Cont: Corona Virus Conspiracy Theories Part IV

[EaglePuncher]

587 Athlete Cardiac Arrests, Serious Issues, 361 Dead, After COVID Shot

Guys, guys, this must be true, the site's name is REALscience!!!!

 

[Foster Zygote]

Yes, now how have you controlled for confounding variables; please demonstrate a causal connection between the shots and the deaths.

That would require that she had worked in science, and know how it works in the 21st Century.

 

[Steve]

57,255,244 die each year - on average - that is 162-166,300 each day.

I am pretty sure if you cherry pick the data you can find enough athletes in amount equally nearly 60 million people.

The article linked by the smartest person we will ever encounter did not see fit to define "athlete" in any meaningful way. There are many millions of people in the world who, like myself in my younger days, engaged in amateur sports as a casual pastime. Those persons would not be considered "athletes" by normal people but seem to be included in the article as such.

So yeah, 361 out of 57 million+ over the course of a year is statistical noise.

 

[kookbreaker]

Guys, guys, this must be true, the site's name is REALscience!!!!

No, no. It’s goodsciencing, and Carlitos showed how it is BS in post 2170. CE, the smartest person you will ever meet, ignored that and decided to repeat the lie.

 

[Foster Zygote]

Guys, guys, this must be true, the site's name is REALscience!!!!

Their "about" page is toe-tappingly tragic. The first paragraph pays off immediately.

"A few people have been asking who we are, what our credentials are, and what we’re trying to prove.

We are a small team of investigators, news editors, journalists, and truth seekers, now backed up by others, who are discovering pieces of information that we can investigate. It doesn’t really matter who we are. What really matters is that we care carrying on an investigation and we’re presenting the evidence we’ve found, almost all of it documented in mainstream media publications."

Translation: we know ****-all about the science.

And you gotta love this:

"This week, someone called us 'Morons' because they saw the item about Sebastian Eubank, the boxer who died in Dubai. They said we were morons because a news story said Sebastian drowned. That’s the reason it takes so long to investigate these stories. We have to wait for autopsies and discover their results. Sebastian had a cardiac arrest and his wife stated that too. So rather than just jumping to conclusions, let’s all work together and try to find the truth."

Eubank's widow stated, "Dubai Police and the coroner have confirmed that after a full post-mortem Sebastian Eubank tragically died from a massive heart attack whilst in the sea and probably could not have been saved even if out of the water. There was evidence of a pre-existing heart condition we were all unaware of."

Not that I'd expect much better from someone who thinks David Icke is a reliable source of information.

 

[EaglePuncher]

Their "about" page is toe-tappingly tragic. The first paragraph pays off immediately.

"A few people have been asking who we are, what our credentials are, and what we’re trying to prove.

We are a small team of investigators, news editors, journalists, and truth seekers, now backed up by others, who are discovering pieces of information that we can investigate. It doesn’t really matter who we are. What really matters is that we care carrying on an investigation and we’re presenting the evidence we’ve found, almost all of it documented in mainstream media publications."

Translation: we know ****-all about the science.

And you gotta love this:

"This week, someone called us 'Morons' because they saw the item about Sebastian Eubank, the boxer who died in Dubai. They said we were morons because a news story said Sebastian drowned. That’s the reason it takes so long to investigate these stories. We have to wait for autopsies and discover their results. Sebastian had a cardiac arrest and his wife stated that too. So rather than just jumping to conclusions, let’s all work together and try to find the truth."

Eubank's widow stated, "Dubai Police and the coroner have confirmed that after a full post-mortem Sebastian Eubank tragically died from a massive heart attack whilst in the sea and probably could not have been saved even if out of the water. There was evidence of a pre-existing heart condition we were all unaware of."

Not that I'd expect much better from someone who thinks David Icke is a reliable source of information.

I still don't understand how one could trust these sites. It screams "We are making stuff up but hey, you can support us via PayPal *winkwink*"

This is my personal favorite:

we’re doing this for you too, you just don’t know it yet – when it eventually hurts you or your family, you will want answers.

Save to say, if Covid hurts them or their families, they will want to have a bed in one of those hospitals where the dangerous vaccines live

 

[arthwollipot]

You support vaccine mandates. Why not just cut to the chase, and commission the military to forcibly inject holdouts?

You have got to be joking.

Yes, it "rips" through them with that 99.74% infection survival rate, which would be vastly higher if people were, you know, treated, and not subject to hysteria.

Unlike you, I am not happy with even one person dying.

Sounds like utopia you have going on there down under. You must be proud.

I'm not saying that it's perfect, and I have a certain amount of distaste for people being "proud" of being born in certain countries, but yeah, I'd much rather be living here than in, say, Florida.

Over 100.000 protesters in Saxony alone yesterday. Saxony has about 5% of the citizens of Germany, four millions, but it is the most resistent crowd in the land. If you ever heard of Asterix and Obelix, those are your Saxons. Venceremos!

