Cont: Corona Virus Conspiracy Theories Part IV

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Childlike Empress said:
It's a mixture of re-labeling of the common flu and the results of constant, ruthless fear-mongering since almost two years. The latter has psychosomatic effects.
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The "government is out to get you" fear mongering that you and your ilk are so vested in has been going on for a lot longer than 2 years. A little introspective application of the psychosomatic effects of your own fears could be beneficial.

Oh yeah, and this post I quoted is complete bs. And you know it.
 
Steve said:
The "government is out to get you" fear mongering that you and your ilk are so vested in has been going on for a lot longer than 2 years. A little introspective application of the psychosomatic effects of your own fears could be beneficial.
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There is no such thing as "the government". Surface clowns like the totally deranged "leaders" in "western" countries, like Joe Biden, Boris Johnson, Olaf Scholz, Mario Draghi, the miserable little wanna-be dictators in you happy police state colony, are not calling the shots. And you know it.™.
 
Childlike Empress said:
It's a mixture of re-labeling of the common flu and the results of constant, ruthless fear-mongering since almost two years. The latter has psychosomatic effects.
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Actually, most of the fear-mongering is coming from you. You are the only one Kremlin trembling in fear of a global fascist tovarich takeover.
Oh, and I will put in the now oligarchy obligatory request for evidence for your claims.
You will, of course, ignore it, but your constant and consistent refuseniks refusals to support your claims stack up and are noted:
Can psychosomatic effects account for excess deaths around the world, even in countries like Brazil, where the government narrative is that vodka Covid is not dangerous? Does the Internet Research Agency have a handy fact-sheet you can make use of?
 
Childlike Empress said:
There is no such thing as "the government". Surface clowns like the totally deranged "leaders" in "western" countries, like Joe Biden, Boris Johnson, Olaf Scholz, Mario Draghi, the miserable little wanna-be dictators in you happy police state colony, are not calling the shots. And you know it.™.
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I'll take Joe Biden over scum like Putin any day.
 
Childlike Empress said:
There is no such thing as "the government". Surface clowns like the totally deranged "leaders" in "western" countries, like Joe Biden, Boris Johnson, Olaf Scholz, Mario Draghi, the miserable little wanna-be dictators in you happy police state colony, are not calling the shots. And you know it.™.
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Right. It's the shape-shifting reptilian aliens that David Icke warned you about.

There's also no such thing as "medical science". Those millions of professionals world-wide telling us about the risks of COVID-19 and how best to mitigate the dangers are all just crisis actors following orders from the ulra-organized, virtually omniscient Jewish/reptile families that control everything.

And those millions of COVID-19 "deaths" were all just more shape-shifting alien reptiles giving really convincing performances, then returning to their own dimension. And their "families"? More crisis actors.

Truly, only the smartest person we've ever encountered could see such a fiendishly brilliant plot, cleverly disguised to appear as a ******* moronic, self-aggrandizing delusion to those of mere average intelligence.
 
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Childlike Empress said:
It's a mixture of re-labeling of the common flu and the results of constant, ruthless fear-mongering since almost two years. The latter has psychosomatic effects.
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I am disappointed that the smartest person anyone is ever likely to encounter posted something so stupid.
 
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Cosmic Yak said:
There have been several recorded cases of conspiracy theorists admitted to hospital with Covid, insisting literally to their dying breaths that they don't have Covid, they can't have Covid, because it doesn't exist, and demanding the doctors tell them what's really wrong with them.
Add to that the idea of 'vicsims' and 'crisis actors', which enables all specific cases to be handwaved away.
I have also been told that all tests for Covid are completely inaccurate, and so, for example, you can test positive if you have hayfever.
Lastly, let's not forget that, in their eyes, all the doctors and nurses are in on it, and so any diagnosis is instantly suspect.
It's essentially an elaborate means of denying reality, even if that reality is literally killing you.
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This is a good example of the suckers -- those who actually believe the FUD and disinfo they're being spoonfed, but it gets a lot worse. It's no secret that Russia is actively spreading disinfo to undermine the West. Between them and the scammers who will stoop to cash in on death and suffering, I think no amount of condemnation and contempt is enough, and that's why I'll never be quiet about this.
 
