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Cont: JFK Conspiracy Theories VIII

Given the evidence that has emerged over the last 10 years, I would say that the JFK assassination conspiracy theory is no longer a theory but a verified fact. I would say the say same thing about the RFK assassination. In the case of RFK's death, we have hard audio evidence that more bullets were fired in the pantry than Sirhan's gun could have fired.

Given that there has been no new evidence whatsoever, just rehashing old old, debunked claims by Johnny-Come-Latelies, and diehard JFK-CT burnouts.

Plus, a "verified fact" would include things like:

Physical Evidence
Records and Documents

There are none of these.

And then throwing RFK into the mix indicates a lack of concentration. It is a second incident which took place five years later in a different state, and has nothing to do with this topic. Combining the two plays into the Kennedy Mythos BS.
 
Given the evidence that has emerged over the last 10 years, I would say that the JFK assassination conspiracy theory is no longer a theory but a verified fact. I would say the say same thing about the RFK assassination. In the case of RFK's death, we have hard audio evidence that more bullets were fired in the pantry than Sirhan's gun could have fired.

This post does indicate you lack proper research skills. Nothing new has emerged.
 
Given the evidence that has emerged over the last 10 years, I would say that the JFK assassination conspiracy theory is no longer a theory but a verified fact. I would say the say same thing about the RFK assassination. In the case of RFK's death, we have hard audio evidence that more bullets were fired in the pantry than Sirhan's gun could have fired.

Can I suggest you read this thread first? It will give you an idea of the depth of evidence and analysis that has gone into determining Oswald's guilt. Blithe assertions of new evidence, without actually presenting that evidence, are never going to work here.
 
Given the evidence that has emerged over the last 10 years, I would say that the JFK assassination conspiracy theory is no longer a theory but a verified fact. I would say the say same thing about the RFK assassination. In the case of RFK's death, we have hard audio evidence that more bullets were fired in the pantry than Sirhan's gun could have fired.

This post does indicate you lack proper research skills. Nothing new has emerged.

Indeed, and in fact the only "new" evidence that has emerged is in the form of declassified documents, and they have served only to cast more doubt on the idea of a conspiracy than there already was.

The JFK assassination is no mystery to those who pay attention to facts and evidence. President Kennedy was assassinated by Lee Harvey Oswald, a pathetic nobody, a man who was no more than average shooter, acting alone, who got off a couple of lucky shots at a sitting-duck target.
 
Indeed, and in fact the only "new" evidence that has emerged is in the form of declassified documents, and they have served only to cast more doubt on the idea of a conspiracy than there already was.

The JFK assassination is no mystery to those who pay attention to facts and evidence. President Kennedy was assassinated by Lee Harvey Oswald, a pathetic nobody, a man who was no more than average shooter, acting alone, who got off a couple of lucky shots at a sitting-duck target.

I haven’t even seen much fake evidence produced in the past 10 years. Time was there was almost an industry that made stuff for buffs to crow over for a year or two until it was shown to be obviously faked. It would produce something like clockwork for ages. But I think that cow has been milked, and nobody is going to make bank with new fake evidence on a 60+ year old assassination.
 
I am surprised this one still has any legs. I mean after 9/11 and the New World Order and the entire descent of ~40% of the population into a complete post-fact world view the whole Kennedy thing seems almost quaint.
 
Someone was building up their post-count. I doubt we'll see anything as he posted short comments on many threads.
He has nearly 400 posts already? Presumably one of the mods found his old account and had them merged :confused:
 
He has nearly 400 posts already? Presumably one of the mods found his old account and had them merged :confused:

Yup. He’s been here. Not too hard to figure out who he was if you look at his merged posts and se the name in the replies.
 
While the majority of people (particularly if they've actually made some enquiry) don't believe the CIA's lies and its preposterous Oswald whitewash/cover story (and haven't for decades), it's not a matter of holding "fervent beliefs", the feeling has long since become one of resignation and even despondency.

If you people want to see a "true believer", look in the mirror.
 
While the majority of people (particularly if they've actually made some enquiry) don't believe the CIA's lies and its preposterous Oswald whitewash/cover story (and haven't for decades), it's not a matter of holding "fervent beliefs", the feeling has long since become one of resignation and even despondency.

If you people want to see a "true believer", look in the mirror.

The documents show no lies from the CIA. The documents show the CIA's Mexico City station sent a memo to Langley suggesting they warn the FBI about Oswald, and his visit to the Soviet embassy, and that warning was never passed along.