Asterix and Obelix were located in Brittany, not Saxony.

And yeah, we have a small bunch of these pathetic losers here right now, camped out near the National Library. They "protested" while the Prime Minister held a major press conference yesterday. They're dumb idiots, and I give them exactly the amount of attention that they deserve.

Except when they commit arson and vandalism on a building of national and historical significance. Then they are criminals and deserve to face the full extent of the law that they don't think applies to them. Dumb *****.

 

[junkshop]

Both COVID and the vaccine produce pieces of the S1 subunit of the spike protein that can persist in monocytes resulting in long haul COVID symptoms and ongoing endothelial damage, resulting in numerous pathologies such as clots, strokes and heart attacks.

https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fimmu.2021.746021/full

So these "fact checkers" can claim its debunked all day long, but the links are out there for anyone to click on. Here's a few that have died or collapsed on the field last month.
(Random news reports snip)

I got a lot more where those came from.

I randomly clicked on the last link in the list, not one mention of a dying or collapsing person.

So, just another obnoxious, manipulative lie from Michael Suede

I also tried some of michaelsuede's links (admittedly my selections weren't random - I chose sites I recognised in an attempt to avoid malwarey crapsites). Of the three I read (the Mirror, the Scottish Sun and Somerset Live), while two recounted tragic deaths, and one a (hopefully temporary) coma, precisely zero blamed covid vaccines, or even mentioned whether the subjects had been vaccinated or not.

It's almost as if michaelsuede had just googled for recent, unexpected deaths/illnesses of young sportspeople, and then presented them as if they were proof of covid vaccine toxicity, in an act of blatant dishonesty.

I'm fairly sure, however, that that isn't what happened. My theory is that michaelsuede found that list of links on some other site, and borrowed plagiarised it without doing any due dilligence (but I may be wrong).

 

[junkshop]

... If you ever heard of Asterix and Obelix, those are your Saxons. Venceremos!

...Asterix and Obelix were located in Brittany, not Saxony...

You beat me to it, arthwollipot, but yeah, I don't remember Asterix the Gaul being a Saxon, nor his 'small village in Armorica' being in Saxony...

But then I'm not "the smartest person you will ever meet", so what do I know (apart from where the Asterix stories were set, obviously)?


ETA: Also, what is the relevance of a Chilean protest song from 1970?

 

[Blue Mountain]

587 Athlete Cardiac Arrests, Serious Issues, 361 Dead, After COVID Shot

Anti-vax conspiracy theorist links to a hard-right crackpot site! Film at 11.

QUESTIONABLE SOURCE

Overall, we rate Real Science (goodsciencing.com) right biased and Questionable based on the promotion of quackery level pseudoscience, the use of poor sources, propaganda, failed fact checks, and a complete lack of transparency.

Questionable Reasoning: Propaganda, Pseudoscience, Poor Sourcing, Failed Fact Checks, Lack of Transparency
Bias Rating: EXTREME RIGHT
Factual Reporting: VERY LOW
MBFC Credibility Rating: LOW CREDIBILITY

Link [mediabiasfactcheck.com]

That's as harsh a report that Media Bias Fact Check can generate. "Real Science" makes the Daily Mail look like the Times of London.

 

[Childlike Empress]

Asterix and Obelix were located in Brittany, not Saxony.

It wasn't meant literally, smartypants. It was meant in the "everybody has succumbed to the Romans but that little village" sense. You might want to look up what Charlemagne had to do to them to make them comply. Although that happened in Lower Saxony, not in what is now called the Free State of Saxony.

 

[Childlike Empress]

That's as harsh a report that Media Bias Fact Check can generate. "Real Science" makes the Daily Mail look like the Times of London.

Speaks for the site. The more the "fact-checkers" are up in arms, the more likely it is that there is something valueable to be found. I wonder how a collection of athlete deaths can be "right-wing", but that's only me I guess. First source I found, remember that I usually read in German language on those topics.

Feel free to apply that "fact-checker" filter. I'm sure it will make you smarter.

 

[carlitos]

Indeed, how can a list of athletes, some of whom died, many of them unvaccinated, none of whom died from the COVID vaccine, being circulated as a “list of athletes dropping dead from the COVID vaccine” be “right wing.” In the old days, most anti-vaccine liars were left wing. Progress, I guess.

Like Asterix the Gaul going to Lower Saxony for a VW or some Jägermeister.

 

[Cosmic Yak]

I randomly clicked on the last link in the list, not one mention of a dying or collapsing person.

So, just another obnoxious, manipulative lie from Michael Suede

I looked at the Saudi one- no mention of vaccination.
The Oklahoma one died of bacterial meningitis.
The Somerset one also made no mention of vaccines. Plus the man was a former athlete, not a current one.
Gish Gallop of crap, basically.

