Merged The Qur'an corrects the mistakes of the false Injil/Torah

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Emre_1974tr said:
The Qur'an describes the true state of this event.

The life of Jesus was changed by people after him and turned into tales and legends. The life story of the prophet Muhammad was made into a fairy tale by people by distorting and making additions.

But the word of God, the Qur'an, describes the true state of these events. Quran telling real life stories of prophets.

You think that whatever your clergy tell you is wrong, you think it is wrong, and whatever they tell you is right, you think it is right. It doesn't matter if the experts make you accept what is a fairy tale and what is real.


In short, all the Gospels, you have are fairy tale books, human-written hadiths. But there are some truths in these fairy tale books, in these hadith books. Even some folk legends hold some truth.

This incident of Jesus is true(bird clay).

Also, Jesus lived in a much older age than you have been told.


And;

Joshua was Jesus

Jesus is the nephew of Moses and he has come to earth much earlier than you think.

The Yusha/Joshua mentioned in the False Torah(hadith book) is actually Isa/Jesus.

I showed this in my Turkish article:

http://emre1974tr.blogspot.com/2018/03/isa-peygamber-musa-ve-harun.html


I said that Jesus/Joshua is the nephew of Moses and he lived in much older times than your think. And he was born in Ancient Egypt..

The pharaohons had a culture of cross-hands and feet. (and cutting theme with X shape/crosswise).

The stories of Osiris and Horus were inspired by the life of Jesus. Because Jesus lived in an age before.

Unfortunately, people always do what they do. They paganized the life story of the Prophet. Christianity was also created based on this story after centuries.
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And his real name is Isa/Joshua
 
Emre_1974tr said:
But the word of God, the Qur'an, describes the true state of these events. Quran telling real life stories of prophets.
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Trash, utter trash ! The Quran is direct plagiarism from the bible, and it claims the story of Jonah being swallowed by a big fish and spat up on a shore is true.
Also Noah's ark, and the pharaohs army drowning in the red sea.

Bunk that is obvious fiction, for example no fish exists that could swallow a man except the sperm whale, and no man could live in the stomach of a sperm whale.
 
Scorpion said:
Bunk that is obvious fiction, for example no fish exists that could swallow a man except the sperm whale, and no man could live in the stomach of a sperm whale.
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Stop pretending you're not a Christian :)

You know very well that all of these events happened, they are all real.
 
Emre_1974tr said:
Stop pretending you're not a Christian :)

You know very well that all of these events happened, they are all real.
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If I am anything it its a spiritualist, not a Christian.

I believe these events are myths designed to promote the Jewish tribe.
 
Norman Alexander said:
Ants don't have ears. They can't hear.
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Insects don't need ears. They have sound sensors in their legs. With those they can hear just fine.

Imagine you and your friends were blindfolded and used walking sticks to find each other in the dark by waving them about. Sometimes the sticks hit each other and make noises. But you can feel the other sticks when that happens. So you know roughly where your friends are. That is all the "talking" the ants are doing.
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A better analogy would be in you and your friends carry washboards on their chests and make noise by rubbing their walking sticks against them, and you know roughly where your friends are by listening to that noise.

Of course the discovery that insects can communicate by sound is not exactly proof of a miracle. We already knew that from for example crickets.
 
Earthborn said:
Insects don't need ears. They have sound sensors in their legs. With those they can hear just fine.

A better analogy would be in you and your friends carry washboards on their chests and make noise by rubbing their walking sticks against them, and you know roughly where your friends are by listening to that noise.

Of course the discovery that insects can communicate by sound is not exactly proof of a miracle. We already knew that from for example crickets.
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They also have a phenomenal sense of smell:
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FROM: https://news.vanderbilt.edu/2012/09/10/ants-have-an-exceptionally-high-def-sense-of-smell/

Ants have an exceptionally high-def sense of smell

Ants have four to five times more odor receptors than most other insects, a team of researchers has discovered.

The research team, led by Lawrence Zwiebel at Vanderbilt, recently completed the first full map of olfactory system that provides ants with their sense of taste and smell. They found the industrious insects have genes that make about 400 distinct odorant receptors, special proteins that detect different odors. By comparison, silk moths have 52, fruit flies have 61, mosquitoes range from 74 to 158 and the honeybee has 174.

“The most exciting moment for me was when the analysis came back showing that we had identified more than 400 OR genes, the largest number of any known insect species,” said Xiaofan Zhou, the research associate who headed up the characterization process. “It meant that we had successfully taken the first step toward gaining a new level of understanding of the complex social system that has made ants one of the most successful families on the planet.”

