Cont: The Trump Presidency: Part 28

[Stacyhs]

I am just pointing out the hypocrisy of some. And that always strikes a chord with liberals.

 

[Stacyhs]

I know it's pure hypocrisy on my part, but let's feed the troll less.

I know you're right but I also can't resist giving my pudgy dog another bite of my dinner when I know I shouldn't.

 

[Aridas]

Yeah, sure.

There are 144 million taxpayers in the US, and with 1 out of 30 not even filing, that is 4.8 million people alone. That doesn't include all the people who file and cheat on deductions and such.

Again, you're not actually making much of a defense for your claims here. You look like you're just throwing crap against the wall and little more. As I said, it's quite plausible that the people you describe exist and, I'll add, no one seems to actually be disputing that. What's in dispute there is your claims of, for example, "a large portion" of a particular subset that you've not managed to actually link to any tax wrongdoing at all engaging in tax wrongdoing, based on unevidenced bias. Further, of course, you've refused to take the opportunity to narrow down any predicted range. I'll repeat, though, any percentage that would normally count as large is quite implausible and you've provided no argument or evidence that even remotely counters that.

Maybe only a few of those people are critical of Trump.

Or, maybe all of them are die-hard Trump supporters.

Or, maybe there are plenty of hypocrites out there.

Desperation doesn't make your argument more convincing.

 

[Warp12]

<denying obvious truth via smoke and mirrors>.

I love the effort, but it rings hollow.

You are seemingly trying to ride both sides of the fence in order to soothe your liberal audience. "Yeah, the number of hypocrites in the referenced pool is probably large, but that would depend on what the meaning of the word "is" is."

It's ok, such wordplay has famously been used in the past in an attempt to mask the obvious.

My position on the matter, and the resulting denial and apologism, stands.

 

[Aridas]

I love the effort, but it rings hollow.

You are seemingly trying to ride both sides of the fence in order to soothe your liberal audience. "Yeah, the number of hypocrites in the referenced pool is probably large, but that would depend on what the meaning of the word " is" is."

It's ok, such wordplay has famously been used in the past in an attempt to mask the obvious.

My position on the matter, and the resulting denial and apologism, stands.

Your refusal to actually make an argument that doesn't rely almost exclusively upon unevidenced bias and misrepresentation continues to be noted.

Whatever, though. May all of my fellow citizens of the US have a Happy Thanksgiving.

 

[Warp12]

Donald Trump Would Trounce Joe Biden If Election Was Held Again, Polls Suggest

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-trounce-joe-biden-election-held-again-polls-suggest-1653256

If valid, everyone should chuckle at these poll results.

Three years is plenty of time for Dems to get their act together, though. And maybe engage in some more well-timed witch hunts. My personal feeling is that by then, Trump will seem significantly less viable to voters. I am amazed he is still on their radar...but that just shows how hard Biden/Harris are currently sucking. You would think "Trump Fatigue" alone would be enough to sink him.

 

[The Don]

The poll was conducted at the request of Donald Trump's organisation so I'd look at the questions very carefully

 

[Warp12]

The poll was conducted at the request of Donald Trump's organisation so I'd look at the questions very carefully

Yeah, that's why I am a bit skeptical of the two polls they reference. I should say more than a bit.

 

[Crazy Chainsaw]

Yeah, that's why I am a bit skeptical of the two polls they reference. I should say more than a bit.

I think Mitch McCoverup has a plan to sink Trump after the 2022 Midterms and Rand Paul's Loss in the Senate.

 

[Craig4]

I think Mitch McCoverup has a plan to sink Trump after the 2022 Midterms and Rand Paul's Loss in the Senate.

After the mid terms is too late. The time to neutralize Trump is before the 2022 primaries begin. If it were in Mitch's power to sink Trump, he would have been able to keep the party in line on January 6th. Hell, he can't even keep Lindsey Graham from going to Florida and ****** Trump's ************ behind the sand hazard on the golf coast.

Dems aren't going to prioritize Kentucky's race for the Senate. They're going to target Wisconsin, Arizona, Pennsylvania, Florida and Georgia. They need to keep the two seats they won in 2020 and hit vulnerable or retiring Rs in 2022.

ETA: I think the Dems should try to hit Missouri too. McCaskill only lost to Hawelly 45 to 51 (ish) and Hawlley and some soft wins in the suburbs of Kansas City and St. Louis. A moderate, law and order Democrat could flip some of those suburban counties blue.

 

[Crazy Chainsaw]

After the mid terms is too late. The time to neutralize Trump is before the 2022 primaries begin. If it were in Mitch's power to sink Trump, he would have been able to keep the party in line on January 6th. Hell, he can't even keep Lindsey Graham from going to Florida and ****** Trump's ************ behind the sand hazard on the golf coast.

Dems aren't going to prioritize Kentucky's race for the Senate. They're going to target Wisconsin, Arizona, Pennsylvania, Florida and Georgia. They need to keep the two seats they won in 2020 and hit vulnerable or retiring Rs in 2022.

