General UK politics

[GlennB]

Not here. You require an actual medical certificate.

We went into a restaurant today, within another store. Masks checked at door (and people were refused entry), sanitiser in one of the free-standing dispensers, certs checked before being allowed into restaurant, with photo ID, name and contact number taken.

Where is here ?

 

[Darat]

Johnson making a 8pm statement, now don’t want you to panic and think the poor man was having to work a Sunday, it is pre-recorded.

 

[Andy_Ross]

Not here. You require an actual medical certificate.

We went into a restaurant today, within another store. Masks checked at door (and people were refused entry), sanitiser in one of the free-standing dispensers, certs checked before being allowed into restaurant, with photo ID, name and contact number taken.

Not in the UK then. There is no requirement other than self declaring. It doesn't even have to be a medical issue 'causing anxiety' when wearing o9ne is enough for you to exempt yourself.

 

[Andy_Ross]

8pm tonight Boris will deliver a televised address to the nation 'to provide an update on the booster vaccine program', Downing Street have said.

It will be a pre-recorded statement, not a press conference.

Presumably pre-recorded because he'll be ********* by 8pm and not a press conference because he's a coward.

 

[Andy_Ross]

It’ll be on Zoom, and if you could all check you’ve got pen and paper ready for the lightning round.

 

[Worm]

Pre-recorded, but they couldn't take the time to re-take afer a stumble over the word 'varient', find a comb, or clean his suit, properly. Very reassuring.

 

[catsmate]

Where is here ?

Dublin, the one in Ireland.

 

[zooterkin]

Went to a gig the other night, and while it started out a little uncetain, with quite a few people not wearing masks - largely becasue they'd been to the bar and didn't want to keep taking off the mask to have a drink - by the end, it looked like about 75% of people were unmasked. Not great.

The gigs I've been to in the last few weeks have had x% masked, where I'm the x%. Tonight was an exception, with possibly 50% or higher masked for at least some of the time.

 

[Andy_Ross]

Jacob Rees-Mogg tweeted
@Jacob_Rees_Mogg
· 5h
England has a marvellous history of saints. At the most recent Business Questions I was delighted to be able to mark the feast of St Æthelgifu, the daughter of Alfred the Great.

 

[The Don]

Jacob Rees-Mogg tweeted
@Jacob_Rees_Mogg
· 5h
England has a marvellous history of saints. At the most recent Business Questions I was delighted to be able to mark the feast of St Æthelgifu, the daughter of Alfred the Great.

If there's one thing you can be sure of, it's that Jacob Rees-Mogg has his finger on the pulse and understands the concerns of the person in the street during a pandemic.

 

[Worm]

It also seems to be a bit off.

Æthelgifu, Abbess of Shaftesbury, was the daughter of King Alfred, but was never elevated to sainthood as far as I can tell.

St Æthelgifu was the daughter of a woman called Wynnflæd, but her father is unknown. She became Queen Consort when she married King Edmund (a grandson of Alfred). Her feast day is 18 May.

Æthelred, Edmund's grandson, also married a woman called Æthelgifu (of York). (much like everyone in my family seems to have married someone called Mary). Also not a saint.

ETA: ah, might have found her. Catholic sources seem to refer to her as St. Ethelgiva - daughter of Alfred. Though I can't find much actual detail.

So both Alfred's daughter, and his granddaughter-in-law were saints? Cash for sainthood?

 

[Darat]

It also seems to be a bit off.

Æthelgifu, Abbess of Shaftesbury, was the daughter of King Alfred, but was never elevated to sainthood as far as I can tell.

St Æthelgifu was the daughter of a woman called Wynnflæd, but her father is unknown. She became Queen Consort when she married King Edmund (a grandson of Alfred). Her feast day is 18 May.

Æthelred, Edmund's grandson, also married a woman called Æthelgifu (of York). (much like everyone in my family seems to have married someone called Mary). Also not a saint.

Seems his scholarship was up to his usual standards.

 

[Lothian]

ETA: ah, might have found her. Catholic sources seem to refer to her as St. Ethelgiva - daughter of Alfred. Though I can't find much actual detail.

