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The Russian Invasion of Ukraine Part 4

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crescent said:
Russian commander admits that Russia has mined the Zaporozhye nuclear power plant and will destroy it rather than allow it to be racaptured:




Another source for the info:
https://twitter.com/sergeykovalenko/status/1556365223795326976?s=21&t=CQf67wIEaGR-dT5nZYebJg
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I think the scene from Chernobyl where they're briefing Gorbachev is on point:



"For Byelorussia and the Ukraine 'impact' means completely uninhabitable for a minimum of 100 years." I wonder what Lukashenko thinks of this plan. :rolleyes:
 
Klimax said:
Yep. Wagner group was the one responsible for Popasna (after prior R units got destroyed).
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Speaking of the Wagner group.

They're openly recruiting.

Russia’s private military contractor Wagner comes out of the shadows in Ukraine war

Mercenary group does not officially exist but is playing a more public role and openly recruiting in Russia


Three billboards in the Ural city of Ekaterinburg shine a light on what was once one of Russia’s most shadowy organisations, the private military contractor Wagner.

“Motherland, Honour, Blood, Bravery. WAGNER”, one of the posters reads.

Another, which locals said first appeared on the outskirts of the country’s fourth largest city in early July, depicts three men in military uniform next to the words “Wagner2022.org”.

The billboards, which can be seen in several Russian cities, are part of Wagner’s efforts to recruit fighters to join its ranks in Ukraine.

They also serve as a testament to the transformation the group has undergone since Moscow launched its invasion over five months ago, from a secretive mercenary organisation shrouded in mystery to an increasingly public extension of Russia’s military efforts in Ukraine.

“It looks like they have decided that they will no longer try to hide their existence. By now, everyone knows who they are,” said Denis Korotkov, a former Novaya Gazeta journalist and longtime observer of Wagner.
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Perun's latest (excellent) video. This time he's assessing the use of cruise and ballistic missiles in the Russian invasion of Ukraine:

 
crescent said:
Very dramatic - but wrong.
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Thanks for that. The video I watched was filmed from a car crossing the river on the Antonovsky bridge and showed what was presented (in English) as the building of a pontoon bridge.. It could have been a couple of those ferries end to end, unloaded. Commentary was in what was presumably Russian.

ETA: The Reddit thread involving the mining of the Zaporozhye nuclear power plant has been closed due to the information coming from a "a non-credible source and/or the source has not been linked from a top-level comment". Looks like we'll have to wait and see if this develops into anything significant or whether it gets tossed in the fake news bin. As to just who shelled the power plant, that's looking like more wait and see as well. I'm kind of skeptical that the Russians would attack a facility they've controlled for quite some time.
 
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Stout said:
Thanks for that. The video I watched was filmed from a car crossing the river on the Antonovsky bridge and showed what was presented (in English) as the building of a pontoon bridge.. It could have been a couple of those ferries end to end, unloaded. Commentary was in what was presumably Russian.

ETA: The Reddit thread involving the mining of the Zaporozhye nuclear power plant has been closed due to the information coming from a "a non-credible source and/or the source has not been linked from a top-level comment". Looks like we'll have to wait and see if this develops into anything significant or whether it gets tossed in the fake news bin. As to just who shelled the power plant, that's looking like more wait and see as well. I'm kind of skeptical that the Russians would attack a facility they've controlled for quite some time.
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Yeah, they've proven they don't do stupid ****, that's for sure. It's not like they'd drive through, or dig trenches in, the Red Forest.
 
Even forcing them to use a pontoon bridge is a big improvement for Ukraine. They don't have the nearly the throughput of a bridge bridge. And a ferry bridge even less so. Throttling what should be a flood of Russian supplies and reinforcements down to a trickle is excellent work.
 
Stout said:
As to just who shelled the power plant, that's looking like more wait and see as well. I'm kind of skeptical that the Russians would attack a facility they've controlled for quite some time.
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I'm more skeptical that Ukraine would bomb their own nuclear power plant on their own turf. It is their turf, regardless of whether Russia is squatting on it right now, and Ukraine would literally have to deal with the fallout if the worst happened.

This stinks of Russian desperation.
 
After a while, it becomes a vicious circle. Desperation leads to mistakes, which leads to more desperation. Which makes me wonder now if we've been underestimating the morale benefits of helping Ukraine and reinforcing the message that things aren't as desperate for them as was originally feared.
 
theprestige said:
After a while, it becomes a vicious circle. Desperation leads to mistakes, which leads to more desperation. Which makes me wonder now if we've been underestimating the morale benefits of helping Ukraine and reinforcing the message that things aren't as desperate for them as was originally feared.
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You worry perhaps that the Ukrainians might relax and get lazy about repelling the invasion if we help too much and make defending their country too easy?
 
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