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Cont: Cancel culture IRL Part 2

SuburbanTurkey said:
Well, dude's got a union, the only real antidote to "cancel culture" real or imagined.

I'm willing to make a compromise with right wing reactionaries, I'll pretend "cancel culture" is a real menace if their response is to unionize their workplaces to prevent arbitrary firings.
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Yeah, this is my point. We see a lot of right-wingers angrily stamping their feet about people being let go from their jobs, and yet few of them seem to care about making their jobs more secure through unions.

If John McWhorter writes that the antitode to Woke Racism is unions, then I would be pretty happy. If his answer is to just constantly rile up voters until they turn out for the GOP, I would be less so.

Darat said:
And for anyone over the age of 35 it is obviously a rehash of "political correctness gone mad", the previous right-wing fearmongering strawman.
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Oh, indeed. This is pretty obvious.

Pick a year, open the Daily Mail and you will find the pages melting with warnings that the world is going to hell in a handbasket because of lefties...
 
angrysoba said:
Pick a year, open the Daily Mail and you will find the pages melting with warnings that the world is going to hell in a handbasket because of lefties...
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Yeah, we gotta step it up. Really going to work hard to make 2022 the year we do a big Cultural Marxism on everyone. Do your part for a grimmer tomorrow!
 
Doing a state censorship to fight cancel culture:

A Trump-adoring sheriff in Michigan is pursuing criminal charges against a Howell woman who called out anti-maskers on Twitter, drawing sharp criticism from legal experts.

Livingston County Sheriff Mike Murphy investigated the tweets and handed the case over to prosecutors in hopes of initiating charges against Kasey Helton.



Activists and legal experts were aghast at the sheriff's actions, saying he is attacking Helton’s free speech rights.

In the tweets, Helton took aim at anti-mask nurses who spread misinformation about COVID-19 and the effectiveness of face coverings at local board meetings.
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https://www.metrotimes.com/news-hits/archives/2021/12/15/trump-supporting-michigan-sheriff-wants-charges-filed-against-woman-who-criticized-anti-maskers

Michigan seems to have laws criminalizing non-threatening speech, which seems to be unconstitutional on its face. Apparently these comments can result in a felony charge:

Kasey posted a video of the woman speaking at the meeting and wrote, “I’d like you to meet Nurse Rebecca Skoczylas … who spread misinformation” at a school board meeting.

“I’m calling her Nurse E.Coli b/c she’s full of ��,” Kasey tweeted.

In another tweet, she referred to one of the nurses as a “dangerous RN sponsored by Schoolcraft College” and a “pathetic purveyor of health misinformation.”

None of the tweets contained a threat.
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SuburbanTurkey said:
Doing a state censorship to fight cancel culture:



https://www.metrotimes.com/news-hits/archives/2021/12/15/trump-supporting-michigan-sheriff-wants-charges-filed-against-woman-who-criticized-anti-maskers

Michigan seems to have laws criminalizing non-threatening speech, which seems to be unconstitutional on its face. Apparently these comments can result in a felony charge:
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Just so we are clear:

Twitter banning users for what they say on Twitter that violate the TOS violates the 1st amendment.

But the sheriff arresting people for what they say on Twitter is just fine.
 
SuburbanTurkey said:
Doing a state censorship to fight cancel culture:

https://www.metrotimes.com/news-hits/archives/2021/12/15/trump-supporting-michigan-sheriff-wants-charges-filed-against-woman-who-criticized-anti-maskers

Michigan seems to have laws criminalizing non-threatening speech, which seems to be unconstitutional on its face. Apparently these comments can result in a felony charge:
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This seems bad, but let's not overreact. We need to keep our focus on the real problem.

Sure, agents of the state are actively using their power and authority to suppress free speech, but a handful of college professors lost their jobs, and Dr. Seuss has been cancelled, and also that MMA lady doesn't get to play Star Wars anymore.
 
d4m10n said:
I haven't seen anyone make this argument here on ISF. Have you?

