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Kyle Rittenhouse, accused multi-murderer from Kenosha BLM shooting
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plague311
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Steven Crowder I will definitely say is a **** bag. I can't stand that guy.
webfusion
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Plague3111, it's a free country, you aren't required to watch the interview. Change the channel.
There was one question & answer that caught my attention -- it's been bugging me all along.
He DID clear the jam of his weapon, but NOT by racking the slide. He used the forward assist, right after he shot Huber the next bullet didn't load properly and he noticed that malfunction, and this action probably saved his life, as Grosskreutz approached with the gun in hand.
38:58 in the video he reveals this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dx9XTJ5lu2c
Another amazing part of the interview starts at 50:30 -- Crowder speaks (from his heart) about what transpired. I totally agree with his view. Kyle is not gloating.
There was one question & answer that caught my attention -- it's been bugging me all along.
He DID clear the jam of his weapon, but NOT by racking the slide. He used the forward assist, right after he shot Huber the next bullet didn't load properly and he noticed that malfunction, and this action probably saved his life, as Grosskreutz approached with the gun in hand.
38:58 in the video he reveals this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dx9XTJ5lu2c
Another amazing part of the interview starts at 50:30 -- Crowder speaks (from his heart) about what transpired. I totally agree with his view. Kyle is not gloating.
Chris_Halkides
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What was going through Mr. Grosskreutz's mind
Two quotes from the Chicago Tribune link that I previously provided:
"He also testified he had not positioned himself in a way that suggested he intended to shoot."
He denied that he wanted to fire at Mr. Rittenhouse, and I see no reason to doubt him.
"“It’s not the kind of person I am,” Grosskreutz said. “It’s not why I was out there. It’s not why I was out there for 75 days prior to that. Why I, up until that time, spent my time, money, my education providing care for people. It’s not who I am. And definitely not somebody that I would want to become.”"
Two quotes from the Chicago Tribune link that I previously provided:
"He also testified he had not positioned himself in a way that suggested he intended to shoot."
He denied that he wanted to fire at Mr. Rittenhouse, and I see no reason to doubt him.
"“It’s not the kind of person I am,” Grosskreutz said. “It’s not why I was out there. It’s not why I was out there for 75 days prior to that. Why I, up until that time, spent my time, money, my education providing care for people. It’s not who I am. And definitely not somebody that I would want to become.”"
Well, Mr. "I didn't intend to shoot despite pointing my Glock" now has a gimp-ass arm, for life. All while trying to attack someone who was defending themself. "Medic!!!"
LMAO.
rockinkt
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Why in the heck was he illegally carrying a concealed handgun? Was it to fire in the air when the groom kissed the bride?
He got shot before he could shoot. Period.
theprestige
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"What was going through Mr. Grosskreutz's mind"? Seriously? That's your claim?
Anyway, he deployed the "that's not who I am" non-apology, so I default to assuming he's full of it.
webfusion
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Speaking of Mr. Grosskreutz's state of mind --- His bearded buddy, Jacob Marshall, lied through his teeth on the stand. IMO.
Also, IMO, Marshall's original social media posting was most likely an accurate description of Gaige's state of mind. Marshall then attempted to walk it back, deleting the post, and then declaring he made up the essence of that quote at the hospital, and Gaige never said such a thing.
I'm a non-believer. Color me skeptical.
Also, IMO, Marshall's original social media posting was most likely an accurate description of Gaige's state of mind. Marshall then attempted to walk it back, deleting the post, and then declaring he made up the essence of that quote at the hospital, and Gaige never said such a thing.
I'm a non-believer. Color me skeptical.
Ziggurat
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What else is he going to say? If he did intend to shoot Kyle, you think he’s going to confess under oath to attempted murder?
He has a million reasons to say he wasn’t going to shoot, regardless of the truth.
Fast Eddie B
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If, in fact, he felt he was firing to stop a shooting in progress, that’s hardly “attempted murder”.
plague311
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All this coming from the guy pissing and moaning about dancing on the graves of people. Your hypocrisy seriously knows no bounds.
At least you make it clear you don't practice what you preach. What a ******* joke.
At least I didn't invoke the "Schrondinger's Arm" meme. That would have been in poor taste, even as funny as it is.
plague311
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Oh, I get it. You're invoking it, but you're saying you aren't invoking it in order to actually invoke it.
Let me be the first to say, very witty. Care to cry some more about morons dying to COVID or did you pick up some No More Tears last night?
webfusion
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Why would he feel that there was an 'active shooter' at all? He knew several things about the actions of Kyle Rittenhouse, as he was proceeding along the street from the CarSource lot after the shooting of Joseph Rosenbaum.
1. He understood the crowd was shouting 'cranium him' -- which he understood indicated 'kill him' -- this meant that Kyle was in danger from the mob, unquestionably.
