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Cont: Corona Virus Conspiracy Theories Part IV

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This is a complete fabrication.Why do you do this, Bubba? Your doctor friend, Trump calling you, and now this. It's really quite sad. You don't have to puff yourself up like this: just say what you think, without all the imaginary expertise and the pretend conversations that never happened.


Right. 'Suzie' from Johns Hopkins calling me was a joke, silly. Next time I will try to make it more obviously ridiculous for you.

Trump called me? LOL. Why would anyone take that seriously?
(answer: so they can call me a liar)

Yes I have a friend who is a doctor. You decided that is not OK? Why?
 
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Its more like smelling rats. Hidden truths.

Paranoia strikes deep
Into your life it will creep
It starts when you're always afraid
Step out of line, the men come and take you away


Propaganda.
Yes, you fall for it all the time: See: (snicker) Q, The Kraken, etc.
Honest people vs corrupt people.
Yes, the actual experts vs the disinformationists.
Look at who is doing the censoring.
What censoring? There are endless outlets of putrid disinformation available at the click of a mouse; you spread it here.
 
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Peer review is only the latest improvement in the scientific method which has been refined and improved in many ways since it was first invented, to the great benefit of humanity. It's not perfect, nothing is, but fewer mistakes are made with it than without it.



The flaws in peer review were included in a good explanation of how Fauci wields massive power over medical professionals. The piece explained how they fear losing their careers or funding if they stand with their peers who are dissenting, and being targeted for doing so.

I will share it if I can find it.
 
That's why you need to read the articles, at least to get some idea of what's what. And when you do that it's abundantly clear that the alleged debunking is lame. I have a page on it:
https://occamsrazorterrorevents.wee...ebunkers-pcr-tests-scientifically-meaningless



What you'd need to do is debunk their claim not simply push out a paper you think answers the question that there is no evidence for purification. You need to actually read the article. Are you willing to do that?
I did when first offered, and gave you one of the scientific papers that tell exactly HOW they do what Off Guardian was confused on (or more likely willfully ignorant on). The paper IS the evidence for adequate purification. Did you read it? If you do not believe it does what I claim, relate EXACTLY which specific portion(s) you have a problem with and why, in detail. If you wish to hand-wave legitimate scientific work away and promote ignorance, then you are intellectually unreasonable, and beyond help.
 
The flaws in peer review were included in a good explanation of how Fauci wields massive power over medical professionals. The piece explained how they fear losing their careers or funding if they stand with their peers who are dissenting, and being targeted for doing so.

I will share it if I can find it.

Fauci is a public servant who presents information. He doesn't do science himself, nor does he control or define anything. As usual, conspiracists are lost in a paranoid fever dream.
 
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Do you really swallow this?

She thinks David Icke is a reliable source of information. She's also claimed to be the smartest person any of us have ever encountered, and claims to have "worked in science", but won't say anything about the nature of this work. So yeah.
 
Right. 'Suzie' from Johns Hopkins calling me was a joke, silly. Next time I will try to make it more obviously ridiculous for you.

Trump called me? LOL. Why would anyone take that seriously?
(answer: so they can call me a liar)

Yes I have a friend who is a doctor. You decided that is not OK? Why?

You also claimed to have a cartographer friend who was going to help you show us places with like names that line up on maps. Your "doctor friend" is about as believabe.
 
That's why you need to read the articles, at least to get some idea of what's what. And when you do that it's abundantly clear that the alleged debunking is lame. I have a page on it:
https://occamsrazorterrorevents.wee...ebunkers-pcr-tests-scientifically-meaningless
My mistake earlier, I should have edited this out from my earlier response. However, here is the first thing they claim, and it is exceptionally stupid:

"there is no scientific evidence supporting the existence of the alleged virus, SARS-CoV-2, or the alleged illness it causes"

There have been specific ex vivo experiments done with separate Delta and Omicron variants that prove exactly what this statement says they have not. Of course, you don't believe everything you read on the internet, just the stuff that is utter excrement. I mentioned these ex vivo studies to you in an earlier reply, to provide you an opportunity to indicate you could do some honest investigation of your own. It is now obvious you have no intention of travelling that route. So, to lead you directly to the trough, here is one such study. I suggest you drink this time.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-022-04479-6
 
PCR tests have a false positive rate approaching 100%, studies show a false positive rate of 97% which means only 3% of people that test positive actually have "something"

What utter nonsense. Simply false on its face. PCR positivity rates are often under 1% near the bottom of the waves and only briefly go over 30% at the peaks.

