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Aridas said:
On a quick look, I'm coming up with the story that Musk's programming, back when he did it, was long and multi-purposed, rather than concise and focused. It would hardly be unthinkable for a guy like Musk to quietly consider that to be the better way to handle things and favor others who did so. With that said, I didn't see any specific corroboration on a quick search.
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I found this

“They took one look at Zip2’s code and began rewriting the vast majority of the software. Musk bristled at some of their changes, but the computer scientists needed just a fraction of the lines of code that Musk used to get their jobs done. They had a knack for dividing software projects into chunks that could be altered and refined whereas Musk fell into the classic self-taught coder trap of writing what developers call hairballs—big, monolithic hunks of code that could go berserk for mysterious reasons.”

― Ashlee Vance, Elon Musk: Tesla, SpaceX, and the Quest for a Fantastic Future
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Which corroborates your first point, if not the subsequent speculation.
 
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I Am The Scum said:
I actually predicted he would do this when I first heard about the prints.
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Printing out all the code they wrote? Utter lunacy, on many levels. Back in the dim and distance past when I wrote code for a living, I didn't do it in isolation, and I was often adding to or modifying existing code written by someone else, and there would have been no practical way to list what I alone had written.
 
People in this thread raise your hand if you've had more than 100 lines of code pass QA and merged into a production branch that gets pushed out to paying customers to generate revenue.
 
theprestige said:
People in this thread raise your hand if you've had more than 100 lines of code pass QA and merged into a production branch that gets pushed out to paying customers to generate revenue.
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Me. My first job after college was writing code for a small business. ASP, SQL, and php. Although, the QA department didn't exist. Or I could say, the QA dept was me getting the receptionist to try and break stuff.
 
tyr_13 said:
But Tesla's non union and screwing it's employees as hard as they can! Isn't that supposed to come out with the best resulted in Capitalism? It's worked so well with the Chinese that he praises for working the 996 system! The BEST products!

(A lot of /s in there if anyone needed it pointed out.)
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True, but my point is that Musk has hard time coping with the idea he has competion, and cannot dominate the market the way he once did.
Henry Ford is a good comparasion. He was very slow in the 1920's to get he hand competion, and they were putting out better cars for the same cost as his Model T.
 
Aridas said:
On a quick look, I'm coming up with the story that Musk's programming, back when he did it, was long and multi-purposed, rather than concise and focused. It would hardly be unthinkable for a guy like Musk to quietly consider that to be the better way to handle things and favor others who did so. With that said, I didn't see any specific corroboration on a quick search.
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The only corroboration was some programmers saying they had been told the same thing.

As it turns out, I wasn't doing anything wrong trying to get the links to work; the account was locked while I was reading the thread and now can't get back to it.

The user was @mcmillen, and it looks like they locked their account, but the details were in responses to a Tweet I no longer have access too. See a bit more below.

I Am The Scum said:
I actually predicted he would do this when I first heard about the prints.
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The printouts were always funny, but the thought of them being handed to some department head from Tesla while the programmer has to explain which code was theirs is hilarious.

That said, as stupid as that all is, it is entirely possible some programmers took a statement like 'that's not much' as 'that isn't many lines of code' when it could have meant 'that's not difficult or important work'.
 
jimbob said:
Is it bad of me to wish him the full on Howard Hughes experience?

ETA, he was of course a major inspiration for Tony Stark in the first place
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IMHO Hughes acheived a lot more then Musk has.
Yeah, Hughes was who Stan Lee took the inspiration for Tony Starkfrom when Iron Man was created in 1962.
Of course in the MCU Tony's father became the Howard Hughes charecter..particulary in "Captain America:The First Avenger".
 
johnny karate said:
Musk dudebros out here really straining to defend their guy without completely torching their credibility.
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But there are fewer of them....
We had a couple of people who defended Musk because they were big supporters of Space Exploration and liked what Musk did with Space X...(and I agree).
But I never tried to defend Musk' every action the way they did.
 
tyr_13 said:
There are some reports that Elon had the programmers ranked by lines of code written in the last year, and then just terminated the people in the bottom whatever cutoff.

This is a very reliable way of making sure the programmers who worked on the most difficult things, and the ones who are best at writing efficient code, get fired (along with some who were sick for any amount of time or something). What is 'smart' about rewarding spaghetti cludge?
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But ..but Musk is a genius programmer........
 
jimbob said:
I was unclear.

I meant that Howard Hughes was supposed to be an inspiration for Tony Stark
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He was. The similiarties between the early version of Tony Stark and Hughes are very obvious.
But Howard Stark, Tony's father, became the Hughes avatar in the movies.
 
dudalb said:
Good motto for an Air Force, bad motto for a businessman.
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OK for a games developer, I guess... As long as the breaking things happens before release.

Really bad for an automobile manufacturer. Of course, that business model HAD been used in the early days of motoring, but the cost in accidents was too high.
 
dudalb said:
IMHO Hughes acheived a lot more then Musk has.
Yeah, Hughes was who Stan Lee took the inspiration for Tony Starkfrom when Iron Man was created in 1962.
Of course in the MCU Tony's father became the Howard Hughes charecter..particulary in "Captain America:The First Avenger".
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I was thinking about the germophobic Howard Hughes
 
dudalb said:
But there are fewer of them....
We had a couple of people who defended Musk because they were big supporters of Space Exploration and liked what Musk did with Space X...(and I agree).
But I never tried to defend Musk' every action the way they did.
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I looked at Tesla's financials with another student the other day and was absolutely astounded. Their sales are growing at insane rates for a company of that size--they were up 60% Y/Y in 2021 and it looks like they will almost hit that in 2022. Their margins are terrific and not narrowing. They will of course run into the law of big numbers eventually, but for now they are not kicking ass and taking names only because once they get done kicking ass there are no names left to take.
 
Well, I don't know if it's due to the takeover, but in the last couple of weeks I've gained half a dozen new followers with dodgy names, when I hadn't attracted any before. I'm not terribly active as a tweeter.
 
Fast Eddie B said:
For perspective, Tesla was founded 19 years ago. Not really fair expecting it to have sales equal to MB or the previously mentioned Toyota, both around for almost a century.

But I suspect this is a discussion better suited to another thread.
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I take it you'll be less hyperbolic in your assertions then?
 
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