People have long been intrigued and inspired by ants’ ability to form highly organized colonies with division of labor, communication between individuals and ability to solve complex problems. For some time, scientists have also known that chemical communication plays an important role in ant behavior. “So it’s a reasonable supposition that this dramatic expansion in odor-sensing capability is what allowed ants to develop such a high level of social organization,” said Laurence Zwiebel, professor of biological sciences, who directed the new study that was published in the Aug. 30 issue of the journal PLoS Genetics.

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Scorpion said:
The following is the text from the works of Josephus that describes Jesus and mentions the crucifixion.
It is considered to be a falsification inserted by the early Christians. Obviously a hand written text could be fixed by scribes at any time in the approximately 1500 years the manuscript existed before printing was invented.
But that is no reason not to give it consideration.
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Yes there is. It's false. You said so yourself.

Scorpion said:
From the annals of the Roman historian Tacitus. Annal 15:44

15.44.2. But, despite kindly influence, despite the leader's generous handouts, despite appeasing the gods, the scandal did not subside, rather the blaze came to be believed to be an official act. So, in order to quash the rumour, Nero blamed it on, and applied the cruellest punishments to, those sinners, whom ordinary people call Christians, hating them for their shameful behaviour.
15.44.3. The originator of this name, Christ, was sentenced to torture by Procurator Pontius Pilate, during the reign of Tiberius, but although checked for a moment, the deadly cult erupted again, not just in Judaea, the source of its evil, but even in Rome, where all the sins and scandals of the world gather and are glorified.
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Tacitus reporting what Christians believe is not evidence that what they believe is true.

Scorpion said:
Pliny the Younger
Pliny was the governor of the Roman province of Bithynia, in present-day Turkey. In about 112 AD, he wrote (in Epistles X.96) to the emperor Trajan, asking for advice on how to deal with the Christians in his province, because he was executing so many of them. Pliny wrote:

'They were in the habit of meeting before dawn on a fixed day. They would recite in alternate verse a hymn to Christ as to a God, and would bind themselves by a solemn oath, not to do any criminal act, but rather that they would not commit any fraud, theft or adultery, nor betray any trust nor refuse to restore a deposit on demand. This done, they would disperse, and then they would meet again later to eat together (but the food was quite ordinary and harmless.)
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No-one doubts that Christians exist. That doesn't mean Jesus existed.

There are literally no contemporary records that mention Jesus, nor any of the events that supposedly occurred in the fable of his life.
You'd think a three-day zombie invasion of Jerusalem would have merited a mention somewhere, for instance.
 
Scorpion said:
The following is the text from the works of Josephus that describes Jesus and mentions the crucifixion.
It is considered to be a falsification inserted by the early Christians. Obviously a hand written text could be fixed by scribes at any time in the approximately 1500 years the manuscript existed before printing was invented.
But that is no reason not to give it consideration.

The following text is from Flavius Josephus (c37-100AD)
The Antiquities of the Jews. Book 18.3.3

Now there was about this time, Jesus, a wise man, if it be lawful to call him a man, for he was a doer of wonderful works,- a teacher of such men as receive the truth with pleasure. He drew over to him both many of the Jews, and many of the Gentiles. He was the Christ; and when Pilate, at the suggestion of the principle men among us, had condemned him to the cross, those that loved him at the first did not forsake him, for he appeared to them alive again on the third day, as the divine prophets had foretold these and ten thousand other wonderful things concerning him; and the tribe of Christians, so named from him, are not extinct at this day.

From the annals of the Roman historian Tacitus. Annal 15:44

15.44.2. But, despite kindly influence, despite the leader's generous handouts, despite appeasing the gods, the scandal did not subside, rather the blaze came to be believed to be an official act. So, in order to quash the rumour, Nero blamed it on, and applied the cruellest punishments to, those sinners, whom ordinary people call Christians, hating them for their shameful behaviour.
15.44.3. The originator of this name, Christ, was sentenced to torture by Procurator Pontius Pilate, during the reign of Tiberius, but although checked for a moment, the deadly cult erupted again, not just in Judaea, the source of its evil, but even in Rome, where all the sins and scandals of the world gather and are glorified.

Pliny the Younger
Pliny was the governor of the Roman province of Bithynia, in present-day Turkey. In about 112 AD, he wrote (in Epistles X.96) to the emperor Trajan, asking for advice on how to deal with the Christians in his province, because he was executing so many of them. Pliny wrote:

'They were in the habit of meeting before dawn on a fixed day. They would recite in alternate verse a hymn to Christ as to a God, and would bind themselves by a solemn oath, not to do any criminal act, but rather that they would not commit any fraud, theft or adultery, nor betray any trust nor refuse to restore a deposit on demand. This done, they would disperse, and then they would meet again later to eat together (but the food was quite ordinary and harmless.)
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You know the Josephus extract was inserted later right?
 
Emre, you claim the Quran is from God, right? So the Quran should have no errors.

