Cont: Corona Virus Conspiracy Theories Part IV

[Bubba]

What is your source for these claims?

What is your source, which/who is actively keeping you in the dark (perception/mind control)...(for months now), and why are they not telling you? Who controls they who control you?
Hint: B. Ph.

PS:
All of this of course means I AM NOW YOUR SOURCERER !






Seriously though, of course your usual sources will surely tell you, right away, probably first thing tomorrow morning.

On the other hand, the 20-40% spike in overall mortality really is trivial, so trivial that they may not get to it right away. Let's see how long it takes your sources to tell you.

Months ago my doctor friend (since college, 1970's) began telling me doctors are afraid to talk about it except in private, as I mentioned earlier, (you know how the honest doctors, McCullough Malone, Zelenko, etc etc etc have been attacked). (note Joe Rogan now attacked)

Since Steve, Arthwollipot, and eerok sneered and scoffed, I called my doctor pal, just to be sure I was correctly representing what he told me.

He confirmed the part about doctors watching it and being afraid to go public. He added:

"Tell your forum buddies that I first heard the actual numbers from Dr. Mercola, about a week ago. I will send the link when I get home"

Maybe you can search Mercola for it, MBDK

 

[arthwollipot]

Since Steve, Arthwollipot, and eerok sneered and scoffed, I called my doctor pal, just to be sure I was correctly representing what he told me.

He confirmed the part about doctors watching it and being afraid to go public. He added:

"Tell your forum buddies that I first heard the actual numbers from Dr. Mercola, about a week ago. I will send the link when I get home"

Maybe you can search Mercola for it, MBDK

Okay, that's funny.

 

[Cosmic Yak]

Maybe you'll feel better after you confirm that I linked to that article more than six hours before you did.

Ninja'd by W.D. Clinger!

See, people- it's not that difficult!

 

[Cosmic Yak]

I'm thinking Bubba's "doctor friend" is some rando on Twitter who has the letters "Dr" in their handle.

I think you're being too kind.
I personally think this conversation only happened in Bubba's head.

Of course, Bubba is perfectly free to get his 'doctor friend' to register on this forum, and then we can find out.
How about it, Bubba?

 

[Bubba]

This mortality spike is part of how/why the narrative some of you eagerly swallowed is falling apart.

JP Sears is here to help. Here his latest video "The Narrative is Crumbling - 16 Reasons Why"

Let me know if he nailed it (always does) I haven't watched it yet, as I've been busy sharing the news about the mortality spike.


The Narrative is Crumbling - 16 Reasons Why

https://www. youtube .com/ watch?v=D70kZDLGr4Q

 

[Bubba]

Okay, that's funny.

Regarding your stated profound disdain for Dr Mercola......as far as I know (but its early yet) he was the first to post the mortality spike numbers, so will you be generous enough to upgrade his rating when you learn it is real?

 

[arthwollipot]

I think you're being too kind.
I personally think this conversation only happened in Bubba's head.

Of course, Bubba is perfectly free to get his 'doctor friend' to register on this forum, and then we can find out.
How about it, Bubba?

I'd like to know when Bubba's "doctor friend" got their doctorate, from which university, and what their specialty is.

 

[Bubba]

In case it escapes you, the take away here is not about the significance of the death rate spike (which is very significant)...The take home prize is that you heard it from me.

Your "sources" are hiding it from you, right now.

 

[arthwollipot]

Regarding your stated profound disdain for Dr Mercola......as far as I know (but its early yet) he was the first to post the mortality spike numbers, so will you be generous enough to upgrade his rating when you learn it is real?

I won't give the liar Mercola the dignity of a click.

 

[arthwollipot]

In case it escapes you, the take away here is not about the significance of the death rate spike (which is very significant)...The take home prize is that you heard it from me.

Your "sources" are hiding it from you, right now.

And you heard it from some "doctor friend" of yours, who heard it from the liar Mercola.

 

[The Great Zaganza]

In case it escapes you, the take away here is not about the significance of the death rate spike (which is very significant)...The take home prize is that you heard it from me.

Your "sources" are hiding it from you, right now.

Hey, I got some vitally important information everyone os hiding from you and that you can only get from me.
But it's going to cost you.

 

[Bubba]

And you heard it from some "doctor friend" of yours, who heard it from the liar Mercola.