Do you really swallow this?


I don't know where you got this "quote" from but in tendency, the more rare a "disease" is in the population, the more false positives the PCR test will produce, especially when run with a CT-Value of 45 like the original Dr.Osten one did. You can always manipulate these values, as there is next to no transparency, and I for one think that this is what is happening now with the sky-rocketing "incidences" for the moronic ("omicron", just sort the letters) variant.
 
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I don't know where you got this "quote" from but in tendency, the more rare a "disease" is in the population, the more false positives the PCR test will produce, especially when run with a CT-Value of 45 like the original Dr.Osten one did. You can always manipulate these values, as there is next to no transparency, and I for one think that this is what is happening now with the sky-rocketing "incidences" for the moronic ("omicron") variant.

I'll ask this again: Are you talking about the German virologist Christian Drosten[/I]?

This guy?

On 23 January 2020, Drosten, along with other virologists in Europe and Hong Kong, published a workflow of a real-time PCR (RT-PCR) diagnostic test,[8] which was accepted by the World Health Organization (WHO) and which sent test kits to affected regions.[9]

On 19 February 2020, Drosten, along with 26 other scientists, published as a co-author of the Statement in support of the scientists, public health professionals, and medical professionals of China combatting COVID-19, which declared "We stand together to strongly condemn conspiracy theories suggesting that COVID-19 does not have a natural origin."[10] In February 2022, physicist Roland Wiesendanger called this statement a deception and criticized Drosten for his participation.[11] Drosten responded on Twitter by questioning Wiesendanger's character.[12]

On 17 March 2020, Drosten was appointed to the European Commission's advisory panel on COVID-19, co-chaired by EC President Ursula von der Leyen and ECHSF Stella Kyriakides.[13][14] On 23 March 2020, The Guardian described Drosten as "the [German] country's real face of the coronavirus crisis", and also noted that the Süddeutsche Zeitung had described Drosten as "the nation's corona-explainer-in-chief".[1] He was a counterpart to Lothar Wieler, head of the State's Robert Koch Institute in Berlin, in consulting to German federal and state authorities.[1]

And.

Drosten himself states that PRC tests developed by him have passed respective certification and the test results “don’t raise any questions”.

On September 22, during the Norddeutscher Rundfunk’s weakly podcast on coronavirus outbreak and treatment, the head of the Virology Institute at Frankfurt University Clinic Sandra Ciesek stated that PCR test remains a “gold standard” for coronavirus diagnostics.
 
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My mistake earlier, I should have edited this out from my earlier response. However, here is the first thing they claim, and it is exceptionally stupid:


In the previous video I've posted (not the current one, but the current one is based on 90 videos of that sort, all about 4-5 hours long), there was Stefan Lanka clashing with Wolfgang Wodarg. Lanka is the one who refutes that there are viruses, Wodarg says from his practise as a Doctor he knows exactly that there are viruses (but to my ears as an interested listener, he just avoided the issues in this conversation). Here is Dr. Lanka's basic outline of why he thinks virology is wrong. If you could briefly take a look at it and outline to me where he is wrong and the article you've linked is right, (shouldn't be that diffucult if it is "exceptionally stupid") I would be (honestly) most thankful.

http://wissenschafftplus.de/uploads/article/wissenschafftplus-the-virus-misconception-part-1.pdf
 
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Interesting insight into what CTists such as CE and yourself discuss when you are ensconced in your own little corner of the world. The reveal is appreciated.
What do you know about the Gergen/Jones item Tippit mentioned?

I recognized it right away.

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Dishonestly pretending to be unaware of the specific censoring looks like.




What censoring? There are endless outlets of putrid disinformation available at the click of a mouse; you spread it here.[/QUOTE]



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Dishonestly pretending
Other's words as your own?

What censoring? There are endless outlets of putrid disinformation available at the click of a mouse; you spread it here.

QFT. Nothing like complaining about censorship on your podcast, national TV spot, newspaper column, senate seat, facebook page, obscure internet forum . . . talk about dishonesty. Ohh Bubba, you rascal, you're done it again!

There, better.
 
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