Here are two errors for you.

Quran 16.69 says bees eat fruit. But they don't, they eat pollen and nectar.

Quran 86.7 says sperm comes from between the backbone and the ribs, but it comes from the testicles.
 
Scorpion said:
Emre, you claim the Quran is from God, right? So the Quran should have no errors.

Here are two errors for you.

Quran 16.69 says bees eat fruit. But they don't, they eat pollen and nectar.

Quran 86.7 says sperm comes from between the backbone and the ribs, but it comes from the testicles.
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Do they?

ETA: yes, apparantly some do. My bad, carry on. :blush:
 
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Scorpion said:
Emre, you claim the Quran is from God, right? So the Quran should have no errors.



Quran 16.69 says bees eat fruit. But they don't, they eat pollen and nectar.

Quran 86.7 says sperm comes from between the backbone and the ribs, but it comes from the testicles.
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1- Holy Quran 16:68-69

And your Lord (Allah) revealed to the bees: Build your hives in mountains, trees and in what they build. Then eat (for females) from every fruit and follow (for females) your Lord's enslaved paths, from its bellies (بُطُونِهَا) exits drink of different colors, in it healing for man. These are signs for those who contemplate.

٦٨ وَأَوْحَىٰ رَبُّكَ إِلَى النَّحْلِ أَنِ اتَّخِذِي مِنَ الْجِبَالِ بُيُوتًا وَمِنَ الشَّجَرِ وَمِمَّا يَعْرِشُونَ

٦٩ ثُمَّ كُلِي مِنْ كُلِّ الثَّمَرَاتِ فَاسْلُكِي سُبُلَ رَبِّكِ ذُلُلًا ۚ يَخْرُجُ مِنْ بُطُونِهَا شَرَابٌ مُخْتَلِفٌ أَلْوَانُهُ فِيهِ شِفَاءٌ لِلنَّاسِ ۗ إِنَّ فِي ذَٰلِكَ لَآيَةً لِقَوْمٍ يَتَفَكَّرُونَ

- For the word "eat": "Kuli" is for females; "Kul" is for males. The Quran used "Kuli" (females).

- For the word "follow a path": "Usluki" is for females; "Usluk" is for males. The Quran used "Usluki" (females).

- For the word "its bellies": "butuniha" is for females; "butunihim" is for males. The Quran used "butuniha" (females).
Butuniha بُطُونِهَا in Arabic means multiple stomachs of a single female. Today we know that a honey bee has an extra stomach dedicated for honey.
Worker bees are all females .

This fact, which science has just discovered, is emphasized in the Qur'an.
https://www.miracles-of-quran.com/honey_bees.html

The Arabic origin of the word, which is mentioned in the 69th verse of the chapter of Nahl and which is translated as "fruit" in the translations, is "samara". This word is the plural of the word “SEMER”. Saddle means any product that grows from trees and plants and includes fruits. (See Raghib, al-Mufredat li Elfazi'l-Kur'an, S-M-R art.)

In the words of the verse, he collects "honey raw material called nectar and flower dust" from all kinds of nutritious products and uses them both for his own consumption and for making honey and beeswax. Meanwhile, it does a greater job of pollinating fruits, vegetables, and crops than all other insects combined.

Also, honey bees eat fruit: https://www.honeybeesuite.com/do-ho...t=The short answer is,apples, figs, and pears.

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2- Wrong translation. There is no testis/testicles expression there.

True translation: 86:7 From between the spine and the viscera., or 86:7 issuing from between the loins and the pelvic arch [of woman].

This verse about woman body (as "pelvic arch", has also the meaning of "ribs" or "arch of bones"; according to most of the authorities who have specialized in the etymology of rare Quranic expressions this term relates specifically to female anatomy (Taj al-'Arus).

86:6 He was created from water that spurts forth.
86:7 issuing from between the loins and the pelvic arch [of woman]./86:7 From between the spine and the viscera
86:8 For He is able to bring him back.

In other words, the event in this verse is not the male body, but the event that develops in the female body.

And there are 2 options here.

1- When we read these three verses in their entirety, God talking about the human being who comes out of the female body, that is, born.

or

2- Mention of fluid in the female body(Amniotic Fluid):

https://www.miracles-of-quran.com/amniotic_fluid.html
 
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Again, the Quran is a poorly written self insert fanfiction. It's drivel. That it happens to get a few things correct that people were already widely aware of is meaningless. It's junk.
 
Emre_1974tr said:
1- Holy Quran 16:68-69
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I laugh at your quoting the stupid book as though it meant anything.

There is nothing "Holy" about the quran. It's the mere rantings of a tinpot despot desparate to bolster his power.

If you had actual evidence, you would have presented it already. But you have not. Because you cannot.

Watching you flail is quite amusing.
 
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