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Cont: Corona Virus Conspiracy Theories Part IV

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Resume said:
I'll ask this again: Are you talking about the German virologist Christian Drosten[/I]?]
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Of course. We like to call him Dr. Osten (Doctor East) because he is so much a tool of neo-communism. He is one of the handful of people indicted by name in that public court whose opening statements I have posted.
 
Childlike Empress said:
Of course. We like to call him Dr. Osten (Doctor East) because he is so much a tool of neo-communism. He is one of the handful of people indicted by name in that public court whose opening statements I have posted.
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You mean your fake court?
 
Childlike Empress said:
I don't know where you got this "quote" from but in tendency, the more rare a "disease" is in the population, the more false positives the PCR test will produce, especially when run with a CT-Value of 45 like the original Dr.Osten one did. You can always manipulate these values, as there is next to no transparency, and I for one think that this is what is happening now with the sky-rocketing "incidences" for the moronic ("omicron", just sort the letters) variant.
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It came at about 48 minutes in the video link you posted. Did you watch it or just post it?

As for cases, they are greatly underreported right now in the States and UK. In California and most states if you get positive home test you can report it to the local heath depts. but it isn't counted as a case. Only PCRs get counted here.

But that also indicates that Omicron is considerably less virulent than earlier variants. Much closer to flu virulence. Much less than flu for the vaccinated.
 
marting said:
It came at about 48 minutes in the video link you posted. Did you watch it or just post it?
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I watched it and just again the time stamp you are referring. At 48 minutes it is Wodarg in philosophical contemplations, nothing about the PCR test at all.

Again, Wodarg is on the side of "Viruses exists", show me where he is right while Lanka is wrong. If you care about the issue, do it now because my actions in this field are not uninfluential.
 
Childlike Empress said:
Of course. We like to call him Dr. Osten (Doctor East) because he is so much a tool of neo-communism. He is one of the handful of people indicted by name in that public court whose opening statements I have posted.
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Of course? You think that readers are following your infantile re-naming by virtue of having watched some lengthy, unhinged youtube you previously posted?? Wtf.
 
Childlike Empress said:
The court will be instrumental in givng us, humanity, back the rights we have fought for in multiple decades, but which are taken from us by a tiny minority we allowed to rule over us. You included, but also me included.
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Are these poor, benighted fools paid by Russia or just useful idiots? This is almost as bad as distributing smallpox blankets. You should be ashamed to push such destructive BS.
 
Resume said:
Agressive in pointing out the reality that it's a fake court?
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It is exactly what I advertised it to be. In a time of society totally corrupted by money and power (and "kompromat"), there are no other "real" courts than this one lead by real people. Not fake at all, and it will succeed.
 
Childlike Empress said:
I watched it and just again the time stamp you are referring. At 48 minutes it is Wodarg in philosophical contemplations, nothing about the PCR test at all.

Again, Wodarg is on the side of "Viruses exists", show me where he is right while Lanka is wrong. If you care about the issue, do it now because my actions in this field are not uninfluential.
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Maybe the wrong video.

Ana Garner starting at exactly 48:08 in the "Grand Jury" video. Goes on for several minutes ranting about PCR tests.
 
varwoche said:
Of course? You think that readers are following your infantile re-naming by virtue of having watched some lengthy, unhinged youtube you previously posted?? Wtf.
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I think that people who think they should share their thoughts with the internet on this topic should be familar with Dr. Osten. Yes, I do. He is at the very beginning of this global hoax. As you obviously have no clue about that as well, look it up. The PCR test. His work. A few months after Kary Mullis, its inventor, died.
 
Childlike Empress said:
It is exactly what I advertised it to be. In a time of society totally corrupted by money and power (and "kompromat"), there are no other "real" courts than this one lead by real people. Not fake at all, and it will succeed.
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This would be the "people's court" that issued pointless indictments and subpoenas that were utterly useless.

And you think it will succeed? That's hilarious. Smartest person I ever encountered? I think not.
 
Childlike Empress said:
In the previous video I've posted (not the current one, but the current one is based on 90 videos of that sort, all about 4-5 hours long), there was Stefan Lanka clashing with Wolfgang Wodarg. Lanka is the one who refutes that there are viruses, Wodarg says from his practise as a Doctor he knows exactly that there are viruses (but to my ears as an interested listener, he just avoided the issues in this conversation). Here is Dr. Lanka's basic outline of why he thinks virology is wrong. If you could briefly take a look at it and outline to me where he is wrong and the article you've linked is right, (shouldn't be that diffucult if it is "exceptionally stupid") I would be (honestly) most thankful.

http://wissenschafftplus.de/uploads/article/wissenschafftplus-the-virus-misconception-part-1.pdf
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His entire argument is one of incredulity. He only mentions vague interpretations of general scientific events/conclusions with no specific indication he knows what he is talking about, or how those interpretations have been tested (apparently never). There is not a single reference to a specific study with any scientific tests that would support ANY of his arguments (his reference section is all to more postulations from other authors, studies he unconvincingly claims are errant, and trial references that despite his arguments to the contrary, are irrelevant to science).