Vienna assplodes!

Gigantic eructations in Australian capital! Tens of thousands! Streets impossible! Kafe! Klatsch! Torte!

Yeah, well. Has the MSM covered it? Are you seeing it on your feed? Your TV? Turn on your radio (how quaint!) and try if you can hear about it! Nothing, right?

That proves it! The absence of evidence is conclusive! If they wanted you simpletons to hear anything -- oh, you would, you WOULD!

I looked at a deutsch live channel from that other town CE (PBUHim) told about. Cops everywhere! Hardly a civvie in sight! All behind barb wire by now, you can be sure!

Me & CE are sure.
 
Childlike Empress said:
It's a mixture of re-labeling of the common flu and the results of constant, ruthless fear-mongering since almost two years. The latter has psychosomatic effects.
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Where I live, at least, the death rate has climbed by quite a bit, and the infection rate by more than quite a bit, while statistics for flu, long kept, have remained in effect. So even if you were right that Covid is a hoax and really just flu, it would be woefully inaccurate to call it "common flu," since it clearly is a much greater killer than the common flu has been for a very long time. I think you're entirely wrong, but even if you were not, you'd be very wrong indeed to call this "common."

As for the idea of a psychosomatic effect, aside from there being no evidence that it exists, it ought to be fairly obvious that the people most afraid of Covid are the ones who get vaccinated, mask, and isolate, and that a preponderant number of those who get it and die are those who are not afraid of it. The press abounds with people who deny to their last dying breath that it exists, so how can the psychosomatic effect be the same for people who deny it as for people who acknowledge it? It's an equal-opportunity killer.
 
Childlike Empress said:
There is no such thing as "the government". Surface clowns like the totally deranged "leaders" in "western" countries, like Joe Biden, Boris Johnson, Olaf Scholz, Mario Draghi, the miserable little wanna-be dictators in you happy police state colony, are not calling the shots. And you know it.™.
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Well it seems you already worship a fully deranged dictator running a police state and calling the shots. No wanna-be required. And indeed no government worthy of the name.

Now, about that introspective look at your own psychosomatic reaction following the many years of your own abject fear of western democracy that almost literally jumps out of this post.....
 
bruto said:
Where I live, at least, the death rate has climbed by quite a bit, and the infection rate by more than quite a bit, while statistics for flu, long kept, have remained in effect. So even if you were right that Covid is a hoax and really just flu, it would be woefully inaccurate to call it "common flu," since it clearly is a much greater killer than the common flu has been for a very long time. I think you're entirely wrong, but even if you were not, you'd be very wrong indeed to call this "common."
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Where I live, death rates are down and "infection" rates are up - due to excessive "testing" with the moronic PCR-Test by Dr. Osten. Statistics for flu have shown an over 95% decline in 2020. No excess mortatility at all for 2020. Excess mortality has started since the "vaccination" campaign and is now a real thing.

bruto said:
As for the idea of a psychosomatic effect, aside from there being no evidence that it exists, it ought to be fairly obvious that the people most afraid of Covid are the ones who get vaccinated, mask, and isolate, and that a preponderant number of those who get it and die are those who are not afraid of it. The press abounds with people who deny to their last dying breath that it exists, so how can the psychosomatic effect be the same for people who deny it as for people who acknowledge it? It's an equal-opportunity killer.
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Going back to that crooked "mayor" of Hamburg, it has just srfaced that his claim that over 90% of "COVID"-patients in intensive care units are "unvaccinated" was completely false. Fact is that over 60% of patients had an "unknown" vaccination status (if you can believe that), and all of them were automatically counted as "unvaccinated". Updated numbers say that around 14% of the "COVID"-patiens in ICUs were "unvaccinated". Which is below the actual number of "unvaccinated" in Germany. Certainly one reason for the huge masses protesting today in Hamburg.