Same question.
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I think he's paraphrasing certain people who have a blind spot in regards to this obvious double standard, not people here.

People with orange hair, or those who worship them.
 
johnny karate said:
Check with Fox News or other outlets that share your concerns about "cancel culture".
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Will do. In the meanwhile, it seems a bit bizarre to condescendingly address people who aren't actually reading along. Weird flex, as it were. Sort of like stabbing a scarecrow and then gloating about how they won't fight back.

ETA: Do you happen to know what my concerns actually are re: cancel culture?
 
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d4m10n said:
Will do. In the meanwhile, it seems a bit bizarre to condescendingly address people who aren't actually reading along. Weird flex, as it were. Sort of like stabbing a scarecrow and then gloating about how they won't fight back.
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I'm not sure it was addressed to certain people so much as it was to the topic itself. If you want to stick your head in the sand and pretend that the hypocrisy referred to isn't part of the anti-"cancel culture" culture, go right ahead. But it is.

ETA: Do you happen to know what my concerns actually are re: cancel culture?
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Feel free to provide a succinct and specific list of your concerns.
 
johnny karate said:
I'm not sure it was addressed to certain people so much as it was to the topic itself. If you want to stick your head in the sand and pretend that the hypocrisy referred to isn't part of the anti-"cancel culture" culture, go right ahead. But it is.



Feel free to provide a succinct and specific list of your concerns.
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Context is for dweebs. We should all pretend this "cancel culture" thing is actually a serious line of thought derived from Frist Principles, instead of what it clearly is revealing itself to be through how these ideas get expressed as run-of-the-mill right wing censorship and revisionism.

You see, we must treat these ideas with tremendous seriousness and curiosity, despite overwhelming evidence that literally nobody wielding the term as a cudgel gives a single bit about being honest.
 
SuburbanTurkey said:
Context is for dweebs. We should all pretend this "cancel culture" thing is actually a serious line of thought derived from Frist Principles, instead of what it clearly is revealing itself to be through how these ideas get expressed as run-of-the-mill right wing censorship and revisionism.

You see, we must treat these ideas with tremendous seriousness and curiosity, despite overwhelming evidence that literally nobody wielding the term as a cudgel gives a single bit about being honest.
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Yes, a sober lesson we all learned from Johnny Depp when he told us about the horrors of being "cancelled" while accepting a lifetime achievement award in front of an adoring audience.
 
d4m10n said:
Will do. In the meanwhile, it seems a bit bizarre to condescendingly address people who aren't actually reading along. Weird flex, as it were. Sort of like stabbing a scarecrow and then gloating about how they won't fight back.

ETA: Do you happen to know what my concerns actually are re: cancel culture?
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Iirc, people online are sometimes acting on information without due consideration.

I have to say, it doesn’t real sound catchy enough for a cult or deep enough for a Dylan song. Maybe you can make it into some sort of meme?
 
johnny karate said:
If you want to stick your head in the sand and pretend that the hypocrisy referred to isn't part of the anti-"cancel culture" culture, go right ahead.
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I don't recall making a thread about anti-"cancel culture" culture, whatever that means.

Also, if you don't know what my concerns are, feel free not to reference them.
 
SuburbanTurkey said:
We should all pretend this "cancel culture" thing is actually a serious line of thought derived from Frist Principles, instead of what it clearly is revealing itself to be through how these ideas get expressed as run-of-the-mill right wing censorship and revisionism.
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Which of my objections (to canceling folks like Kroger Andy and Gelato Andy) have been rooted in right-wing censorship?
 
d4m10n said:
Which of my objections (to canceling folks like Kroger Andy and Gelato Andy) have been rooted in right-wing censorship?
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Ironically, they are actually anti-free-market. Clients complain and it has consequences.
Employers make decisions based on client dollars.

Why do you hate capitalism?
 
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