Cont: The Biden Presidency (3)

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I do get nervous at the thought of a transgender assignment for someone below some reasonable level of pubertal development. Maybe this is for another thread.
 
Venom said:
I do get nervous at the thought of a transgender assignment for someone below some reasonable level of pubertal development. Maybe this is for another thread.
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Unfortunately this is a political hot-button, now. When the administration is pushing it so hard, you have to look at the message and the possible ramifications for such policy. We all knew where this was headed when Biden nominated Levine.

So, lets see if this ends up helping or hurting Biden in the polls. I can see Republicans having a field day with it.
 
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Warp12 said:
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Another feather in Biden's cap, no doubt. I wonder how this will impact things come November?
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Why don't you tell us what you think Biden, or any President, can do to combat inflation, especially in our current unique post-pandemic circumstances?
 
Bob001 said:
Why don't you tell us what you think Biden, or any President, can do to combat inflation, especially in our current unique post-pandemic circumstances?
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That doesn't matter. Tell it to the voters. :)
 
Warp12 said:
Unfortunately this is a political hot-button, now. When the administration is pushing it so hard, you have to look at the message and the possible ramifications for such policy. We all knew where this was headed when Biden nominated Levine.

So, lets see if this ends up helping or hurting Biden in the polls. I can see Republicans having a field day with it.
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The Biden administration is not pushing this hard. It is responding to the people who are pushing it hard, like the Texas governor, who want to lock up parents who seek medical care for their possibly transgender children.
 
Bob001 said:
The Biden administration is not pushing this hard. It is responding to the people who are pushing it hard, like the Texas governor, who want to lock up parents who seek medical care for their possibly transgender children.
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This is reminding me of something - 1) Russia actively works to corrupt Ukrainian government and politics. 2) US and much of the rest of Europe acts to counter and uproot corruption once they finally can. 3) Russia and Russia's puppets in the US accuse the people actively working to fight corruption of corruption based on the fact that they're involved with corruption at all.

In this case - 1) The GOP is actively working to harm the US based on unscientific nonsense that's been demonstrated to be harmful. 2) Biden and the Democrats are trying to counter the harm by affirming science and truth. 3) The GOP is accusing Biden and the Democrats of horrors and also of pushing the issue hard based on Biden and the Democrats affirming science and truth.
 
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Warp12 said:
That doesn't matter. Tell it to the voters. :)
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Too bad that it wouldn't matter to a heck of a lot of them. Inflation is largely an excuse, rather than a driver, and actually doing something about it, like adopting price controls to limit the blatant profiteering that's driving quite a sizable portion of the inflation, is something that's highly unlikely to happen - in fair part because of the GOP.
 
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Aridas said:
This is reminding me of something - 1) Russia actively works to corrupt Ukrainian government and politics. 2) US and much of the rest of Europe acts to counter and uproot corruption once they finally can. 3) Russia and Russia's puppets in the US accuse the people actively working to fight corruption of corruption based on the fact that they're involved with corruption at all.

In this case - 1) The GOP is actively working to harm the US based on unscientific nonsense that's been demonstrated to be harmful. 2) Biden and the Democrats are trying to counter the harm by affirming science and truth. 3) The GOP is accusing Biden and the Democrats of horrors and also of pushing the issue hard based on Biden and the Democrats affirming science and truth.
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That sums it up nicely.
 
Venom said:
I do get nervous at the thought of a transgender assignment for someone below some reasonable level of pubertal development. Maybe this is for another thread.
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From Politifact:

• Professional medical organizations recommend against puberty blockers for children who have not reached puberty, which typically begins between ages 10 and 12.

• Hormone treatment for feminization or masculinization of the body is typically not considered until patients are at least 16 years old.

• Gender reassignment surgery is typically only available to those 18 and older in the United States.
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All this crap coming from the right-wing scare mongers is just that: crap. So business as usual.
 
dudalb said:
The virtual meeting between Biden and XI has started.
Biden cannot afford to be seen as weak. He needs to lay down, calmly but firmly, exact what the consquences will be if Xi supports Putin. And there is plenty the US can do do hurt China ecnomically.
XI can be freinds with the US and Europe, or he can be friends with Putinl He can't have both.
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Too late. After Joke Biden botched the Afghanistan withdrawal, Putin moved his troops to the Ukraine border a few months after. Of course having the Taliban push Joke Biden around probably encouraged Putin to get aggressive.

You guys can pound on Trump all you want but there was peace under Trump and his energy policy had the US gas prices very stable and reasonable.\

Joke Biden changed all of that on his first day in office.
 
Transgender medical procedures and their availability have never been something I've thought of investigating much, but my immediate thought on those three points is that they would have been pretty distressing if I had wanted to be female (and were young enough for the age question to be applicable). By the time I was 16, I was thoroughly stocky & dense. People asked me why I didn't play football, and presumed I was weightlifting although I wasn't, and so on. That's already too late to do a transition and end up anything like a cis-woman; the result would have just been a classic example of those unsuccessful transitions that just end up looking like cross-dressing men. There's just no way to be able to count on getting the right results without starting the transition sooner than that or at least blocking to buy some time... which of course means being able to even make that decision that young...
 
