Cont: Corona Virus Conspiracy Theories Part IV

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LOL at that picture with the three stooges. jimbob, you understand that showing the Roman salute in public is iillegal in Germany, right? If these stooges weren't stooges, they would be in jail or at least in big legal trouble.

You don't usually see people like this at any demonstrations against the fascist corona-regime.

Seriously, get a grip.

They aren't in Germany.

Indeed. That flag is the flag of Oswald Mosley's British Union of Fascists and National Socialists* at an anti lockdown demonstration in Trafalgar Square. You can see the flags of Canada House in the background.

Mosley married in a house owned by Goebbels with Hitler as guest of honour. I think it's safe to call anyone flying that flag proudly a Nazi.

The three antivaxers giving the Nazi salute were supporters of a minor candidate at a by election in Glasgow.

Note the vile use of the yellow star as well. VERY common outside Germany amongst antivaxers.

The AfD seems pretty antivax, and by most standards, they're far-right.
 
I read some stuff from a prophet the other day, and surprisingly, he's almost right some of the time, so I figure I'd better pay attention when he says we're all stuck in a matrix designed by Zionist space lizards so clever only he knows what they're up to. I mean hidden truths can't be any good unless they're hidden, right? The appearance of craziness is a ruse erected by the Illuminati to mislead us. He must be either a god or a lunatic, and he knows how to tie his shoes, so...god it is.
 
I read some stuff from a prophet the other day, and surprisingly, he's almost right some of the time, so I figure I'd better pay attention when he says we're all stuck in a matrix designed by Zionist space lizards so clever only he knows what they're up to. I mean hidden truths can't be any good unless they're hidden, right? The appearance of craziness is a ruse erected by the Illuminati to mislead us. He must be either a god or a lunatic, and he knows how to tie his shoes, so...god it is.

Nah, it's just his attempt to hide his antisemitic conspiracy theories by using codewords for Jews.
 
jimbob, I couldn't care less about a band of three obscure British Nazis. Has nothing to do with the mass protests agsainst the fascist corona-regime. As I said, this nonsense doesn't work anymore.

Today Saxony again, Monday demonstrations in around 100 cities and villages. They know totalitarianism when they see it. Has been only a bit over 30 years.

edit: List of protests in Saxony today (copied from telegram):

