Moderated GNIS Search

[Cosmic Yak]

I suspect in this case "close enough" means "I drew a line and then looked at the map."

The Texas sharpie fallacy.

No. We've already seen that the lines go nowhere near where they're claimed to go, and through places that don't exist.
This crap was made up without any access or reference to a map, nor, it would seem, any logical or coherent rationale behind it.
No wonder the author wishes to remain anonymous.

 

[turingtest]

He sent me the following a few days ago in a PM.



Interesting that he seems not to have a name.

As long as he's nameless, he serves equally well as an "academic...expert at history of cryptology" authority for the CT or someone to blame for the idiocy of it, whichever is needed at any particular moment in the conversation. "This is possibly true according to my source" vs "I didn't say this, someone else did"- just another step in the passive-aggressive CT dance.

 

[bruto]

No. We've already seen that the lines go nowhere near where they're claimed to go, and through places that don't exist.
This crap was made up without any access or reference to a map, nor, it would seem, any logical or coherent rationale behind it.
No wonder the author wishes to remain anonymous.

I realize the line is broad and the definition of "on the line" is within a certain distance of it. I was just trying to be clever (with obviously limited success).

 

[Bubba]

by bruto View Post
Yes, they were, but not places in territory that had not yet been discovered or settled.

Exactly. That rules out both America and Australia, meaning none of Bubba's examples can be used.
This just keeps getting more bizarre.

Did someone say they did not carry on when those nations were in development?


Why did you apparently assume it was only done before then?

Doesnt it make more sense they'd be happy to play their name game on their new world ?

 

[junkshop]

He wrote:


Quote:
There's lethbridge Lake on Baffin Island¹- and Newfoundland²
A lethbridge in Alaska³
The Lethes is the river of forgetfulness in hades⁴
Possiblee a reference to Philalerhes*⁵
Lethbridge might go to San Francisco⁶ - I forget and don't have a map in front of me.
Baker Lake goes to Banersfjeld

¹ I can find no evidence of this.
² Likewise, I can find no evidence of this.
³ Again, I can find no evidence of this.
⁴ This has nothing to do with the etymology of the name 'Lethbridge' (see post #51).
⁵ See ⁴.
⁶ I can't even work out what this is supposed to mean.

...Apparently he traced place names back to origins, to find connections...

No, he didn't (see, once more, post #51)

Bubba's source for this nonsense is a moron.

 

[junkshop]

...Like I said, IMO there is raw data in what I convey from the guy.


When it goes over your head, someone else must be called a moron

Be it raw, roasted, baked, fried or flame grilled, it's still utter nonsense.

Please enlighten me, what was it about the moron's wibbling that 'went over my head'?

 

[carlitos]

I don't remember who said it here first, but it went something along the lines of:

I learned 2 things in the JREF conspiracy theory sub-forum:

• That people believe in crazy things, and
• That they are unable to clearly explain these crazy things

 

[Resume]

I don't remember who said it here first, but it went something along the lines of:

I learned 2 things in the JREF conspiracy theory sub-forum:

• That people believe in crazy things, and
• That they are unable to clearly explain these crazy things

It's sorta like the MDC applicants; they couldn't even advance a coherent description of their ability, much less provide evidence. This particular nonsense is the dog eating the dog that ate the evidence . . . in Canada.

 

[Pacal]

Since there is no Lethbridge AK, can you show us a lethbridge in Alaska as a geographical feature?* **

Thanks.



* Or do we have to wait for your guy?



** You know, the thread topic.

As I noted in post 1 I did a search of the GNIS, (Geographic Names Information System), and was unable to find a geographic feature called Lethbridge in Alaska or in fact the entire USA.

And from Bubba's comments it appears he was and is not interested in checking this out.

 

[Resume]

As I noted in post 1 I did a search of the GNIS, (Geographic Names Information System), and was unable to find a geographic feature called Lethbridge in Alaska or in fact the entire USA.

And from Bubba's comments it appears he was and is not interested in checking this out.

Yeah, it's been searched by multiple posters (including myself) and nothing has been found for a placename or a physical feature, thus the question.

 

[bruto]

I'm not sure any more what is being asserted and what denied, so perhaps Bubba could clarify.

As I understand it, an allegation was made that a line on a map, purporting to connect certain places, has significance.

A contrary assertion was made that at least one of the places cited does not exist.

To that, it appears that it was suggested that it might have existed once, or been something else, or perhaps had existed previously. The year 1492 was mentioned.

So Bubba, you clarify? We need not worry about just what the significance of the line is. But is there, in your opinion, a line? Does it, in your opinion, have a significance? Approximately when was this line established?

That would be a start to understanding what on earth is being talked about here.

 

[junkshop]

Hey there Bubba,

If/when you return to this thread, I'm still waiting for you to explain what 'went over [my] head' about your data from 'the guy'.

Look forward to hearing from you.

 

[Yalius]

I think I figured it out.

Lethbridge. Lethebridge. LetheBridge. Lethe Bridge.

A bridge over the River Lethe! River of Forgetfulness. Greek mythology says anyone who drank or bathed in the River Lethe would lose all memory. So anyone who discovers Lethbridge will forget about it. That's why there's no listing for a Lethbridge anywhere in Alaska, anyone who knows about it forgets it.

So no, it has no connection to Jerusalem. But according to legend it's located in Hades, near a cypress tree. Where do you find cypress trees? Florida! What else is in Florida? Disneyworld! There you go, proof positive that Walt Disney is behind a plot to make the entire world forget about Alaska, thus controlling the world oil supply and paving the way for a world governed entirely by cartoon mice.

