Cont: The Trump Presidency: Part 28

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Trump always reminded me of Mussolini. Same arrogant bully with a jutting jaw.
Hence, the perfect nickname for him -- "Cheeto Benito".

I don't have a problem with condemning the opinions of those who call for the death of a former or current President.

How about also condemning the opinions of those who call for the death of a former or current Vice-President?
 
This sure doesn't read like a condemnation of those calling for the death of Trump.

As a longstanding ISF member, I condemn those wishing summary execution on anyone, including our ex-President. But will defend their right to wish it.

How about also condemning the opinions of those who call for the death of a former or current Vice-President?

Yep. That too.
 
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I don't have a problem with condemning the opinions of those who call for the death of a former or current President.
Trump seems to think the rioters / insurrectionists of January 6th calling for the execution / death of Mike Pence weren't doing much wrong. I assume Warp from your righteous indignation here that you feel the same way about your ex-President with regards to not calling out people who advocate death or injury?
 
A lack of condemnation indicates acceptance.
No. Just no. If that sentence were true, condemning your assertions would become a full-time job for many of us.

When someone like Pixel42 has already explained what is wrong with an assertion, I seldom bother to add my own condemnation. In this thread, for example, Warp12's immediate condemnation of Norman Alexander's presumably earnest desire seemed adequate. On the other hand, when someone persists in repeating an allegation that deserves condemnation, as Warp12 has done, I sometimes think it is worthwhile to endorse the voices of reason.

And so I wholeheartedly endorse what Pixel42 says in the excerpts quoted below.

And no, a lack of condemnation does not indicate acceptance. There have been plenty of opinions posted here (including by you) which I have not condemned, even though I don't accept them.

I'm just disagreeing with your opinion that not explicitly condemning an opinion is the same as accepting it.
 
How about also condemning the opinions of those who call for the death of a former or current Vice-President?
That's totally different. They were also there to try to mass-murder most of Congress. If you're going to do something, you should go all the way, not do a half-ass it (or in this case around 0.001-0.002-ass it). The point was what spineless weenies we're being by thinking so small.
 
As expected. A lack of condemnation indicates acceptance. Not surprising as this is not nearly the first time ISF members have posted their hopes for the death of Trump.
Are you sure enough of that to apply that to everyone including yourself?

I do not call for the murder of anyone, loathsome ex-presidents included, although I would like to see him suffer consequences in life. However, it would be tedious to be required to condemn every stupid thing said here, including those I don't bother to read fully or take seriously. A standard like this, impartially applied, could prove troublesome.
 
This latest flap over a poster issuing a condemnation of certain ISF posters -but the poster issuing the condemnation is so selective on what they 'condemn' I find it to be meaningless. :thumbsup:
 
I'm becoming increasingly pessimistic that this thread will undergo a resurgence in November, 2024. Based on current indicators, the chances for the orange sphincter being either elected to or installed in the WH is too frighteningly possible for comfort. Lady Justice has got to get hustling. The mid-terms are looming, and the clock is ticking. It induces despondency to watch the rolling coup taking hold in State legislatures, the lethargic response of the Justice Dep't in dealing with the insurrection ring-leaders, and the festering stew of ignorance, stupidity, cultishness and nihilism that continues to support the wrecking of democracy.
 
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Trump seems to think the rioters / insurrectionists of January 6th calling for the execution / death of Mike Pence weren't doing much wrong. I assume Warp from your righteous indignation here that you feel the same way about your ex-President with regards to not calling out people who advocate death or injury?

Of course Trump should condemn those who would call for injury to Mike Pence. It is shameful not to.

Not sure of your point on that. You seem to be implying that I would give Trump a pass on it, or even one to those who were engaging in such rhetoric. Completely untrue.

As usual, though...the focus seems to be on everything but the original matter. Which is that someone here called for the public execution of Trump. Even going so far as to link photos of dead bodies. Some seem to be willing to go off on any tangent/topic in order to avoid condemning such a viewpoint. Very telling.
 
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That the president of the United States apparently encouraged rioters to injure execute members of the U.S. Government, including -- but not limited to -- that president's own vice president, was not very nice. But it pales in comparison to a poster on a small message forum calling for the public execution of that president, even if only jokingly. That is REALLY REALLY BAD!!!! ;)
 

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That the president of the United States apparently encouraged rioters to injure execute members of the U.S. Government, including -- but not limited to -- that president's own vice president, was not very nice. But it pales in comparison to a poster on a small message forum calling for the public execution of that president, even if only jokingly. That is REALLY REALLY BAD!!!! ;)

I don't get your position? You are making some fairly outrageous claims, but as I stated already, of course I would condemn such actions.

It just so happens that I am reading this thread, and the topic is about someone here calling for the public execution of Trump. Your commentary seems to be going off on a different tangent, without addressing the original topic. Just as I mentioned here:

As usual, though...the focus seems to be on everything but the original matter. Which is that someone here called for the public execution of Trump. Even going so far as to link photos of dead bodies. Some seem to be willing to go off on any tangent/topic in order to avoid condemning such a viewpoint. Very telling.
 
That the president of the United States apparently encouraged rioters to injure execute members of the U.S. Government, including -- but not limited to -- that president's own vice president, was not very nice. But it pales in comparison to a poster on a small message forum calling for the public execution of that president, even if only jokingly. That is REALLY REALLY BAD!!!! ;)

Even the GOP hopes that Trump cheats at golf once too often and gets a driver through his skull. They'd love to be done with him.
 
That's the topic you choose to focus on. What do you think that choice tells others about you?

Uhhh...that I don't think it is cool to wish death upon a former or current President?

What is the other interpretation?
 
Uhhh...that I don't think it is cool to wish death upon a former or current President?

What is the other interpretation?
You've slightly changed the standard now. There is a significant difference between wishing for his death and wishing for his assassination.

I'd prefer for a long lingering old age of dishonor, but there's also a difference even between wishing a natural death, which I don't, and being untroubled if it should happen.
 
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That's the topic you choose to focus on. What do you think that choice tells others about you?

Uhhh...that I don't think it is cool to wish death upon a former or current President?

What is the other interpretation?

You've slightly changed the standard now. There is a significant difference between wishing for his death and wishing for his assassination.

I'd prefer for a long lingering old age of dishonor, but there's also a difference even between wishing a natural death, which I don't, and being untroubled if it should happen.

Come on, man. How many times do I have to repeat this post:

As usual, though...the focus seems to be on everything but the original matter. Which is that someone here called for the public execution of Trump. Even going so far as to link photos of dead bodies. Some seem to be willing to go off on any tangent/topic in order to avoid condemning such a viewpoint. Very telling.

Personally, I don't think it is cool that people wish death on a former or sitting President. I wouldn't condone it at all. I especially would not approve of wishing for a public execution, either.
 
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Uhhh...that I don't think it is cool to wish death upon a former or current President?

What is the other interpretation?

I am absolutely against killing Trump or any political candidate as an act of political violence. I would report to the authorities anyone I believed made a threat as such. That said, Trump has heart disease and if he won't forswear running in 2024, it would be best if nature takes its course. For an end to his cult, we would lose nothing of value in exchange.
 
As the late Billy Martin used to say, "I feel strongly both ways."
 

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