Adorf -18 Uhr- Markt
Altenburg -18 Uhr- Brüderkirche
Auerbach (Vgtl) -19 Uhr- Markt
Bad Gottleuba - 18 Uhr - Markt
Bad Lausick - 19 Uhr - Rathaus
Bad Schandau -19 Uhr- Markt
Bautzen –18 Uhr– Kornmarkt
Bannewitz -19 Uhr- Markt
Beierfeld -19 Uhr- Bernsbacher-/August-Bebel-Str.
Bernsbach -19 Uhr- Markt
Bernsdorf -18 Uhr- Lidl
Bischofswerda -18 Uhr- Markt
Böhlen -18 Uhr- Rathaus
Brandis -19 Uhr- Markt
Breitenbrunn -19 Uhr- Rathaus
Burgstädt -19 Uhr- Brühl
Canitz -18 Uhr- Feuerwehr
Chemnitz –18 Uhr- Schillerplatz
Chemnitz-Einsiedel -19 Uhr- Pyramide
Colditz -19 Uhr- Fleischerei Sogut
Coswig -18 Uhr- Wettinplatz
Delitzsch -19 Uhr- Markt
Diera-Zehren -18 Uhr- Ortskern
Dippoldiswalde -18 Uhr- Parksäle
Dorfhain -18 Uhr- ehemalige Schule
Döbeln –19 Uhr– Obermarkt
Dresden –18 Uhr- Pieschener Allee (Korso); 18 Uhr - Wiener Platz
Eilenburg -19 Uhr- Markt
Eppendorf -18 Uhr- Alte Schule
Frankenberg -18 Uhr- Markt
Freital -18 Uhr- Neumarkt
Frauenstein -18 Uhr- Markt
Fraureuth -18 Uhr- Erich Glowatzky Halle
Freiberg –18 Uhr– Albertpark
Freital -18 Uhr- Neumarkt
Frohburg -19 Uhr- Markt
Geising -19 Uhr- Markt
Gersdorf -18 Uhr- Markt
Glauchau -18 Uhr- Markt
Glaubitz -18 Uhr- Drei Lilien
Glashütte -18 Uhr- An der Feuerwehr
Geithain –19 Uhr- Markt
Görlitz -18:30 Uhr- Postplatz
Graupzig -18 Uhr- Windräder (still. Protest)
Greiz -18 Uhr- Schloßbrücke
Großharthau -17.30 Uhr- Eisenbahnbrücke
Grimma –19 Uhr- Markt
Großenhain -19 Uhr- Markt
Hainichen -19 Uhr- Markt
Halle -18 Uhr- Moritzkirche
Hartenstein -19 Uhr- Markt
Hartmannsdorf -18.30 Uhr- Parkplatz Elcon
Heidenau -19 Uhr- Markt
Hohenstein-Ernst. -18 Uhr- Markt
Hoyerswerda -18 Uhr- Lausitzer Platz
Jahnsdorf -19 Uhr- ab Nahkauf
Johanngeorgenstadt -18 Uhr- Platz des Bergmannes
Jöhstadt -19 Uhr- Markt
Kamenz -18 Uhr- Markt
Kitzscher -18 Uhr- Rathaus
Königsbrück -18.30 Uhr- Markt
Königstein -19 Uhr- Markt
Königswalde -19 Uhr- Parkanlage
Kreischa -19.30 Uhr- Jahrmarktswiese
Leipzig -18 Uhr- Augustusplatz
Leipzig-Engelsdorf -18 Uhr- Norma
Lengenfeld (Vgtl) -18.30 Uhr- Markt
Lichtenstein -18 Uhr- Kreisverkehr
Limbach-O. –18.30 Uhr- Rathausplatz
Löbau -18 Uhr- Altmarkt
Königsbrück -18:30- Markt
Machern -19 Uhr- Markt
Markkleeberg -19 Uhr- Bahnhof
Markranstädt -17.30 Uhr- Markt
Marienberg -19 Uhr- Markt
Meißen –19 Uhr– Heinrichsplatz
Meuselwitz -18 Uhr- Markt
Milkau –18 Uhr- Busplatz
Mittweida - 19 Uhr- Markt
Neugersdorf -18 Uhr - Markt
Neustadt -18.30 Uhr- Markt
Niesky -18 Uhr- Zinzendorfplatz
Nossen –19 Uhr– Markt
Oederan -18.30 Uhr- Markt
Oelsnitz (Erz) -19 Uhr- Markt
Oelsnitz (Vgtl) -18.30 Uhr- Jakobikirche
Olbernhau -19 Uhr- Gessingplatz
Oschatz -19.00 Uhr- Rathaustreppe
Ortrand -18.30 Uhr- Markt
Ottendorf-Okrilla -19 Uhr- Rathaus
Plauen –18:30 Uhr– Wendedenkmal
Pirna -19 Uhr- Markt
Pulsnitz -18 Uhr- Markt
Rabenau -18.30 Uhr- Markt
Raschau-Markersbach - 18 Uhr - Markt
Radeberg -19 Uhr- Markt
Radebeul -19 Uhr- Ostbahnhof
Radeburg -19 Uhr- Markt
Reichenbach (Vogtl) -19 Uhr- Markt
Riesa -18 Uhr- Rathausplatz
Rochlitz -18 Uhr- Markt
Röderau -18 Uhr- Markt
Rothenburg (Lausitz) -18 Uhr- Markt
Schönheide -19 Uhr- Rathaus
Schmiedeberg -18 Uhr- Feuerwehr
Schkeuditz -19 Uhr- Rathausplatz
Schneeberg –19 Uhr– Markt
Schwarzenberg -19 Uhr- Markt
Sebnitz -19 Uhr- Markt
Seerhausen -18 Uhr- Ortskern
Stauchitz -19 Uhr- Edeka
Stollberg -18 Uhr- Markt
Thalheim (Erz.) -18 Uhr- Rathaus
Torgau –18 Uhr– Markt
Treuen -18 Uhr- Markt
Waldheim -19 Uhr- Markt
Weißenfels -18 Uhr- Fürstenhaus
Weißwasser -18 Uhr- Markt
Werdau -18 Uhr- Markt
Wilsdruff -18 Uhr- Markt
Wurzen -18.30 Uhr- Markt
Wülknitz -18 Uhr- Markt
Zabeltitz -19 Uhr- Schloss
Zeithain -18 Uhr- Feuerwehr
Zittau -18 Uhr- Stadtring
Zschopau -19 Uhr- Markt
Zwenkau -19 Uhr- Markt
Zwickau –18 Uhr- Hauptmarkt
Zwönitz -19 Uhr- Markt
 