My doctor friend called me back. He said yes, Mercola reported the death rate spike, and Mercola's articles are now available for only a day or two, before being archived, after he was attacked by Biden, (Zuckerberg, Dorsey, google,) for "disinformation"

No matter. Apparently Epoch Times picked it up. You might catch on if you dont double down in denial. Good luck with that.

BTW, you are so far down in the dark, regarding Mercola.!! When you learn the mortality rate spike is for real, and he was the first, or one of the first to post it, about a week ago, while your "sources" hid it from you (and still are hiding it right now)....maybe you will wake the F up.

 

[Bubba]

There, better.

No. Way no.

My doctor friend called back. I told him all about you. He said this puzzle piece below shows why "Way No" is way better than anything your sheepy mind ever thought.
Do go early for you next booster.

EXCLUSIVE: States Investigating Surge in Mortality Rate Among 18–49-Year-Olds, Majority Unrelated to COVID-19


https://www.theepochtimes.com/sever...f&utm_campaign=mb-2022-01-15&utm_medium=email

 

[arthwollipot]

My doctor friend called me back. He said yes, Mercola reported the death rate spike, and Mercola's articles are now available for only a day or two, before being archived, after he was attacked by Biden, (Zuckerberg, Dorsey, google,) for "disinformation"

Yes, Mercola is one of the Disinformation Dozen, one of twelve people that a majority of antivax content on social media can be traced back to.

No matter. Apparently Epoch Times picked it up. You might catch on if you dont double down in denial. Good luck with that.

Epoch Times! The far-right propaganda mouthpiece of Falun Gong. This gets even better.

BTW, you are so far down in the dark, regarding Mercola.!! When you learn the mortality rate spike is for real, and he was the first, or one of the first to post it, about a week ago, while your "sources" hid it from you (and still are hiding it right now)....maybe you will wake the F up.

Mercola is a lying liar who lies. He's been lying for decades, and he he's not about to stop now.

Joseph Michael Mercola (/mərˈkoʊlə/;[1] born July 8, 1954) is an American alternative medicine proponent, osteopathic physician, and Internet business personality. He markets dietary supplements and medical devices.[2] On his website, Mercola and colleagues advocate a number of unproven and pseudoscientifc alternative health notions including homeopathy and opposition to vaccination. These positions have faced persistent criticism.[3] Mercola is a member of several alternative medicine organizations as well as the political advocacy group Association of American Physicians and Surgeons, which promotes scientifically discredited views about medicine and disease.[4] Until 2013,[5] Mercola operated the "Dr. Mercola Natural Health Center" (formerly the "Optimal Wellness Center") in Schaumburg, Illinois.[6] He is the author of the books The No-Grain Diet [7] (with Alison Rose Levy) and The Great Bird Flu Hoax.

Mercola's medical claims have been criticized by the medical, scientific, regulatory, and business communities. A 2006 BusinessWeek editorial stated his marketing practices relied on "slick promotion, clever use of information, and scare tactics."[6] In 2005, 2006, and 2011, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) warned Mercola and his company that they were making illegal claims for their products' ability to detect, prevent, and treat disease.[8] The medical watchdog site Quackwatch has criticized Mercola for making "unsubstantiated claims [that] clash with those of leading medical and public health organizations and many unsubstantiated recommendations for dietary supplements."[9] Of Mercola's marketing techniques, surgical oncologist David Gorski says it "mixes the boring, sensible health advice with pseudoscientific advice in such a way that it's hard for someone without a medical background to figure out which is which."[3]

During the COVID-19 pandemic, Mercola spread misinformation about the virus and pseudoscientific anti-vaccine misinformation on social media platforms;[10][11][12] researchers have identified him as the "chief spreader of coronavirus misinformation online".[10][13][14][15] He has been warned numerous times by the FDA for selling unapproved health products, including supposed treatments for COVID-19.[14] Mercola was banned from Youtube on September 29, 2021.[16]

 

[Pixel42]

I've been looking forward to returning so you guys can explain this for me, since y'all are so well informed by your awesome sources.

You get that we only need to explain things that actually happened, right? We don't need to explain lies you stumble across, blindly swallow, and then come here to mindlessly parrot.

