Cont: Corona Virus Conspiracy Theories Part IV

[MBDK]

Hell, there were people who thought bathing would make you sick.

Tippit???

 

[varwoche]

Contradiction and irrationally are the sauce in which conspiracy thinking is best dipped in for a deeper taste of crazy.

Deeply infused with illusory superiority.

 

[MBDK]

What you, and people like you find believable, is the least of my concerns.

Then your true purpose of posting here is???

Oh, wait...narcissism - just as previously identified.

 

[Paul2]

There is a difference between contemporary, experimental, for-profit allopathic medical science, and well-accepted medical science. Not everything that masquerades as science, is science. In fact, I can't think of a time before now when science has been so politicized.

But your two quotations didn't distinguish that at all. I presume, then, you just mis-spoke (mis-typed?) yourself. If that's all that was, that's fine, we've all done it.

 

[Craig4]

What I actually will do, is pick and choose among the benefits that medical science offers, while being fully aware of its limitations and conflicts of interest and being skeptical all the while.


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Why would you do that when your understanding of those limitations is so unsophisticated?

 

[Craig4]

What you, and people like you find believable, is the least of my concerns.

I will believe what I think is true, and most likely, above all.


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And yet you've demonstrated no capacity to understand what is or is not most likely.

 

[Tippit]

But your two quotations didn't distinguish that at all. I presume, then, you just mis-spoke (mis-typed?) yourself. If that's all that was, that's fine, we've all done it.

If you were trying to be charitable, you would have realized that such a distinction is obvious. Obviously there have been lots of beneficial advances in medical science. There have, correspondingly, been lots of research that has been suppressed or ignored because it can’t be monetized, or because it doesn’t further some political agenda.


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[MBDK]

There have, correspondingly, been lots of research that has been suppressed or ignored because it can’t be monetized, or because it doesn’t further some political agenda.

Evidence? Also, what is your answer to my earlier request for an actual example that shows your belief that the secrecy of compartmentalization is valid?

 

[No Other]

What Tippet says regarding supplements (I'll use that term to encompass all his points on ingesting purposeful ingredients) is spot on! Instead throwing out opinions, challenge Tippet on his comments about nutrients, thyroids, and cancer curing treatments.

He certainly knows a massive amount of information regarding the upkeep of the human body. Zinc was glossed over because the moment it was mentioned by Tippet... silence fell over the crowd. Why always pick a fight?

 

[Paul2]

If you were trying to be charitable, you would have realized that such a distinction is obvious. Obviously there have been lots of beneficial advances in medical science. There have, correspondingly, been lots of research that has been suppressed or ignored because it can’t be monetized, or because it doesn’t further some political agenda.


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I charitably (tried) to give you a path out of it -

I presume, then, you just mis-spoke (mis-typed?) yourself. If that's all that was, that's fine, we've all done it.

whether that path was based on something incorrect or not, whether you mis-spoke or not. It was still me giving you a path out of it, charitably.

Oh well.

 

[Tippit]

whether that path was based on something incorrect or not, whether you mis-spoke or not. It was still me giving you a path out of it, charitably.

Oh well.

I don't need a path out of it. There are serious limitations in peer reviewed medical science, and randomized controlled trials which have led to a lot of "science" that isn't so, and actual science that is suppressed. This doesn't mean that I don't bathe with soap, or use toothpaste as was suggested.

 

[No Other]

I don't need a path out of it. There are serious limitations in peer reviewed medical science, and randomized controlled trials which have led to a lot of "science" that isn't so, and actual science that is suppressed.

The authors of the paper (see below link) had it peer reviewed. Within months of publishing paper on 3-28-2020 Robert Garry and Kristian Andersen received $8.9M in grants from NIH. There is a large story as to how this paper came to be but I am sure you all know it. Then as time went on, this paper got debunked.

Peer review is a scam, it's like George Carlin talking about Congress... "it's a big club and you ain't in it."

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32284615/

 

[eerok]

Peer review is a scam, it's like George Carlin talking about Congress... "it's a big club and you ain't in it."

Science-by-social-media is a scam. Alternative medicine is a scam. CT paranoia is a scam. Russian disinfo is a scam. Libertarian psychopathy is a scam. Andrew Wakefield and other self-interested BS artists are a scam.