Here is an example of his ramblings:

"With only a few mouse clicks as well, a program can create any virus by putting together molecules of short parts of nucleic acids from dead tissue and cells with a determined biochemical composition, thus arranging them as desired into a longer genotype which is then declared to be the complete genome of the new virus."

Whoaaaaaaaa... How sinister this all sounds, but what does it signify? Nothing. Playing with a computer is a far cry from any attempt to recreate the idea in a lab. He does not provide an iota of evidence for a method in which this could be deceptively incorporated into a scientific study, because it is not that simple. He expects simple people looking for simple answers to fall for his lingo-babble, rather than delving deeper into the scientific facts.

The main fact he can't address (as he clearly didn't in your reference), is the scientific results of the ex vivo studies I mentioned in other posts. I suggest you familiarize yourself with some of those, and you will see how the results are 100% indicative of viral infections.
 
abaddon said:
This would be the "people's court" that issued pointless indictments and subpoenas that were utterly useless.
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What's the difference between the "people's court", aka "grand jury" and the courts that conducted the Salem Witch Trials? The Witch Trials were conducted in actual courts. I grew up in a town named after one of their more notable jurists. He got rather perturbed when a jury came back with an innocent verdict and told them to go back and try again.
 
Childlike Empress said:
It is exactly what I advertised it to be. In a time of society totally corrupted by money and power (and "kompromat"), there are no other "real" courts than this one lead by real people. Not fake at all, and it will succeed.
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It may succeed, just not in the fashion you imagine.
 
MBDK said:
His entire argument is one of incredulity. He only mentions vague interpretations of general scientific events/conclusions with no specific indication he knows what he is talking about, or how those interpretations have been tested (apparently never). There is not a single reference to a specific study with any scientific tests that would support ANY of his arguments (his reference section is all to more postulations from other authors, studies he unconvincingly claims are errant, and trial references that despite his arguments to the contrary, are irrelevant to science).

Here is an example of his ramblings:

"With only a few mouse clicks as well, a program can create any virus by putting together molecules of short parts of nucleic acids from dead tissue and cells with a determined biochemical composition, thus arranging them as desired into a longer genotype which is then declared to be the complete genome of the new virus."

Whoaaaaaaaa... How sinister this all sounds, but what does it signify? Nothing. Playing with a computer is a far cry from any attempt to recreate the idea in a lab. He does not provide an iota of evidence for a method in which this could be deceptively incorporated into a scientific study, because it is not that simple. He expects simple people looking for simple answers to fall for his lingo-babble, rather than delving deeper into the scientific facts.

The main fact he can't address (as he clearly didn't in your reference), is the scientific results of the ex vivo studies I mentioned in other posts. I suggest you familiarize yourself with some of those, and you will see how the results are 100% indicative of viral infections.
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Thanks for your answer. In fact his main argument is that as soon as the late 90-fifties, virology failed to follow the scientific method, in this case the postulates by Robert Koch (who now rotates in his grave having to give his name to what is called by us rascals the "Ruthless Kartell Insitute" (RKI) (officially the Robert Koch Institute which is a part of the government substitute to the Ministry of Health).

All there comes after this, Lanka says, is basically computer-based jerkery. I Look at Dr. Osten and say yes, but I look at common wisdom and say no.

Where are those isolates? You can get 1.5 Million Euros for showing them, the offer stood for around a year. Dr. Osten knows that and said "you are idiots not smart enough to understand me", others like Dr. Streek, one of the few ones who did actual in-field studies, said "I have some in the fridgeator", but he never delivered.
 
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Childlike Empress said:
Where are those isolates? You can get 1.5 Million Euros for showing them, the offer stood for around a year. Dr. Osten knows that and said "you are idiots not smart enough to understand me", others like Dr. Streek, one of the few ones who did actual in-field studies, said "I have some in the fridgeator", but he never delivered.
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No, you can't, unless the offering sponsor decides to. THAT, despite any claims to the contrary, is what the German court decided. The sponsor is sole judge of "proof", as they are the one(s) making the conditions for payment. It was a legal issue, and as such, we can expect no amount of "proof" to be accepted for the promised payout. It would be an exercise in futility to continue to attempt to indulge the insatiable.
 
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