Provide some actual evidence for this 'spike' you're wittering about and we'll look into it for you. My guess is that at most it's a piece of data which has been cherry picked and wilfully misrepresented to make it look like it means something it actually doesn't, which is the usual case with the stuff you find.

 

[Cosmic Yak]

How is that respectful *** **** ?

It wasn't. Respect has to be earned, and you haven't got anywhere near that yet.
However, if you're not happy with the situation, go ahead and improve it. Start showing respect for your fellow forum members, and perhaps some of them will reciprocate.
It would appear, though, from the presence of the autocensor in your post, that this is unlikely to happen. In which case, this situation is entirely of your own making.

 

[Bubba]

You get that we only need to explain things that actually happened, right? We don't need to explain lies you stumble across, blindly swallow, and then come here to mindlessly parrot.

Provide some actual evidence for this 'spike' you're wittering about and we'll look into it for you. My guess is that at most it's a piece of data which has been cherry picked and wilfully misrepresented to make it look like it means something it actually doesn't, which is the usual case with the stuff you find.

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Woefully clueless you are as to how fully deceived you are. But dont blame thyself. They (controlling your thoughts) truly are (almost) masters at deception. You apparently have swallowed so much of it that your discernment may well be irretrievably compromised. Relax, I'm here to help.

When you learn the truth about the mortality rate spike, from America's CDC Statistics which Epoch Times, and Mercola are (so far)

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reporting, will you awaken, or will you gladly proceed with your bi-annual injections, as you earlier indicated?


Will you search and confirm CDC numbers on your own, or wait for your trusted and vaunted *sources* to "inform" you.? BBC? CNN? Tomorrow, perhaps.

 

[Cosmic Yak]

No. Way no.

My doctor friend called back. I told him all about you. He said this puzzle piece below shows why "Way No" is way better than anything your sheepy mind ever thought.
Do go early for you next booster.

Re. your Epoch Times story.
Did you follow the links to the data they said they'd analysed? You must have, right, because you wouldn't just unthinkingly accept what the media told you, right, Bubba?
I mean specifically the link to the 'death certificate data' from the CDC.
Have you checked that it says what the Epoch Times claims it says?

 

[MBDK]

No. Way no.

My doctor friend called back. I told him all about you. He said this puzzle piece below shows why "Way No" is way better than anything your sheepy mind ever thought.
Do go early for you next booster.

Quote:
EXCLUSIVE: States Investigating Surge in Mortality Rate Among 18–49-Year-Olds, Majority Unrelated to COVID-19


https://www.theepochtimes.com/severa...m_medium=email

Thanks for providing something tangible to work with.

However, it is very easy to see from the link provided where the inability to interpret, or outright dishonest presentation of, the data can be found. The Epoch Times has a link embedded in this sentence:

"according to an analysis by The Epoch Times of death certificate data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC)".

That link takes us to this page:

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm#SexAndAge

Scroll down on that page to the section Excess deaths. Below that there is a link in this sentence:

"See the NCHS Excess Deaths Data Visualization"

This will take us here: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm

This is where the actual facts/data can be easily determined, although the default dashboard is where the idiots who make your claims stop. The graph says "Weekly Number of Deaths (from all causes)". There, if you hover your pointer along the individual week's data bars, you will find that for the week ending January 2 of 2021 there was an excess of 45.1%. That is the highest weekly excess recorded there, and it certainly is alarming. But remember that is from ALL causes, including COVID-19. To find out the actual relationship, a little more work is required, but that would throw the conspiracy nuts' narrative right out their basement window.

The truth is clear once you perform a simple update to the dashboard on that page. Scroll down to the Options bar, and click the circle above the "Excess deaths with and without COVID-19" option. Then click on the "Update dashboard" bar. Now, you get a separate look at how the excess deaths occurred. The lower bars in the graph (as noted in the key) tell you the predicted number of deaths from all causes excluding COVID-19, as well as the percentage of excess deaths seen without including those COVID-19 numbers. With this crucial adjustment, the highest percent excess on the entire chart is 7.8%, which is well within normal fluctuations. For data comparison to january 2 of 2021, that percent excess is 3.6%.

So, as usual, for all their panicked rhetoric, and obfuscation of base data, the claims made by your sources are still complete and utter BS.

 

[Bubba]

Oh thank Odin...

I knew you'd put this fire out in a N Y minute.