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Lurch said:
The kind of 'militias' the prepper movement puts together, to take a modern case. The militias of the time, being "well regulated" and an important adjunct to a Continental Army, would be presumed to be supportive of and loyal to the Republic. Any rabble who might raise arms against Her, or in numbers refuse their legal obligations such as paying taxes, could be the sort the then "well regulated militia" would be arrayed against.

While the Founders could envisage the eventuality for such as today's traitorous GOP to be **** out of the bowels of the nation's deplorables, and potentially needing a corrective administered by patriotic Americans, surely this could not be the sole purpose of an armed, "well regulated militia". Such a narrow remit of action against the State only would imply the 2A to be almost a suicide clause.
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Historically the Miltias were not very well organized and tended to be useless on the battlefield without a lot of training by the Regulars. Huge problem in the early days of the Civil war for both sides.
 
Resume said:
I always thought Jesus was kind of a dick, but Jesus Christ, now he's gunning babies!
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Warp12 said:
The concept of resistance to tyranny has always been part of the 2A landscape. Like...since the beginning.
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Regnad Kcin said:
Well, noooo.
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We've already gone through this upthread.

If the Second Amendment wasn't intended to arm the people against tyrants (e.g. George IIIWP of England and Charles III of SpainWP) what was it intended to do?
 
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d4m10n said:
We've already gone through this upthread.

If the Second Amendment wasn't intended to arm the people against tyrants (e.g. George IIIWP of England and Charles III of SpainWP) what was it intended to do?
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To secure a free State by the use of well regulated militias? As in putting down internal rebellions like the Whiskey and Fries's Rebelllions against the government?

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
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Stacyhs said:
As in putting down internal rebellions like the Whiskey and Fries's Rebelllions against the government?
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What evidence can be adduced that the authors had rebellions rather than despots in mind?

Britannica seems to think that the idea was to "provide for the defense of the nation, to provide a well-trained and disciplined force to check federal tyranny, and to bring constitutional balance by distributing the power of the sword equally among the people, the states, and the federal government."
 
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d4m10n said:
We've already gone through this upthread.

If the Second Amendment wasn't intended to arm the people against tyrants (e.g. George IIIWP of England and Charles III of SpainWP) what was it intended to do?
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d4m10n said:
What evidence can be adduced that the authors had rebellions rather than despots in mind?

Britannica seems to think that the idea was to "provide for the defense of the nation, to provide a well-trained and disciplined force to check federal tyranny, and to bring constitutional balance by distributing the power of the sword equally among the people, the states, and the federal government."
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I did not say that they did not include foreign threats. I did not say it was one or the other. You limited it to foreign 'tyrants" like George III and Charles III and asked "what was it intended to do?" I expanded it to include internal rebellions and other internal threats. Or do you think militias were only meant to confront foreign threats?
 
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