The Russian Invasion of Ukraine Part 4

[Mike!]

Talking of trains carrying ammo blowing up

https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/wfgbpv/multiple_violent_explosions_as_a_result_of_himars/

That's a big one

Choo choo go boom boom.

 

[Doubt]

Also the Russians seem to rely a lot on trains to move ordnance and UAF are doing a lot of damage to the rail network as part of the "corrosion" strategy. As a US General said some years back "amateurs study tactics, professionals study logistics".

In the case of the US, it is because of the Spanish American war, which was one hell of a SNAFU. It was the reason the Army War college was founded. Fortunately, the Spanish were in worse shape than the US.

 

[acbytesla]

I see the US Senate voted 95 to 1 to admit Sweden and Finland to NATO.

 

[Spyke]

Talking of trains carrying ammo blowing up

https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/wfgbpv/multiple_violent_explosions_as_a_result_of_himars/

That's a big one

Choo choo go boom boom.

Nice.

 

[jimbob]

Talking of trains carrying ammo blowing up

https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/wfgbpv/multiple_violent_explosions_as_a_result_of_himars/

That's a big one

One of the comments on that:

And curious that when Russian hit a school / hospital / mall because "tHeY StOcK WeApOn ThErE" there is no explosion except the only cruise missile

 

[eerok]

Training 10K troops a month sounds good if a month is enough.

Canada to join British-led mission to train Ukrainian recruits (cbc.ca)

The plan amounts to the restart of Operation Unifer, the long-standing training mission which saw —until its suspension last winter — more than 35,000 Ukrainian soldiers given advanced combat instruction by Canadian soldiers.

That mission, conducted on Ukrainian soil, was halted and the troops pulled out of the eastern European country in mid-February on the eve of the full-scale Russian invasion.

It involved about 200 soldiers and included a contingent. Two of the three sources said the latest initiative with the British will "involve roughly the same number."

 

[SteveAitch]

I think this belongs in this thread (haven't seen it anywhere else - may have missed it, I suppose).


Useful idiot Corbyn mouths off.

 

[SpitfireIX]

I think this belongs in this thread (haven't seen it anywhere else - may have missed it, I suppose).


Useful idiot Corbyn mouths off.

"'Pouring arms in isn’t going to bring about a solution, it’s only going to prolong and exaggerate this war,' Corbyn said. 'We might be in for years and years of a war in Ukraine.'"


Begging the question of whether a Russian total or partial victory is preferable to continued war.

 

[The Don]

I think this belongs in this thread (haven't seen it anywhere else - may have missed it, I suppose).


Useful idiot Corbyn mouths off.

I cannot begin to estimate how many members Corbyn drove away from the Labour Party.

He has never left the 1960's sixth-form common room debating society. His "solutions" don't seem at all practical and amount to everyone should be nice.

Of course the source is a pro-Russian Lebanese media outlet so they may have placed a particular spin on what he said but then again, it's hardly out of character.

 

[Lplus]

I think this belongs in this thread (haven't seen it anywhere else - may have missed it, I suppose).


Useful idiot Corbyn mouths off.

I get the impression his hatred of the "West"/USA/Western democracy for its defeat of the communist/socialist model behind the Iron Curtain colours his every thought. Any enemy of my enemy is my friend.

 

[BobTheCoward]

I cannot begin to estimate how many members Corbyn drove away from the Labour Party.

He has never left the 1960's sixth-form common room debating society. His "solutions" don't seem at all practical and amount to everyone should be nice.

Of course the source is a pro-Russian Lebanese media outlet so they may have placed a particular spin on what he said but then again, it's hardly out of character.

pro Russian Lebanese? Is Lebanon particularly pro Russian or is it just this outlet? I hadn't heard if they were an ally

 

[SpitfireIX]

I cannot begin to estimate how many members Corbyn drove away from the Labour Party.

In the article, he is quoted as claiming that there was a "surge in membership" while he was leader. That strikes me as unlikely, though, and I wonder whether he is misusing statistics in making this claim.

 

[BobTheCoward]

"


Begging the question of whether a Russian total or partial victory is preferable to continued war.

Could be

 

[Lplus]

Could be

Under what conditions do you think that might be the case?

 

[jimbob]

pro Russian Lebanese? Is Lebanon particularly pro Russian or is it just this outlet? I hadn't heard if they were an ally

It's a consequence of the Civil War.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hezbollah_political_activities

Hezbollah has a lot of influence in parts of Lebanon.

 

[jimbob]

In the article, he is quoted as claiming that there was a "surge in membership" while he was leader. That strikes me as unlikely, though, and I wonder whether he is misusing statistics in making this claim.

There was, as he reduced the membership fee to £3

 

[BobTheCoward]

Under what conditions do you think that might be the case?

Ones where we are wrong about conditions in Ukraine and relative costs of future lives lost versus stability now.

It seems your question answers itself... conditions favorable to peace are the conditions where that might be the case.

ETA: The fact I'm on the side that it is better Ukraine continues fighting is not a good sign for you.

 

[BobTheCoward]

It's a consequence of the Civil War.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hezbollah_political_activities

Hezbollah has a lot of influence in parts of Lebanon.

Thank you

 

[Lplus]

Ones where we are wrong about conditions in Ukraine and relative costs of future lives lost versus stability now.

we would have to be very wrong about conditions in Ukraine to consider a victory, even partial, for Russia to be a guarantee of any sort of stability in the future.

It seems your question answers itself... conditions favorable to peace are the conditions where that might be the case.

Thank you for your contribution Captain Obvious

ETA: The fact I'm on the side that it is better Ukraine continues fighting is not a good sign for you.

Why not?

 

[timhau]

I think this belongs in this thread (haven't seen it anywhere else - may have missed it, I suppose).


Useful idiot Corbyn mouths off.

Sweet Jeebus.

“Pouring arms in isn’t going to bring about a solution, it’s only going to prolong and exaggerate this war,” Corbyn said. “We might be in for years and years of a war in Ukraine.”

He might be right, you know. The war can take years, but genocide would be over so much faster.