Peer review, though, is not a scam.

 

[Craig4]

I don't need a path out of it. There are serious limitations in peer reviewed medical science, and randomized controlled trials which have led to a lot of "science" that isn't so, and actual science that is suppressed. This doesn't mean that I don't bathe with soap, or use toothpaste as was suggested.

Yet you've demonstrated no capacity to understand those limitation.

 

[Foster Zygote]

I never claimed this.

But you wrote, "I have zero trust of, and absolute cynicism for medical “science”, and It’s hard for me to even ponder how others don’t have the same cynicism".

At least I finally have an answer to my earlier query. You're simply smarter than millions of medical scientists the world over. I can't fathom what an ideal physical and cognitive specimen such as yourself is still doing in Florida.

Cancer treatment and research are probably one of the most dubious aspects of medical science. Blah blah blah...

Thanks Dr. Tiptpi! I'll bet my friend could have treated his infant daughter's heart defect with mega-doses of vitamin C, and my friends and family who had apendectomies could have just drunk lots of purified water.

 

[Hans]

I asked you a very specific question regarding how the fiat money system could possibly be gamed, and you apparently aren't capable of answering it. Would you like to try again?

More or less, yes. I realize this is a difficult concept for you to comprehend, and requires some "imagination".

I did you weren't capable of understanding it. I'll restate: all aspect of human society can be gamed but not all are. I live and worked in the Middle-East for many years and I saw pretty much every governmental scam there was.

[/IMG]

I am fully aware that you are trying to have us accept your imaginary constructs - we aren't going to.

Can you imagine that?

But the only alternative to some ridiculous idea of a top down method of global control by a huge network of psychopaths, is the idea of compartmentalization, and not so much people at the top giving direct orders, but using monetary influence to select people who are already predetermined to serve their agenda without even knowing it.

Kind of like you are doing right now by defending them, and discrediting the notion that any of this is even possible.

So if everything is compartmentalized who runs the personnel office? Or are you saying no one in these groups knows whose in the organization?

We know the the CIA, NSA, CSIS, 610 office, Mafia, Narco lords, FSB etc exist despite there using compartmentalization.

Your group of evil doers exists in your head.

How do I 'defend' unicorns? LOL

Whose the head and where is the Headquarters and who does the recruiting and how does there pension system work? How about dissenters? Where are they?

 

[Hans]

It doesn't mean they're omnipotent, but it does mean that they're perpetually trying to set up a world in which they are.

So, how long as they been trying this? Over a century right?

 

[Resume]

Science-by-social-media is a scam. Alternative medicine is a scam. CT paranoia is a scam. Russian disinfo is a scam. Libertarian psychopathy is a scam. Andrew Wakefield and other self-interested BS artists are a scam.

Peer review, though, is not a scam.

COVID disinformationists are dangerous scam artists.

 

[Craig4]

No its his go to bugbear. THEY are behind everything, no matter how silly or contradicting or illogical.

In his world the fact that they control banking and can make up all the money they want they still need to gather up chump change from vaccines?

It's like a theist claiming the Devil or God is behind everything that happens.

It's his go to 'evidence' when he had none.

I suppose that Tippit could be the exception is possible. That said, I've never encountered someone who believed the things he does who is not a failure in all the measurable areas of their life. No one who believes what he believes goes home to an upper middle class suburb, a loving spouse, 2.6 adoring children and a golden retriever. You end up believing in a New World Order keeping you down because you're not a genius, wealthy, super athlete.

 

[Chris_Halkides]

peer review vs. the alternative

The authors of the paper (see below link) had it peer reviewed. Within months of publishing paper on 3-28-2020 Robert Garry and Kristian Andersen received $8.9M in grants from NIH. There is a large story as to how this paper came to be but I am sure you all know it. Then as time went on, this paper got debunked.

Peer review is a scam, it's like George Carlin talking about Congress... "it's a big club and you ain't in it."

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32284615/

In academia one writes papers. Partially on the basis of productivity, one receives grants. Do you have any evidence of something fishy with respect to this grant? Regarding peer review, it is not perfect, and no one I know has ever claimed it was. I can imagine tweaks, but I cannot imagine an entirely different system that would be even as good, let alone better.