The only people telling lies about Oswald are conspiracy loons selling books to sad, directionless people. As a reformed JFK-CT nutjob myself, the only thing you have to be despondent about is being suckered into a fantasy world of cover-ups, spies, mobsters, and hitmen. It's okay to be despondent over letting yourself be fooled by conmen.

The great thing about being liberated from the CT world is now that my head is out of my butt, roses smell much better.

Also, the majority of people today don't know know any of the facts about the JFK assassination, and this has been true since the mid-1970s when CTists dominated the landscape. The majority of people can't tell you how their smart phone works, either.
 
Resignation? Despondency? Aw heck, nobody feels down about that old story. If all the beliefs about JFK were true,* no one would or could give a flying ****. Hope you don't mind my language.


* An existential impossibility, of course. Not that believers' heads can't contain them all. But there's always plenty of room inside those deserted vaults.
 
While the majority of people

Citation needed.

(particularly if they've actually made some enquiry) don't believe the CIA's lies

Citation needed.

and its preposterous Oswald whitewash/cover story

Citation needed.

(and haven't for decades),

Citation needed.

it's not a matter of holding "fervent beliefs", the feeling has long since become one of resignation and even despondency.

Citation needed.

Oh, and where did the quote of "fervent beliefs" come from?
Yeah, citation needed on people holding "fervent beliefs" about the guilt of LHO too.
 
I love the idea that people looked at the real evidence and decided the government was lying. Few people have read the abridged Warren Commission Report, and fewer still have read the whole thing. They assume that JFK-CT mongers have read the whole thing, and know what they're talking about. But most have not, and tend to quote other CTists who've not read it either. It's a sad game of telephone.

Now most all of the documents are available online:

https://www.archives.gov/research/jfk

Many of these memos were not available to the Warren Commission in 1964 for national security reasons surrounding JFK's operations against Castro (Mongoose, JMWAVE, etc). I've read almost fifteen hundred of these records, most are one page updates, and short status briefs, but all paint a picture of the US intelligence and FBI mindset of the Cold War in the early 1960s. We see a CIA spread thin across the globe, with not enough officers to cover Mexico and Central America, and not enough resources compared to their stations in Europe. We see an FBI run by a man who saw Communists everywhere except where the Soviets and Cubans actually had moles.

Against this Cold War backdrop, Lee Oswald got lucky, and hit two of his three shots. Next, he shot a cop, and almost shot a second one during his capture. His background as a Soviet defector made him a sock-puppet for Mark Lane and other CTists. In 59 years, nobody has been able to link him to the CIA, FBI, or Castro. Sure, we've got death-bed confessions from different people claiming he worked for the Mafia's CIA connection, or just the CIA, or just the New Orleans mob. No two death-bed confessions are the same. No consistent primary suspect(s), either. Some claim LBJ, others claim Hunt Oil, or Castro, or the Chicago Mob, or CIA-linked anti-Castro Cubans.

At some point you'd think people would notice that all the JFK-CTs contradict each other. But no.

What hasn't changed? The facts.

And while in 1963, a lone fame-hungry loser with a rifle was so shocking few could believe he acted alone, in 2022 most people would be relieved he was only armed with a bolt-action rifle. In 2022, a lone dork shooting up a school, or a shopping center, or a Waffle House doesn't stay at the top of the news feed longer than three days. Unlike in 1963, it's well known what one person can do with a gun.

If you want to feel bad about something, feel bad about obscuring the truth about Oswald acting alone. By adding other gunmen, you let him off the hook, and allowed Charles Whitman to up the death toll two years later in the same state. By running wild with tales of French hitmen, or mafia pros from Toronto this allowed America to avoid having a serious discussion about guns, and this led the RFK getting shot only to be obscured by his own CT.

Wouldn't a better CT be that the NRA is behind the JFK and RFK CTs instead?
Just asking questions.
 
While the majority of people (particularly if they've actually made some enquiry) don't believe the CIA's lies and its preposterous Oswald whitewash/cover story (and haven't for decades), it's not a matter of holding "fervent beliefs", the feeling has long since become one of resignation and even despondency.

If you people want to see a "true believer", look in the mirror.

Yes I see a true believer, one who believes that Oswald was no patsy, just a loner who wanted to be famous. He took those beliefs to the maximum by shooting JFK without any conspiratorial help, yes tha is a true believer.
 

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