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How? "I have a black friend" is a pretty common misdirection. While I certainly believe a black person can choose to be a Republican for perfectly valid reasons, it doesn't mean that Republican policies aren't hurting black people in this country in general. Or that Republicans don't tend to lean heavy into race-baiting and fear-mongering.

The race baiting and fear mongering in this election came from the Democrats. When the Lincoln Project posed people in front of Youngkin's bus with tiki torches in an attempt to make him look bad, a bunch of Democrats jumped all over it to try to claim his campaign was racist. They needed that accusation of racism.

As for hurting black people, they did better in many ways under Trump than they are doing under Biden.
 
The race baiting and fear mongering in this election came from the Democrats.

Youngkin made CRT a central issue.

When the Lincoln Project posed people in front of Youngkin's bus with tiki torches in an attempt to make him look bad, a bunch of Democrats jumped all over it to try to claim his campaign was racist. They needed that accusation of racism.

The Lincoln project is a bunch of Republicans. How do you not know that?

As for hurting black people, they did better in many ways under Trump than they are doing under Biden.

Prove anything Republicans did is the cause for any sort of improvement. And remember, according to Orange Weakling himself, unemployment numbers are fake.
 
Youngkin made CRT a central issue.

Supporting CRT is race baiting.

The Lincoln project is a bunch of Republicans. How do you not know that?

They call themselves Republicans. They are funded by Democrats, and they support Democrats. How do you not know that?

And as I pointed out, it was the Democrats who tried to portray their stunt as indicating actual racists were supporting Youngkin, and use this as an argument against electing him.

Prove anything Republicans did is the cause for any sort of improvement.

Prove anything Democrats did is the cause for any sort of improvement.

Your appeal to this standard is disingenuous. You're only resorting to it now because you've got nothing beyond alleged motives with which to attack Republicans.
 
Must be why Republicans also elected a black lieutenant governor.

Wait... what? I think the narrative is broken.

That's easy. Most voters go with a straight ticket, for one party or the other. Lt. Gov. is not a high profile post. I suspect Youngkin voters just said "Whoever's with him...."

Ms. Sears has limited political experience. She served one term in the state legislature 15 years ago. She's hardly a picture of black accomplishment. But she's an ardent Trumper, and that's all it took.
 
Supporting CRT is race baiting.

I am under no obligation to play into this nonsense. Go learn what CRT is and stop proving me right.

They call themselves Republicans.

Because they are.

They are funded by Democrats, and they support Democrats. How do you not know that?

They are funded by a lot of people, including nitwit liberals who thought the Lincoln Project brought any value. And their "support" of Democrats go as far as to push more Republican policies onto the Democrats.

And as I pointed out, it was the Democrats Republicans who tried to portray their stunt as indicating actual racists were supporting Youngkin, and use this as an argument against electing him.

You had a typo in there I fixed for you. Also, it is an accurate portrayal of Youngkin's platform, but a real stupid way of executing it.

Prove anything Democrats did is the cause for any sort of improvement.

I graciously accept your concession.

Your appeal to this standard is disingenuous.

Why? Because I want to discuss actual policy and facts?

You're only resorting to it now because you've got nothing beyond alleged motives with which to attack Republicans.

No, I'm resorting to it because all you have offered is empty rhetoric and nonsense claims. The same as Republicans.
 
This is a bit of a misdirection. The students may not have been taught CRT. But the Department of Education in Virginia did try to incorporate CRT into teacher training, and the entire point of doing so is to affect what and how teachers teach students.


It's amazing how often the Democrats protests come down to the old Groucho Marx line: "Who are you going to believe, me or your lying eyes?"
 
The Lincoln project sympathizes with Dems simply because they're the saner of the two parties on average and do not threaten democracy. Simple. Just reveals how ******* insane the faces of the modern GOP are.
 
The Lincoln project sympathizes with Dems simply because they're the saner of the two parties on average and do not threaten democracy. Simple. Just reveals how ******* insane the faces of the modern GOP are.

Bwahahahaha!

No. They shill for Democrats because that's their new grift, which they picked up after they ran out of money on their old grift. If you think any of those pedo associates is actually principled in any way, you haven't been paying attention.
 
Why? Because I want to discuss actual policy and facts?