A similar "scandal" happened in Bavaria and I'm sure in other places of the world. The whole idiocy of "the pandemic of the unvaccinated" has been debunked. That's why they now come up with the "moronic" variant. Notice that all those slogans are handed top-down and are parroted in several languages in the relevant countries.
 
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Cosmic Yak said:
Apologies if this has been discussed before- if I missed that, then do please link me to the right place.
I'm also placing this in CTs, rather than science, as I think it is more suitable here. Again, I'm happy to have it moved if that's what is determined.
There's this study by Norman Fenton about vaccines, in which he claims that, due to inaccurate and incomplete data recording in the UK, an incorrect picture of vaccine efficacy is being painted. He says, basically, that there's no essential difference between vaccinated and unvaccinated people in terms of hospitalisations and deaths. This is being taken as meaning that the vaccination programme should be halted.
There's a fair amount of maths and sciency stuff in here, which is beyond my own ability to understand and critique. I was wondering if anyone else here had seen this, and could give some input on it?
I note that it does not yet appear to have been peer reviewed, so I can't find any reports in the web about it.
https://www.researchgate.net/public...cannot_be_trusted_and_what_we_can_do_about_it
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This is my phase plot of hospital admissions vs cases (by specimen date) and both against time from Sept 2020 to Dec 15th 2021 for London.

[IMGW=640]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FG6aRPJX0AMWxFB?format=png&name=large[/IMGW]

After a long time bumping along in the third wave, things are starting to take off again.

ETA: You can see how vaccination has made the third wave less dangerous per case than the second
 
Of course, Germany had lots and lots of excess deaths in 2020 and 2021. It was more than 25% over the expected number of deaths per week during this time last year, and we are seeing the same pattern again to end 2021 - over 25% excess deaths per week. The weekly expected death numbers were greater than 0 almost every week since Spring of 2020.

https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/coronavirus-excess-deaths-tracker
 
carlitos said:
Of course, Germany had lots and lots of excess deaths in 2020 and 2021. It was more than 25% over the expected number of deaths per week during this time last year, and we are seeing the same pattern again to end 2021 - over 25% excess deaths per week. The weekly expected death numbers were greater than 0 almost every week since Spring of 2020.

https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/coronavirus-excess-deaths-tracker
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Complete bollocks you parrot from the controlled media you consume/google. No excess mortatility in 2020 in Germany if you do proper statistics (with the official data). You have to adjust for population growth and aging of society etc. Learn something carlitos:

https://bittel.tv/wp-content/uploads/simple-file-list/Deutschland-29.09.2021.pdf
 
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Wasn't it Churchill who said "never trust a statistic you haven't forged yourself?".

The official data comes from the RKI, allegedly known as "Robert Koch Institute", but for extremely bright people like myself better known as the "Ruthless Kartel Institute". Although the basic work is professional. It's just that the veterinarian "in charge" of it goes on stage, with the report in his hand, and lies about the data of his own institute. Lothar Wieler is one of the main culprits in the plandemic nonsense on German soil and will end up in prison where he belongs.
 
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Childlike Empress said:
Complete bollocks you parrot from the controlled media you consume/google. No excess mortatility in 2020 in Germany if you do proper statistics (with the official data). You have to adjust for population growth and aging of society etc. Learn something carlitos:

https://bittel.tv/wp-content/uploads/simple-file-list/Deutschland-29.09.2021.pdf
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Let's just look at the raw numbers by week.
[imgw=640]http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/imagehosting/1449461be479c2330f.png[/imgw]



Germany did well in the first wave but by 2021 it is not the case.

ETA: Germany is also far better than the UK, for example

[imgw=640]http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/imagehosting/1449461be490410c20.png[/imgw]
 
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