Joecool said:
Too late. After Joke Biden botched the Afghanistan withdrawal, Putin moved his troops to the Ukraine border a few months after. Of course having the Taliban push Joke Biden around probably encouraged Putin to get aggressive.

You guys can pound on Trump all you want but there was peace under Trump and his energy policy had the US gas prices very stable and reasonable.\

Joke Biden changed all of that on his first day in office.
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Ahh, the joys of faith goggles.
 
Joecool said:
No actual facts to dispel anything. LOL
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What would be the point? You're pretty clearly showing that you're not actually interested in facts and would actively resist being swayed by them.

For example, "There was peace under Trump" is a half-assed truth, at best. The Russia/Ukraine relationship is NOT dependent on the US. Still, it is possible that Putin would have continued to delay invading Ukraine for a bit longer had Trump remained in office - specifically with the expectation of Trump either getting the US out of NATO or breaking NATO entirely, which would remove the main obstacle in Putin's path to trying to conquer a whole bunch more. As it was, Trump just kept ending the treaties that restrained Russia's aggression. Just as likely, though, Putin would have invaded when he did anyways, on the day that Ukraine was disconnecting from Russia's power grid. Trump? Trump would have been just as likely to use US military intelligence to AID Russia, given his track record. He definitely would have been using his bully pulpit to excuse and try to give cover to Putin, again, given his track record of doing exactly that. As for Trump's energy policy, that's opening up another whole can of rotten worms. Trump repeatedly and actively sought to raise energy prices for consumers, for example, by trying to demand that coal be used even if it was wildly more expensive. He repeatedly worked to drive the price of oil up in a bunch of ways. That "he" had limited overall effect was not for lack of trying. Compare him to Biden? Biden's been dealt a crap hand in comparison. You want to harp on, for example, Keystone XL Pipeline? That would have done NOTHING for our energy prices. We don't use the products that it would have been used for in the first place!
 
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Joecool said:
No actual facts to dispel anything. LOL
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Trump's Peace deal,with the Taliban was a disaster like Neville Chamberlin and Hitler. Trump negotiations from a weak position ment the people of Afghanistan didn't respect or fight for the Afgan Government against the Taliban. The Afghans knew Trump sold them out just like he did the Kurds a year or so earlier. But again that's why Putin had Trump Installed into the White House in 2016!
 
Aridas said:
What would be the point? You're pretty clearly showing that you're not actually interested in facts and would actively resist being swayed by them.

For example, "There was peace under Trump" is a half-assed truth, at best. The Russia/Ukraine relationship is NOT dependent on the US. Still, it is possible that Putin would have continued to delay invading Ukraine for a bit longer had Trump remained in office - specifically with the expectation of Trump either getting the US out of NATO or breaking NATO entirely, which would remove the main obstacle in Putin's path to trying to conquer a whole bunch more. As it was, Trump just kept ending the treaties that restrained Russia's aggression. Just as likely, though, Putin would have invaded when he did anyways, on the day that Ukraine was disconnecting from Russia's power grid. Trump? Trump would have been just as likely to use US military intelligence to AID Russia, given his track record. He definitely would have been using his bully pulpit to excuse and try to give cover to Putin, again, given his track record of doing exactly that. As for Trump's energy policy, that's opening up another whole can of rotten worms. Trump repeatedly and actively sought to raise energy prices for consumers, for example, by trying to demand that coal be used even if it was wildly more expensive. He repeatedly worked to drive the price of oil up in a bunch of ways. That "he" had limited overall effect was not for lack of trying. Compare him to Biden? Biden's been dealt a crap hand in comparison. You want to harp on, for example, Keystone XL Pipeline? That would have done NOTHING for our energy prices. We don't use the products that it would have been used for in the first place!
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Trump was installed by Putin, he wouldn't have moved against Ukraine as long as his Useful idiot was in the White House.
 
Crazy Chainsaw said:
Trump was installed by Putin, he wouldn't have moved against Ukraine as long as his Useful idiot was in the White House.
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That's very far from certain. As long as Putin could look forward to Trump doing notable things to pave Putin's way for future invasion, that's an understandable stance, though. However, there's only so much more that Trump could do on that front.
 
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Aridas said:
That's very far from certain. As long as Putin could look forward to Trump doing notable things to pave Putin's way for future invasion, that's an understandable stance, though. However, there's only so much more that Trump could do on that front.
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Putin was going to try to get Trump to arrange a peace deal in the Donbass Region, so that putin would gain access to Crimea via a land bridge, in return Ukraine would be granted Natural gas and other cookies from Russia, as long as they didn't enter NATO.
When Biden Won that was now Impossible, so Putin Invaded Trying to take by Force what his Puppet could no longer do.
 
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