As someone who hated Trump, I would still report someone at my kid's school who posted anything with ***** Trump” on it. Or even “Dump Trump”. Wrong place.
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As someone who hated Trump, I would still report someone at my kid's school who posted anything with ***** Trump” on it. Or even “Dump Trump”. Wrong place.
I am not religious, but I do recall the case. I think it is a little different than what I am talking about, and here is why: Hobby Lobby has a health insurance policy with certain benefits being restricted, due to Hobby Lobby's religious views. However, everyone gets the same insurance, no matter their religious beliefs. If they were providing different tier polices, based upon religious beliefs, that would be a major issue, imo.
I am referring to a situation where people might be treated differently, based upon their affiliations with certain social or political causes. I don't have a problem with such rules as, "no political or social agenda clothing". I have an issue when the company is very tolerant of popular leftist (or right) views, and openly shuns those who have alternative views. Or, when the rules are enforced in a seemingly biased manner.
Now, that being said, I don't feel there are grounds for a legal case at my workplace. And, of course, I can choose a different company if it really bothers me that much. It's just my personal observations, within my own company.
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Well, that is a fair and ideal approach. I'm just not convinced that it plays out in the real world like that, in many cases. In general, people tend to be more tolerant of views that they support.
I disagree. I think professionals often expect professionalism in their workplace.
Whew. I’m glad we could solve that one.
Of course it’s different, you don’t work at Hobby Lobby.
I feel that your discomfort is no more than the discomfort of non-fundamentalist employees of Hobby Lobby. And yes, your options are similar.
If HR is the only group that expects professionalism in your large company, then I hope I don’t own stock in your company.
If you think people aren't often inclined to be less tolerant of those with opposing beliefs, either watch the news, pick up a history book, or study psychology.
Human nature doesn't cease to exist when people arrive at work.
No, it's different than the Hobby Lobby case that you brought up, for the reasons I outlined.
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Well, "all lives matter" is just racist code for "**** black people", so yeah. It's a way for ******** to deny the issues being raised by pretending that "black lives matter" was intended to mean "only black lives matter", or even "black lives matter more", which was clearly never the intent.
Yes but the troll code of conduct decrees that the response will be to now pretend like that's not both objectively true and blazingly obvious and demand a "civil debate" about it where you prove it.
"Being showily intentionally faux-oblivious to my own trolling" is now the major form of trolling. This will be proven when every troll on this board responses to this, if they respond at all, but doing just that.
"All Lives Matter" is a racist statement. This is a fact and it is not up for honest debate.
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I disagree. And, it's not up for any debate.
There is probably another thread about how much "Black Lives Matter".
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Like I said. "This will be proven when every troll on this board responses to this, if they respond at all, but doing just that."
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I've always associated that with narcissism.
Yes, but you said you work for a very large company. Most very large companies have large groups of professionals. At least a small number of those professionals will act professional, in spite of their human nature. And my experience is that if HR is the most professional department in your company then your company has problems.
I’ve worked in distribution, manufacturing, oil field services and product development companies over my career and none of them were immune from the need for professionalism to be successful.
Law firms, on the other hand, tend to a bit more “do as we say, not as we do.” But they know how to CYA. And really, at the end of the day, that is a large he part of professionalism.
Hobby Lobby, an entity created by paperwork, has deeply held beliefs and views that courts will protect. So does your employer.
I’m sorry the analogy was so hard for you. I’m be more careful in the future.
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Given the substance of right wing political positions these days it becomes harder and harder to distinguish between trolling and people who honestly believe nonsense.
At some point the "rule of goats" controls so we stop caring and treat all it at face value.
I feel this sort of trolling the best expression of narcissism. Make the conversation about me, and my understanding, not the topic.
It's a grown up narcissist's version of a child who wants attention so bad they'll do something naughty just so mommy and daddy will yell at them because at least that's attention.
"They are talking about how I'm stupid and toxic, but at least they are talking about me! I triggered them! I'm in their heads rent free!"
"They are talking about how I'm stupid and toxic, but at least they are talking about me! I triggered them! I'm in their heads rent free!"