ETA: I think the Dems should try to hit Missouri too. McCaskill only lost to Hawelly 45 to 51 (ish) and Hawlley and some soft wins in the suburbs of Kansas City and St. Louis. A moderate, law and order Democrat could flip some of those suburban counties blue.

Who said anything about Dems causing Rand Paul to lose they haven't got a clue.

 

[newyorkguy]

The latest from donald trump jr. via Huffington Post.

Donald Trump Jr. continued to lean into the right-wing lionization of Kyle Rittenhouse with a doctored image showing his father, former President Donald Trump, presenting the teenage killer with the congressional Medal of Honor. “2024??? Who knows?” Trump Jr. son captioned the meme on his Instagram feed Monday. It’s unclear who first created the picture. HuffPost link

 

[newyorkguy]

This is another meme trump jr shared, back in March 2019, via Huffington Post:

Donald Trump Jr. attacked Democrats Tuesday by posting a Pornhub-style meme of his father online. President Donald Trump’s eldest son shared a doctored image, which purported to show his father as a thumbnail for a porn video as an Instagram story: Huff Post link

I am trying to think of a parallel with another top leader and his family -- I know no US President and family ever behaved this way before -- but is there another top leader somewhere in the world with a son who behaves this way?

 

[Aridas]

Who said anything about Dems causing Rand Paul to lose they haven't got a clue.

FWIW, if the Republican Party were actually a rational, upright, patriotic entity, Rand Paul should be gone, one way or another by then. On the other hand, if the Republican Party were such, Rand Paul should probably have been gone a while ago.

The latest from donald trump jr. via Huffington Post.

I see that Jr's classiness has remained the same.

 

[pgwenthold]

The idea that the President shouldn't be held to a higher standard than anyone else when it comes to tax collection, an area that he is directly responsible for enforcing, really highlights the level of corruption they're comfortable with

That's like the old, "Priests are no more likely to molest kids than non-priests, and no fair holding them to a higher standard" nonsense.

It's not holding them to a higher standard when they assume a position if higher standard.

The right wing is currently having a tizzy because Kamala Harris bought some fancy French cooking pan. They don't criticize anyone else. Where are the complaints of hypocrisy? Oh wait, that doesn't count, right?

 

[Crazy Chainsaw]

FWIW, if the Republican Party were actually a rational, upright, patriotic entity, Rand Paul should be gone, one way or another by then. On the other hand, if the Republican Party were such, Rand Paul should probably have been gone a while ago.



I see that Jr's classiness has remained the same.

Yes But the Southern Baptist of Kentucky Don't like being shown they are Hypocrites and Rand Paul can't win without tnem.

 

[Foster Zygote]

Well, since I'm not violating any laws I guess it's all right if I point a finger. Thanks for that anyway. I didn't say it's not as bad if we do it either. I think that if we do a crime we should be punished for it. But I think a president should not only not do the crime, he should be expected and trusted not to do it, especially in the areas where he is expected to be the enforcer of the law, and disqualified if he does. That is, I think, a higher standard, and one that he, by seeking the position, imposes on himself.

I think Warp is basing his arguments on the landmark 1982 SCOTUS decision in Denied It v. Supplied It. It's the decision that upheld the precedent established by the 1967 Indiana Supreme Court decision in Know You Are v. What Am I?.

 

[Aridas]

The right wing is currently having a tizzy because Kamala Harris bought some fancy French cooking pan. They don't criticize anyone else. Where are the complaints of hypocrisy? Oh wait, that doesn't count, right?

Much like how, for example, they criticized Mrs. Obama's travel expenses while utterly ignoring Mrs. Bush's much greater travel expenses? The right wing propaganda machine has long since weaponized their hypocrisy as they happily throw all kinds of crap at the wall and then just follow up with what generates greater engagement, rather than actually showing any real evidence of principled behavior. It gets them what they want, though - profit and keeping those that listen to them irrationally biased towards the GOP.

 

[BazBear]

Somehow people think that word erases evidence of hypocrisy and/or the endorsement of it. It doesn't. Neither does the word "trolling", I'm afraid. But hey, if you want to believe that nobody pointing a finger at Trump might be guilty of cheating on their taxes, despite stats that suggest you are very wrong, go right ahead.

The easy response was:

"Sure, a lot of people who condemn Trump over his tax filings probably cheat on their own taxes. That makes them complete hypocrites. But, it doesn't excuse Trump from any tax laws he may have violated."

But, no. Instead we have hand-wringing over the idea that such hypocrisy even exists. And somehow, even if it does, it is acceptable.

I wonder why that is?

Nice Strawman! Did you build it yourself?

 

[Craig4]

Yes But the Southern Baptist of Kentucky Don't like being shown they are Hypocrites and Rand Paul can't win without tnem.

Get a grip. Southern Baptists went for Trump in the South by 70 or the low 80s depending on the state. This is a guy who paid hush money to a porn start, admitted to groping women and if all his indiscretions had been carried to term, there would be a global onesie shortage. It's not like they didn't know all this going into 2016. Rand Paul gives them the judges they want and hits all their culture war buttons. Southern Baptists are largely morally bereft, cynical, sociopaths who don't give a flying **** about hypocrisy.