But you don't. That's the whole point. The start and end of your criticism was "racism". Hell, you haven't even pointed to an actual policy difference between Youngkin and McAuliffe. They exist, but you're not talking about them. So you're in no position to claim that you want to discuss "actual policy".
 
I'm confused. Why trust that this election wasn't rigged?


You just think this is a new game.



There's a lot more eye opening media stuff in that movie from 80 years ago, about a time 110 years ago.


During Obama II, my wife was a Democratic poll observer. They gave her a phone and told her to watch for people hassling other people, and to call one of their roving lawyers. Nothing happened where she was.

At 8:01 PM, the state Democrats declared the election had no fraud. No need to use anything they may have drummed up for potential needs of smashing a shoe on the table.
 
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But you don't. That's the whole point. The start and end of your criticism was "racism".

It's not that my argument does it, it's the Republican platform that begins and ends with "racism"

Hell, you haven't even pointed to an actual policy difference between Youngkin and McAuliffe.

I directly criticized McAuliffe for that very thing.

They exist, but you're not talking about them. So you're in no position to claim that you want to discuss "actual policy".

Republicans have no actual policies, so we can't debate them or contrast them to the policies of the Democrats. This is why I try not to react to every little display by a right-wing nutjob.

Do you want to debate the aspects of Build Back Better? Cool. Want to criticize statements by Biden or any other Democrat, I will respond to good faith arguments until I get bored.

But, I see no evidence that the republican party has any interest in actually governing and I won't pretend to.
 
It's not that my argument does it, it's the Republican platform that begins and ends with "racism"

Like I said, you aren't actually interested in talking about policies.

And you're also trying to switch some generic, unspecified "Republican" for Youngkin. Don't think I didn't catch that bit of intellectual dishonesty.

Do you want to debate the aspects of Build Back Better?

If I did, this wouldn't be the thread, since this is about the Virginia governor's election.
 
Like I said, you aren't actually interested in talking about policies.

Maybe I should run for governor of Virginia.

And you're also trying to switch some generic, unspecified "Republican" for Youngkin. Don't think I didn't catch that bit of intellectual dishonesty.

Youngkin is a generic, unspecified Republican.

If I did, this wouldn't be the thread, since this is about the Virginia governor's election.

Which wasn't about issues either.
 
Supporting CRT is race-baiting? CRT isn't even taught in Virginia public schools. The call to ban it is a call to all racists to vote.
 
My take, based on CNN's exit poll, is that, as is often the case in non-presidential election years, the election is determined by who actually votes.

There were about 1.1 million fewer voters in the Virginia election than in 2020, and under 30 voters accounted for almost exactly half of the decrease (about 325,000 vs 875,000 in 2020). There were also around 600,000 fewer members of minority groups who voted, a decrease of around 40 percent. On the other hand, there was actually a small increase in the number of over 65 voters. So 2 groups that lean solidly Democratic didn't show up at the polls while an important component of the Republican base did (over 65's were more than 3 times as likely to vote as under 30's).

The CNN exit poll showed only about 5 percent of Biden voters voting for Youngkin, which I don't see as a particularly significant swing, given that the 2020 election involved one of the most polarizing figures in American political history. (2 percent of Trump voters voted for McAuliffe.)

IMHO, McAuliffe ran a poor campaign, letting Youngkin get away with not revealing whether he would take any steps to eliminate abortions or what programs he would cut if he went through with his plans for cutting taxes while increasing spending on k-12 education.
 
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IMHO, McAuliffe ran a poor campaign, letting Youngkin get away with not revealing whether he would take any steps to eliminate abortions or what programs he would cut if he went through with his plans for cutting taxes while increasing spending on k-12 education.

Pretty much. McAuliffe ran a crap campaign. He couldn't even properly articulate his own positions. He just said "Orange Man Bad", reacted to Youngkin's nonsense, and then spent the last week or so wagging his finger at people with a legitimate concern (getting kids back in school).
 
Pretty much. McAuliffe ran a crap campaign. He couldn't even properly articulate his own positions. He just said "Orange Man Bad", reacted to Youngkin's nonsense, and then spent the last week or so wagging his finger at people with a legitimate concern (getting kids back in school).
Exactly, he lost because more than half of the population of VA are white supremacists.
 

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