ETA: Ninja'd by junkshop on the Somerset one.

 

[Cosmic Yak]

Speaks for the site. The more the "fact-checkers" are up in arms, the more likely it is that there is something valueable to be found. I wonder how a collection of athlete deaths can be "right-wing", but that's only me I guess. First source I found, remember that I usually read in German language on those topics.

Feel free to apply that "fact-checker" filter. I'm sure it will make you smarter.

May I humbly petition the smartest person I'm ever likely to meet to explain how to check facts without fact-checking?
This sophisticated propaganda machine is confusing for shambling dullards like me: please shine some of your enlightening magnificence on me.

 

[Childlike Empress]

Thinking about it, assuming that I of all people don't know where Asterix and Obelix, in the comic, are located, is symptomatic of this thread. A gang of conformist circle-jerkers projecting their utter lack of insight and intellectual independence onto thier perceived enemies, those outside the cult. What a joke.

 

[Tippit]

You have got to be joking.

So, no problem ruining someone's life who doesn't want this poison, but you wouldn't go the extra mile and forcibly inject them.

Unlike you, I am not happy with even one person dying.

People die all the time. What cost proves to be too much to save that one person? Since you care and virtue signal so much, why would you deny people lifesaving early treatments. How many deaths were caused as a result?

I'm not saying that it's perfect, and I have a certain amount of distaste for people being "proud" of being born in certain countries, but yeah, I'd much rather be living here than in, say, Florida.

Literally couldn't be more grateful that I'm living in Florida versus anywhere else on the planet. Mostly because Covid has been over here for a long time. The weather is nice too.

 

[bruto]

May I humbly petition the smartest person I'm ever likely to meet to explain how to check facts without fact-checking?
This sophisticated propaganda machine is confusing for shambling dullards like me: please shine some of your enlightening magnificence on me.

It's easy. You just change the facts or say they weren't meant to be facts. Saxon Schmaxon.

 

[Tippit]

Indeed, how can a list of athletes, some of whom died, many of them unvaccinated, none of whom died from the COVID vaccine, being circulated as a “list of athletes dropping dead from the COVID vaccine” be “right wing.” In the old days, most anti-vaccine liars were left wing. Progress, I guess.

What makes you so sure of this?

 

[Petra]

Excess mortality doesn't automatically mean covid is the cause

There are a number of scientists and doctors who speak against the mainstream narrative and to call them conspiracy theorists is inapt because although they must infer a conspiracy is involved the notion of a conspiracy is incidental, their main claim - backed by often very detailed argument - is that the science put forward for the virus, genomic sequencing, virus illness, outbreak modelling and pandemic is fraudulent. That is their main claim - scientific fraudulence and whether the fraudulence comes from an individual or is the result of a conspiracy is of lesser importance.

On FB last year someone posted figures indicating an excess spike in mortality in Europe in April 2020 and challenged me to explain the excess spike assuming covid not to be the cause. I was stumped, I didn't believe it was covid because I don't believe covid has been proven to exist but at the same time while I believe many lies have been told I didn't believe that the mortality figures would be falsified and I had no other explanation. I told the FB poster that I would chew on those figures. A couple of weeks later, NZ doctor, Sam Bailey, a former co-presenter of the medical myth-busting series, The Checkup, and a bit of a media darling who is now persona non grata because of her views on the pandemic published a video explaining how the excess spike corresponded well with aggressive drug trials conducted in certain European countries.

She showed, for example, using figures from the European mortality monitoring site, euromomo, that while Spain showed an excess spike in mortality, neighbouring Portugal actually had a lower spike than in 2017. Spain conducted aggressive drug trials while Portugal did not.

You can find her video, Excess Mortality, What You Aren't Being Told, on her odysee channel, DrSamBailey. (Not entitled to post URLs yet)

Her husband, Dr Mark Bailey, also a medical doctor, co-authored a paper that reveals the obvious planning of this “pandemic” by the globalist elite and meticulously analyses the 4 fraudulent interlocking pillars of:

Virus isolation
Genomic sequencing
PCR
Outbreak modelling

Dr Mark Bailey MB ChB, PGDipMSM, MHealSc (Otago)
Is a microbiology, medical industry and health researcher who worked in medical practice, including clinical trials, for two decades.

Dr John Bevan-Smith BA (Hons) First Class, PhD (Auckland)
Is a business owner, author and researcher, who has undertaken research for the Waitangi Tribunal Te Rōpū Whakamana i te TiriP o Waitangi/The Ministry of JusPce Te Tāhū o te Ture.

Paper – The COVID-19 Fraud & War on Humanity
You can find this paper by internet search

Sam's latest video, What Is Making People Sick, discusses other causes of mortality related to the intervention measures, not the alleged covid. (See her odysee channel DrSamBailey)