2. He literally approached right alongside Kyle for an on-camera live stream video and thus discovered he was heading for the police line at the corner, not too much farther along north on Sheridan Road.
3. He saw a guy knock Kyle in the head with a cement chunk/large rock, and then Huber came in to strike him with a skateboard (the first time), and Kyle fell to the ground.
4. He witnessed Maurice Freeland kick him in the head with a flying jump karate move.
It was at that point when Kyle opened fire in self-defense.
5. Huber had by this time retrieved the skateboard (which had flown out out of his hands during his first attack), and Huber resumed his aggression against the now-on-the-ground Kyle, striking a blow to his head, while simultaneously grabbing the weapon.
Gaige saw all of this happen, and then --
6. Another individual (never identified) was in close proximity and stopped his advance, raised his hands and Kyle did not shoot him. That individual backed away, while Gaige proceeded to come in closer, a Glock in his right hand.
7. Gaige likely thought the rifle had jammed/malfunctioned and was inoperative (he was correct, actually -- the weapon did jam after the shot into Huber's chest). Unfortunately for Gaige, he hesitated a moment, trying to get right up alongside Kyle for a head-shot.
That allowed Kyle to hit the forward-assist button on his AR15 and seat the cartridge in the chamber. That action probably saved his life.
All of this is on videos.
Thermal
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I am inclined to believe him. His gun was out because Kyle was actively shooting, Hell, he had just killed Huber right in front of him a second before. Would you keep your weapon holstered with an active shooter right smack in front of you?
But he didn't shoot Kyle from a few feet away, as he easily could have. Put yourself in GG's position: he walked right up facing a guy pointing a rifle at him that the dude had just killed a man with. Kyle was not bluffing. Then GG threw his hands up with the rifle pointed right at him. There is no reason to do this other than trying to subdue the gunman before anyone else got shot.
Keep in mind, GG didn't know all that we know. The only thing he knew at the time was that there was some kid running around with a rifle, and everyone was shouting that he just killed someone. Then the kid actually does so right in front of GG.
There was absolutely no reason for Grosskreutz to put himself at this extreme risk if his intent was to shoot. Period.
And he did not "point the gun" at Rittenhouse. As GG lowered his hands, it pointed in Kyle's direction for a fraction of a second on the way down. Freaking nanosecond ****. They had to rely on a still photo to convince everyone, because it happened too fast for the eye to see.
Grosskreutz was a flaming idiot on the stand. Not everyone performs well, I suppose.
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Thermal, you're making excuses for Gaige Grosskreutz?
1. He did not unholster his Glock after or as reaction to the Huber shooting.
He took it from it's concealed location in his waistband behind his back, much earlier in the scene, before Kyle Rittenhouse had fired a single bullet there on Sheridan Road.
That is on video, and was presented at trial.
2. You overlooked the fact that the individual right ahead of Gaige did NOT get shot, because he stopped advancing and indicated to Kyle that he was standing down.
That is on video, and was presented at trial.
3. That freakin' nanosecond of hesitation on Gaige's part, while he was lowering the gun to Kyle's head, was all Kyle needed to ascertain what was about to happen to his brain.
His gun jam was now cleared with the forward-assist and a nano-second later, Gaige was disarmed.
1. He did not unholster his Glock after or as reaction to the Huber shooting.
He took it from it's concealed location in his waistband behind his back, much earlier in the scene, before Kyle Rittenhouse had fired a single bullet there on Sheridan Road.
That is on video, and was presented at trial.
2. You overlooked the fact that the individual right ahead of Gaige did NOT get shot, because he stopped advancing and indicated to Kyle that he was standing down.
That is on video, and was presented at trial.
3. That freakin' nanosecond of hesitation on Gaige's part, while he was lowering the gun to Kyle's head, was all Kyle needed to ascertain what was about to happen to his brain.
His gun jam was now cleared with the forward-assist and a nano-second later, Gaige was disarmed.
<snicker>
webfusion
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There was absolutely no reason for Grosskreutz to put himself at this extreme risk if his intent was to shoot.
I have showed why he DID have reasons, and you derided my explanation as ridiculous.
Gaige was affiliated with a 'social justice' group called the People's Revolution Movement, and encouraging a civil war is part of their goals, which I linked to previously in this thread. See: {Post #1283}
Also -- https://www.wisconsinrightnow.com/2021/01/30/the-peoples-revolution/
I have showed why he DID have reasons, and you derided my explanation as ridiculous.
Gaige was affiliated with a 'social justice' group called the People's Revolution Movement, and encouraging a civil war is part of their goals, which I linked to previously in this thread. See: {Post #1283}
Also -- https://www.wisconsinrightnow.com/2021/01/30/the-peoples-revolution/
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