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Cont: Cancel culture IRL Part 2

d4m10n said:
Do you sincerely believe losing one's job is such a minor inconvenience that it is an appropriate sanction for telling a joke about white privilege, however badly?
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I’d take it as a positive that I found out my employer sucks ass at such an early stage in my career. Bullet dodged.
 
Dr. Keith said:
I’d take it as a positive that I found out my employer sucks ass at such an early stage in my career.
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It almost sounds like we agree about whether an employer "sucks ass" for firing people at the behest of the Twitter rage mob. There should be a phrase for this particular flavour of suckage.
 
d4m10n said:
This ground has already been covered.

Q: Is it generally good to cancel people?
A: I like unions.
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I mean, it’s probably not good to smoke a ton of pot and yet it’s being legalized more than it being banned.

“It is not generally good to react without due consideration.” That’s hardly groundbreaking philosophy.

Besides, this is the example thread. Feed us you latest example.
 
Add SFWA Grand Master Mercedes Lackey to the list...


Note, this is clearly a right wing SF review site, but when it's stuff like this:


I once found woke ideology perfectly summed up by conservative commentator Jon Gabriel: a religion with many paths to damnation, but none to redemption. No matter what trails you blaze, what ground you break, how stanch and formidable an ally for The Cause™, you will eventually face your unpersoning at the hands of the Neojacobins. Just ask SFWA’s most recently appointed Grand Master, Mercedes Lackey.

You’re never woke enough

One can hardly imagine an author that could serve as a more suitable avatar of science fiction and fantasy’s leftward arc over the past 40 years than Mercedes Lackey. The protégé of Marion Zimmer Bradley is largely credited for introducing mainstream fantasy’s first openly gay hero, Vanyel Ashkevron in 1989’s Magic’s Pawn, the first book in her The Last Herald-Mage trilogy.
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https://upstreamreviews.com/?p=4096
 
Graham2001 said:
Add SFWA Grand Master Mercedes Lackey to the list...

Note, this is clearly a right wing SF review site, but when it's stuff like this:

https://upstreamreviews.com/?p=4096
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Here's her "apology": https://mercedeslackeyblog.tumblr.com/post/685121410657566720/i-wish-to-apologize

Threatening to cancel this woman will put more people on notice that it's absolutely not OK to slip up. People who dismiss her racist aggressions want Black people dead. Hashtag activism also gives otherwise empty lives a sense of meaning and purpose. Win-win.
 
I'm having trouble untangling your layers of sarcasm. I read her comment and thought it was a good example of how to respond when one's choice of words is challenged.
 
I’m trying to imagine living a life of such oblivious privilege that I consider a podcast getting canceled to be a part of serious cultural issue. And I have to admit, I’m struggling to get there.
 
d4m10n said:
It almost sounds like we agree about whether an employer "sucks ass" for firing people at the behest of the Twitter rage mob. There should be a phrase for this particular flavour of suckage.
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Counterpoint: Perhaps when the person a company hires to oversee all their communications and represent their brand thinks it’s appropriate to workshop her edgy, race-tinged jokes on the world stage, she’s the one who “sucks ass”.
 
Dr. Keith said:
Toxic culture now counts as cancel culture?
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The cancellation of Reply All began with an online shaming campaign directed at the two founding podcasters and their producer for failing to enthusiastically support unionization at their company.
 
johnny karate said:
Counterpoint: Perhaps when the person a company hires to oversee all their communications and represent their brand thinks it’s appropriate to workshop her edgy, race-tinged jokes on the world stage, she’s the one who “sucks ass”.
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Counter-counterpoint: There is nothing wrong with mocking white people who think white privilege protects them from STIs.
 
d4m10n said:
Counter-counterpoint: There is nothing wrong with mocking white people who think white privilege protects them from STIs.
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Pretty much every HR department in the world would agree there’s something wrong with an employee whose job it is to be the voice of your company making a racially-charged joke in front of the whole world.

This isn’t even a remotely controversial opinion.

It’s been a reality for decades for anyone who has a job and isn’t a moron.
 
While many people call it 'Cancel Culture', the realitity is that it's more 'Censorship Culture', courtesy of the Spiked, a website that's just like a broken clock, here's an account of what's going on in the publishing industry.


During the first lockdown, author Anthony Horowitz released a children’s book online entitled Where Seagulls Dare – a comical detective novel aimed at pre-teens. It was a hit and is now going to be published in hard copy this week, with Horowitz giving the proceeds to charity. So far this might sound like a nice little human interest story, but then it gets weird: Horowitz says that he was asked by his publisher to do extensive rewrites of certain sections of the story and to remove jokes from the text. The publishers feared that the jokes could be ‘misconstrued in this present climate’.
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https://www.spiked-online.com/2022/05/31/literature-is-being-terrorised-by-cancel-culture/




The other interesting article I stumbled across is from the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education discussing a couple of cases where schools initiated investigative processes worthy of Soviet Russia. In one case even announcing the person under investigation was guilty the same day the investigation started.


As universities go, Princeton and the University of Central Florida may not have much in common, but they do share a mechanism for getting rid of inconvenient professors: finding a reason to investigate and fire them over something unrelated, after they’ve said something controversial.

So far, it’s working better for Princeton than for UCF. On May 23, Princeton fired tenured classics professor Joshua Katz following an investigation into a relationship with a student for which he had already been investigated, punished, and returned to campus. Katz’s second prosecution for the same alleged wrongdoing began in 2020 after an op-ed critical of campus activists led to calls for his termination.

Meanwhile, on May 16, an arbitrator ordered UCF to reinstate psychology professor Charles Negy, who was fired in January 2021 after two of his tweets were used as a justification to open a seven-month fishing expedition into his 22-year teaching history. The absence of due process was a key element of the arbitrator’s decision.
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https://www.thefire.org/a-tale-of-t...-professors-at-central-florida-and-princeton/
 
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