 

[Foster Zygote]

I think I figured it out.

Lethbridge. Lethebridge. LetheBridge. Lethe Bridge.

A bridge over the River Lethe! River of Forgetfulness. Greek mythology says anyone who drank or bathed in the River Lethe would lose all memory. So anyone who discovers Lethbridge will forget about it. That's why there's no listing for a Lethbridge anywhere in Alaska, anyone who knows about it forgets it.

So no, it has no connection to Jerusalem. But according to legend it's located in Hades, near a cypress tree. Where do you find cypress trees? Florida! What else is in Florida? Disneyworld! There you go, proof positive that Walt Disney is behind a plot to make the entire world forget about Alaska, thus controlling the world oil supply and paving the way for a world governed entirely by cartoon mice.

I like the cut of your jib. How soon can you mimeograph this for distribution on the street corner?

 

[Craig4]

I think I figured it out.

Lethbridge. Lethebridge. LetheBridge. Lethe Bridge.

A bridge over the River Lethe! River of Forgetfulness. Greek mythology says anyone who drank or bathed in the River Lethe would lose all memory. So anyone who discovers Lethbridge will forget about it. That's why there's no listing for a Lethbridge anywhere in Alaska, anyone who knows about it forgets it.

So no, it has no connection to Jerusalem. But according to legend it's located in Hades, near a cypress tree. Where do you find cypress trees? Florida! What else is in Florida? Disneyworld! There you go, proof positive that Walt Disney is behind a plot to make the entire world forget about Alaska, thus controlling the world oil supply and paving the way for a world governed entirely by cartoon mice.

I so wish I didn't get drug tested so often.

 

[Pacal]

I think I figured it out.

Lethbridge. Lethebridge. LetheBridge. Lethe Bridge.

A bridge over the River Lethe! River of Forgetfulness. Greek mythology says anyone who drank or bathed in the River Lethe would lose all memory. So anyone who discovers Lethbridge will forget about it. That's why there's no listing for a Lethbridge anywhere in Alaska, anyone who knows about it forgets it.

So no, it has no connection to Jerusalem. But according to legend it's located in Hades, near a cypress tree. Where do you find cypress trees? Florida! What else is in Florida? Disneyworld! There you go, proof positive that Walt Disney is behind a plot to make the entire world forget about Alaska, thus controlling the world oil supply and paving the way for a world governed entirely by cartoon mice.

Just for the sheer "hell" of it, (Note the reference.), I looked up the word Lethe in the GNIS and found a Lethe river in Katmai park Alaska and a Lethe lake in Northeastern Minnesota.

Note Lethbridge seems to be a family name originating in Devon England, partly of Celtic origin. Lethe is a Greek word.

 

[Bubba]

If I'm wrong, I'm wrong.

I said as much when I said its not my theory, and I'm not interested in confirming it.

 

[Pacal]

Good ! You seem (easily) far wiser than insisting on "Lethbridge, Alaska" even though the term was "a Lethbridge in Alaska".

Note that rivers probably dont count, as they are not fixed features...like statues, hotels, municipal buildings, towns, cities, etc.

Lakes and ponds are good.


Is there a lake lethbridge on Baffin island?

or

lethbridge lake

.....?

The word Lethe seems to have nothing to do in terms of origin with the term Leth has in Lethbridge which seems to be Celtic and not Greek.

Aside from the fact Lethbridge originated has a family name in Devon England and Lethe is the name of a river in the Greek underworld.

I checked the Canadian Geographical Names Database (CGNDB) http://www4.nrcan.gc.ca/search-place-names/search according to it there is Lethbridge Lakes, Two very small lakes on Baffin Island next to each other. Named in 1951.

In Saskatchewan there is a Lethbridge Lake named in 2004. part of it is in the Northwest Territories.

There is a Lethbridge Road in the Province of NewFoundland and Labrador near the village of Lethbridge.

There is a Canadian Armed Forces training range called Lethbridge near Lethbridge Alberta.

There is a small lake called Lethbridge in Manitoba named in 2020.

All of those names seem to be allusions to Lethbridge Alberta or the Lethbridge family.

I find it interesting that it was very easy to check all this out and also that many of the names are late and postdate, with the possible exception of Lethbridge in New Foundland, the founding of Lethbridge Alberta.

I also find it interesting that in the USA the name Lethbridge is totally absent has a name of a habitation or a geographical feature which did quite surprise me.

 

[bruto]

If I'm wrong, I'm wrong.

I said as much when I said its not my theory, and I'm not interested in confirming it.

Not your theory, not interested in confirming it, yet you seem to have promoted it despite your indifference, and seem to be struggling in this thread to find confirmation, almost as if you were interested.

Saying that if you're wrong you're wrong is a start, but it is still a little leap to the finish, where you leave out the "if."

 

[Jack by the hedge]

BTW the guy said the French had their own version

I assume that means like the Brits, and in the same era.

Do we have any bounds for when this "era" supposedly covered?

I mean, if there were any actual examples, in English or French, we could tentatively date the era from what's known about when the various tons got their names. Lacking any, what does the originator of this tale imagine was the era involved?

I'm also curious about why Jerusalem gets involved. Is that explained?

The British and French did clash over the placement of imaginary lines on maps but that was the issue of prime meridians. Lots of nations had their own but each ran through their own capital city, not through Jerusalem. Eventually the British one at Greenwich observatory became the international standard. IDK if the French were pressing for Paris instead or for a neutral compromise but they weren't at all pleased when the Brit's standard was adopted.