So both Alfred's daughter, and his granddaughter-in-law were saints? Cash for sainthood?

I, for one, am happy that Ress-Mogg getting something right would be a miracle which justifies her being beatified

 

[Nessie]

It also seems to be a bit off.

Æthelgifu, Abbess of Shaftesbury, was the daughter of King Alfred, but was never elevated to sainthood as far as I can tell.

St Æthelgifu was the daughter of a woman called Wynnflæd, but her father is unknown. She became Queen Consort when she married King Edmund (a grandson of Alfred). Her feast day is 18 May.

Æthelred, Edmund's grandson, also married a woman called Æthelgifu (of York). (much like everyone in my family seems to have married someone called Mary). Also not a saint.

ETA: ah, might have found her. Catholic sources seem to refer to her as St. Ethelgiva - daughter of Alfred. Though I can't find much actual detail.

So both Alfred's daughter, and his granddaughter-in-law were saints? Cash for sainthood?

I want a typewriter that types "Æ".

 

[Andy_Ross]

The government is launching what it says will be "common sense" reforms to the Human Rights Act that will "restore confidence" in the legal system.
The proposals commit to staying within the European Convention on Human Rights, despite pressure from some Conservatives to leave the treaty.
Justice Secretary Dominic Raab says the plans will prevent a right to family life being abused by foreign criminals.
And he wants to make it easier for judges to ignore European counterparts.

Mr Raab said: "Our plans will strengthen typically British rights like freedom of speech and trial by jury, while preventing abuses of the system and adding a healthy dose of common sense."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-59646684

 

[The Don]

Common sense, another of those phrases with a declension.....

I have common sense
You have strongly held opinions
He is a bigoted bastage....

 

[Mojo]

The gigs I've been to in the last few weeks have had x% masked, where I'm the x%. Tonight was an exception, with possibly 50% or higher masked for at least some of the time.

I notice that now that people can be fined for not wearing a face covering on public transport, almost all of the 25-30% of people who were previously too ill to wear a mask have miraculously got better.

 

[Mojo]

Heard on “BBC Breakfast” this morning:

INTERVIEWER: What are you now doing to entice people into the industry, to come to the hotel?

INTERVIEWEE: Well firstly we’ve increased all of our entry-level pay to the national living wage…

 

[Darat]

The government is launching what it says will be "common sense" reforms to the Human Rights Act that will "restore confidence" in the legal system.
The proposals commit to staying within the European Convention on Human Rights, despite pressure from some Conservatives to leave the treaty.
Justice Secretary Dominic Raab says the plans will prevent a right to family life being abused by foreign criminals.
And he wants to make it easier for judges to ignore European counterparts.

Mr Raab said: "Our plans will strengthen typically British rights like freedom of speech and trial by jury, while preventing abuses of the system and adding a healthy dose of common sense."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-59646684

If this happens I'm going to sigh with relief as it is going to be like the "reforms" to self-defence legislation which the Tories campaigned on and made such a song and dance about and when in power didn't change a thing because those rights already existed for hundreds of years in the English and Welsh legal systems.

I would like to say how astonishing it is that one lie by one home secretary has cemented in the idea of "foreign folk have a cat and we can't deport them because of their right to a family life", but I'm no longer astonished I am despondent.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-15160326
https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/t...-rights-shes-lying-now-nick-clegg-warns-70581

 

[The Don]

If this happens I'm going to sigh with relief as it is going to be like the "reforms" to self-defence legislation which the Tories campaigned on and made such a song and dance about and when in power didn't change a thing because those rights already existed for hundreds of years in the English and Welsh legal systems.

I would like to say how astonishing it is that one lie by one home secretary has cemented in the idea of "foreign folk have a cat and we can't deport them because of their right to a family life", but I'm no longer astonished I am despondent.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-15160326
https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/t...-rights-shes-lying-now-nick-clegg-warns-70581

The trouble is that alongside banning bendy bananas, classifying British sausages as "offal sticks" and banning sport fishing, it's the kind of thing that people want to believe is true because it aligns with their own misconceptions of the EU (gained from decades of misinformation from government and the media )