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Well Stan's sure to win recognition of his right to have babies once the PFJ has ousted the hated Romans once and for all.
 
A question for anyone. Is CE claiming that the COVID-19 virus and its variants don't actually exist? If so, has this already been hashed out?
 
Tom Palven said:
This is different from the kind of headlines we've been seeing from Reuters since 2019:
https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-p...ne-2021-12-20/

In both cases, this is "linked to" but not 100% confirmed (correlation does not equal causation), so that is two people (who probably died from the vaccines) out of 8,006,454 doses given. (and yes, you have to count both doses because there are recorded cases or myocarditis reactions that did not appear until after the second dose).

...and the other one of those two people was an overweight woman who died from blood clots, and who was taking medication for cranial diabetes insipidusa. That medication was Desmopressin, a drug that is also given to people with haemophilia to improve their blood clotting when they bleed.

ETA: Also worth noting regarding the man that article is about....

The person in question had not sought any medical advice or treatment for the symptoms, the board found.

The board also noted that Myocarditis was a treatable condition if identified, with earlier treatment offering better outcomes.​

In NZ, everyone is kept back for observation for 30 minutes after getting each jab and they are fully briefed as to possible side effects, including the symptoms of myocarditis. They are instructed to seek urgent medical help if they have any symptoms (chest pains, arrhythmia, shortness of breath, swelling of the legs, ankles and feet, fatigue, headache, body aches, joint pain, fever, a sore throat and diarrhoea).


Now I mean no disrespect toward this man, but how silly do you have to be to ignore that advice and those warning signs?
 
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First of all, Steve, thank you for your reply. I'll now drop that aspect lest future revelations become addressable.

Now I mean no disrespect toward this man, but how silly do you have to be to ignore that advice and those warning signs?

I postulate as silly as anyone who ignores mountains of legitimate evidence to invest their lives with beliefs of misinformation, particularly misinformation demonstrably substantiated as such.
 
You don't usually see people like this at any demonstrations against the fascist corona-regime.
You absolutely see people like this at anti-lockdown anti-mask anti-mandate demonstrations.

Experts unpick symbols and slogans at anti-COVID vaccination mandate protest in Perth

...At these rallies, nurses in scrubs, people in high-vis vests and parents with small children march alongside people in Donald Trump caps and QAnon t-shirts...


...In this photo, the Australian national flag and the red ensign flag, flown at sea by Australian merchant ships, lead the way across the bridge at Perth's Elizabeth Key.

But they're being flown upside down, which is a sign of extreme distress, according to University of South Australia law lecturer Joe McIntyre.

"It's a way of communicating: 'I am in intense distress,'" he said.

"There's this sense that, 'I know the truth. I am fighting a righteous battle to protect my country. Why can't anybody see how unlawful our governments are?'"

Under Australian national flag protocols, the flag should never be flown upside down.

But upside-down flags have been used around the world as a protest symbol, including at the Capitol Hill riot in Washington in January this year...


...But Dr McIntyre said the use of the red ensign by sovereign citizen groups could also be because it was associated with a time in history when the White Australia policy existed in Australia.

The Canadian alternative-right has also appropriated their country's red ensign.

"The sovereign citizens' movement in the US is historically white supremacist," he said...


...But some protesters have co-opted and adopted symbols and slogans from overseas, including supporters of former US president Donald Trump.

