The Marjorie Taylor Greene thread.

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MRC_Hans said:
Since nobody seems to understand your question, it might be useful to repeat it with a bit of elaboration.

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I suspect the issue is that Shkreli had many things going on, and the fact that the hedge fund had investors does not mean the drug company did. It looks from what I've read that it did, but because all of Shkreli's drug companies were and are privately held, the details are sparse.

One of his other companies, Phoenixus, pretty definitely has other shareholders, as there was a bit of a flap when the remaining shareholders of the company tried, without success it seems, to stop him running it from prison. The NYT article is behind a paywall, but it states that he has or had 44 percent of Phoenixus shares.

It appears that Vyera Pharmaceuticals, the successor to Turing, may now be out of business, but things are very confusing, and it seems likely that it has been folded into its parent company Phoenixus. Who invested in Turing seems not to be available.
 
Matthew Best said:
I don't really understand the audience that Greene was trying to appeal to with this. Is there anyone - whether Republican or Democrat - who actually thinks Shkreli is someone to be admired? I thought it was pretty universal that he was a scumbag, who behaved abominably - and illegally. I know her main aim is to annoy liberals, but surely disdain for Shkreli crosses party lines?

Or doesn't it?
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1. She's a troll and trolls fall back on "contrarian" when they don't have anything else to do.

2. For a person like her you can tweak the Republicans and the Libs as long as you tweak the Libs more. They are fine with collateral damage, they still win in the end.
 
newyorkguy said:
From a Newsweek article, Martin Shkreli operated a hedge fund. It doesn't mention "shareholders," but Shkreli did have "investors." They were the reason he was in prison; he fleeced them.


Politicians like emptyg, Bobo and, another one discussed here recently, U.S. Senator Ron Johnson of Wisconsin, seem to operate on another wavelength. They regularly make statements that any reasonable person would recognize as being untrue. Apparently they know their main appeal is to a certain subset of voters who want to believe the nonsense they spew whether it's true or not. Another feature of politicians like Greene is, they almost never respond to criticism. They maneuver around that by always being on the attack. They're the embodiment of an old National Football League saying: The best defense is a strong offense.

Pharma bro Martin Shkreli being taken for perp walk by NYPD after his 2017 arrest.
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It's like Scientology - "Always attack, never defend."
 
bruto said:
I suspect the issue is that Shkreli had many things going on, and the fact that the hedge fund had investors does not mean the drug company did. It looks from what I've read that it did, but because all of Shkreli's drug companies were and are privately held, the details are sparse.

One of his other companies, Phoenixus, pretty definitely has other shareholders, as there was a bit of a flap when the remaining shareholders of the company tried, without success it seems, to stop him running it from prison. The NYT article is behind a paywall, but it states that he has or had 44 percent of Phoenixus shares.

It appears that Vyera Pharmaceuticals, the successor to Turing, may now be out of business, but things are very confusing, and it seems likely that it has been folded into its parent company Phoenixus. Who invested in Turing seems not to be available.
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Thanks for that. After I asked the question I had a quick google, but I couldn't figure out if Turing Pharmaceuticals was just a one-man operation or if it had shareholders. I don't really know much about American company law or structure, and am not much inclined to find out, so I appreciate you doing your best to explain it.
 
Matthew Best said:
I don't really understand the audience that Greene was trying to appeal to with this. Is there anyone - whether Republican or Democrat - who actually thinks Shkreli is someone to be admired? I thought it was pretty universal that he was a scumbag, who behaved abominably - and illegally. I know her main aim is to annoy liberals, but surely disdain for Shkreli crosses party lines?

Or doesn't it?
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Some right-wingers love him because he is almost a parody of an evil greedy businessman who triggers the libs.
 
KDLarsen said:
I'd imagine there's a fair few free-market libertarians who saw nothing nothing wrong in hiking the price of drugs, thinking the owner and manufacutrer of a product has every right to name the price of the product he/she is selling.
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The libertarian argument would be that being able to successfully sell at inflated price incentivizes more manufacturing and production, which brings the price down naturally and quickly, and it would work too, if the government stopped sticking their nose in. Of course, to that ideologically pure free market mindset any failure of the market to work in an ideal manner can only be the government's fault. Not because, you know, there's a path of hurricane devastation in the way of potential new suppliers, or something like that.
 
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gnome said:
The libertarian argument would be that being able to successfully sell at inflated price incentivizes more manufacturing and production, which brings the price down naturally and quickly, and it would work too, if the government stopped sticking their nose in. Of course, to that ideologically pure free market mindset any failure of the market to work in an ideal manner can only be the government's fault. Not because, you know, there's a path of hurricane devastation in the way of potential new suppliers, or something like that.
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LIbertarians are always wrong. If you start with that assumption it will serve you well.
 
TV reporter Rick Folbaum is a news anchor at WGCL, the CBS affiliate in Atlanta. This past week he interviewed emptyg as she campaigned in Northwest Georgia. Folbaum tried to get Greene to talk about some of the controversial statements she's made about Jewish people. This followed a report from the Anti-Defamation League "documenting a 133% rise in anti-Semitic incidents in Georgia, including in Greene’s 14th District,” Folbaum said. He asked Greene if she ever worried that some of her past statements, considered offensive by many Jewish people, could inadvertently be contributing to the problem.
“No, I am not contributing. You’re lying about me,” Greene shot back when asked the question. “You don’t even know what my words were.” CBS Atlanta news link
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When she was shown a Facebook post from 2018, in which emptyg claimed the Rothschild investment firm was using space lasers to start wildfires in California, she dismissed it as being "before she entered politics."
 

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gnome said:
The libertarian argument would be that being able to successfully sell at inflated price incentivizes more manufacturing and production, which brings the price down naturally and quickly, and it would work too, if the government stopped sticking their nose in. Of course, to that ideologically pure free market mindset any failure of the market to work in an ideal manner can only be the government's fault. Not because, you know, there's a path of hurricane devastation in the way of potential new suppliers, or something like that.
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The incentivization argument dies a-borning in the case of a drug that is patented.
 
JoeMorgue said:
Because she's a troll and everything she does is

A) For attention
B) Stupid
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Can't argue with that. I noticed how they were recording the 'visit'. I'll bet they were trying to get some kind of reaction out of her opponent to use against him. She's a real piece of work.
 
Stacyhs said:
Can't argue with that. I noticed how they were recording the 'visit'. I'll bet they were trying to get some kind of reaction out of her opponent to use against him. She's a real piece of work.
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She didn't really "visit" them. She just opened the door and stuck her nose in. Then she tried to be rude about them but it all fell flat. Turns out the only person there was nice and polite to her, and wished her a good day. So she had nothing to shout against, no controversy. It was all a total fizzer for her camera crew. No controversy at all. Summary: Professional Karen squibs badly.
 
Stacyhs said:
Or it was Antifa.

Why the four gazpacho goons?
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Looks more like Goofus and Gallant, and maybe Chet from the Hardy Boys.

Hey 2A fans...tyranny is looking you in the eye. Your country needs you! Can I say that?
 
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mgidm86 said:
Looks more like Goofus and Gallant, and maybe Chet from the Hardy Boys.

Hey 2A fans...tyranny is looking you in the eye. Your country needs you! Can I say that?
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I’ve always loved that insult and I always will.
 
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