Mark Eberhard, the man who actually co-founded Tesla and who had the idea of "electric cars that people want". When Musk grabbed control of the company, he decided to take tat car for himself. Eberhard was eventually palmed off with a lesser model. This was the same car that Musk launched into space. The whole stunt was a very spectacular and expensive middle finger to one of Tesla's real founders.

Doesn't matter where he got the car from... I still find it amusing that he launched a Tesla into space.

 

[junkshop]

...Doesn't matter where he got the car from... I still find it amusing that he launched a Tesla into space.

Maybe I'm being dense, maybe I'm not stoned enough, maybe I don't have a sense of humour, but I don't get the joke. How is this amusing?

 

[arthwollipot]

Okay, here it is. Welcome back to the disinformation superspreaders.

Elon Musk offers general amnesty to suspended Twitter accounts

Poll organised by new owner backed reopening accounts, leading to fears ‘superspreaders of hate’ will return to social media platform


Elon Musk has announced a general amnesty for suspended Twitter accounts in a move that brought a warning that “superspreaders of hate” will return to the social media platform.

Twitter’s new owner said an amnesty for blocked users would begin next week after a majority of votes in a poll on his account backed the move. Accounts suspended on Twitter include Donald Trump’s former adviser Steve Bannon, rightwing UK commentator Katie Hopkins and David Duke, the former Ku Klux Klan grand wizard.

Musk had launched a poll on Wednesday asking if a general amnesty should be offered to accounts provided they have not “broken the law or engaged in egregious spam”. Musk did not specify which laws he meant. More than 3.1m votes were recorded by the poll, with 72% in favour of an amnesty.