For example, on the right of the photo below, two people are wearing matching red "Make Australia Great Again" caps.

It's a local remake of Mr Trump's campaign slogan, which has been widely adopted by the anti-lockdown and anti-vaccine protest movements, including Clive Palmer's United Australia Party.

In the photo, a man is wearing a T-shirt of the QAnon conspiracy theory, based around a belief that the world is run by a global cabal of Satan-worshipping paedophiles who control American politics and the media.

His T-shirt's slogan of "where we go one, we go all" is QAnon's rallying call.

Part of the pro-Trump conspiracy theory was that Mr Trump would expose the cabal, including Democrat politicians like US President Joe Biden and Hillary Clinton.

Dr Chilton said the anti-vaccination movement was alive with these kinds of theories...


...This sign uses symbols from Nazi Germany, including the deeply offensive use of the yellow star, which Jews were forced to wear.

In recent years, it has been used in the US by anti-vaccination protesters to symbolise oppression.

Dr Rich said the use of this symbol could indicate the involvement of white supremacist groups or just that people had created an alternate reality in their mind where this was appropriate...
Neo-nazi and white supremacist groups are absolutely at the core of anti-vaccination movements, not just in Australia but around the world. I've seen White Rose propaganda about town. I'll bet that you have, too. They're spreading the exact talking points that Childlike Empress has been repeating in this thread - bodily autonomy, freedoom from tyranny, masks and lockdowns don't work, the pandemic is a hoax... the correlations are direct, and obvious.

The White Rose, by the way, aren't just interested in spreading antivaccine propaganda. They are also strongly associated with flat earth conspiracies, Qanon, white supremacy and antisemitic holocaust denial. That's the team you're in bed with, Childlike Empress. How does that make you feel?
 
You absolutely see people like this at anti-lockdown anti-mask anti-mandate demonstrations.

Experts unpick symbols and slogans at anti-COVID vaccination mandate protest in Perth

Neo-nazi and white supremacist groups are absolutely at the core of anti-vaccination movements, not just in Australia but around the world. I've seen White Rose propaganda about town. I'll bet that you have, too. They're spreading the exact talking points that Childlike Empress has been repeating in this thread - bodily autonomy, freedoom from tyranny, masks and lockdowns don't work, the pandemic is a hoax... the correlations are direct, and obvious.

The White Rose, by the way, aren't just interested in spreading antivaccine propaganda. They are also strongly associated with flat earth conspiracies, Qanon, white supremacy and antisemitic holocaust denial. That's the team you're in bed with, Childlike Empress. How does that make you feel?

I think all of us here know exactly how that makes Childlike Empress feel.
 
AcesHigh,

I found a comment from you where you mentioned a glitch with your image host, but I did not find your comment in which you posted them. I see that JimBob (comment #3513 posted them, however.

I either take screenshots and post on Snipboard website (you just ctrl-v there and get the image link) or on Imgur.

It seems BOTH are not allowed by International Skeptics forum bot, as all images I posted were always removed by the forum bot. So I gave up.
 
I'm with the original White Rose and have never heard of your astroturf fringe group. Maybe read their pamphlets, they say a lot about the present.
There is no "original" White Rose, unless you're talking about the anti-Nazi resistance group during the War, which bears very little resemblance to the current incarnation. If you're with White Rose today, then you are a member of an antisemitic holocaust denying white supremacist group. Perhaps you might want to reconsider that.
 
you understand that showing the Roman salute in public is iillegal in Germany, right?

the Roman salute is not Roman at all. It was invented in the 18th century.

There is no ancient roman description of it and all ancient artwork displaying salute gestures, show nothing like it.
 
Lol. No true White Rose TM.


Of course there is. Read their pamphlets. First paragraph:

White Rose First Pamphlet said:
Nothing is so unworthy of a civilized nation as allowing itself to be "governed" without opposition by an irresponsible clique that has yielded to base instinct. It is certain that today every honest German is ashamed of his government. Who among us has any conception of the dimensions of shame that will befall us and our children when one day the veil has fallen from our eyes and the most horrible of crimes - crimes that infinitely outdistance every human measure - reach the light of day?
 
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