The behaviour of UK police officers.

[Andy_Ross]

Did you read my earlier post? If I recall correctly he's picking these up for around £60 on Ebay.

Which doesn't make sense as they are legal tender and can be exchanged for £100.

 

[zooterkin]

Which doesn't make sense as they are legal tender and can be exchanged for £100.

Perhaps the people selling them on ebay are either not aware of that, or have acquired them in such a way that means they are happy for a lower return and less attention from an official source?

 

[Andy_Ross]

Perhaps the people selling them on ebay are either not aware of that, or have acquired them in such a way that means they are happy for a lower return and less attention from an official source?

Or they are hoping the auction will go over the face value?

Cheapest I can find the £100 Trafalgar Square commemorative silver coin on ebay is an auction with a starting price of £99 and some 'buy it nows' at around £120 to £140.

 

[Darat]

Perhaps the people selling them on ebay are either not aware of that, or have acquired them in such a way that means they are happy for a lower return and less attention from an official source?

A quick google search would tell someone they can take it to the post office and get a £100 in a different legal tender.

 

[zooterkin]

Most of these coins are just pretty coins, usually not worth very much more than their face value, plus of course to get that value someone would have to send the coin to their head office, they would then have to get it valued and sold etc. The way to have got him would be to accept his coin as legal tender and then not given him any change. See the quote above by the Royal Mint.

A quick google search would tell someone they can take it to the post office and get a £100 in a different legal tender.

Well, maybe their first google search didn't find the right answer.

 

[bluesjnr]

Which doesn't make sense as they are legal tender and can be exchanged for £100.

Perhaps the people selling them on ebay are either not aware of that, or have acquired them in such a way that means they are happy for a lower return and less attention from an official source?

Or they are hoping the auction will go over the face value?

Cheapest I can find the £100 Trafalgar Square commemorative silver coin on ebay is an auction with a starting price of £99 and some 'buy it nows' at around £120 to £140.

A quick google search would tell someone they can take it to the post office and get a £100 in a different legal tender.

3.45 mark confirms my recollection is only out by around £13.50. You might find the whole video interesting as it contains his interrogation and he runs rings around a desperate officer who is clearly out of his depth.



Damn video won't open here no matter what I try (maybe because my browser is in restricted mode) - go here to watch it.

https://youtu.be/n05l95oTOSM

 

[Andy_Ross]

Two Met police officers have admitted taking photos of the bodies of murdered sisters Nicole Smallman and Bibaa Henry at the crime scene and sending them via WhatsApp to other officers.

47 yo PC Deniz Jaffer and 33 yo PC Jamie Lewis pleaded guilty to misconduct in public office. Sentencing will take place at a later date.

CPS reveals PC Lewis edited one of the pictures by superimposing his own face onto the photograph with the victims in the background.

The judge told the officers it’s extremely they will face custodial sentences of some length.

 

[Darat]

3.45 mark confirms my recollection is only out by around £13.50. You might find the whole video interesting as it contains his interrogation and he runs rings around a desperate officer who is clearly out of his depth.



Damn video won't open here no matter what I try (maybe because my browser is in restricted mode) - go here to watch it.

https://youtu.be/n05l95oTOSM

Shows police ineptitude but also that he is a dick and doesn't know the law as well as he thinks he does.

 

[bluesjnr]

...snip...he is a dick and doesn't know the law as well as he thinks he does.

You should watch his other videos, they will confirm your assessment.

 

[Nessie]

https://metro.co.uk/2021/11/04/poli...-pain-to-work-did-10000-steps-a-day-15540812/

"A policeman who said he was so badly hurt in a crash he ‘couldn’t even lift a kettle’ has been jailed for defrauding his force of £150,000.
For more than two years, PC Matthew Littlefair, 36, claimed full pay and benefits while ‘putting on an act’ that he was too injured to work."

Despite evidence from his own phone that he did 10,000 steps a day, he still turned up at court in a wheelchair!

 

[Andy_Ross]

Cleveland police and crime chief faces sexual assault investigation
Steve Turner to be investigated after referral to police watchdog over alleged conduct before assuming role

Steve Turner, who became Cleveland police and crime commissioner in May, is resisting pressure to resign after the revelation by the Mirror.
Turner, a Conservative, was already in the spotlight after he was named in parliament as having been cautioned some years ago for theft when he worked at a supermarket.

His job gives him oversight of Cleveland police, which in 2018 became the first English police force to be rated inadequate across all areas.
The police watchdog, the Independent Office for Police Conduct (IOPC), has now begun an investigation into the allegation of a historical sexual offence. The investigation will be carried out by another force.

An IOPC spokesperson said: “Any allegation that a criminal offence may have been committed by a police and crime commissioner (PCC) must be referred by the appropriate authority to the IOPC to determine whether the matter should be investigated.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...f-faces-historic-sexual-assault-investigation

 

[Andy_Ross]

A FORMER Met Police sergeant is among eight people charged with bribery offences in connection with the licensing of business premises in Westminster.

The charges follow an investigation by the force’s "Line of Duty" Directorate of Professional Standards Anti-Corruption Command.

They were charged today (Wednesday, November 10) with conspiracy to commit bribery.

The charges centre around allegations of bribery to get certain door security firms working in nightclubs and strip clubs in the area.

https://www.essexnewsandinvestigati...bery-in-connection-with-westminster-licensing

 

[Nessie]

At least this story is on the same day;

https://www.itv.com/news/london/202...cused-of-sexually-assaulting-three-more-women

"Following a referral of evidence by Hertfordshire Constabulary, the CPS has now charged David Carrick with a total of 14 alleged offences against four women."

as this story;

https://www.itv.com/news/2021-11-24/met-officers-who-took-photos-of-murdered-wembley-sisters-sacked

"Met officers who took photos of murdered Wembley sisters Nicole Smallman and Bibaa Henry sacked"

In the past, it is likely those officers would have got a warning and kept their jobs.

 

[Nessie]

Very little information as yet, but the head of Police Scotland's organised crime, counter terrorism and cyber crime unit has been suspended due to a "criminal allegation".

https://news.stv.tv/scotland/senior-police-officer-suspended-following-criminal-allegation?top

He will now be able to sit at home and earn £90k doing nothing, probably for the next few years, since such investigations are notoriously slow.

 

[Andy_Ross]

The Met say in relation to the Downing St Christmas party that they don’t investigate crimes retrospectively.
That is literally the only way you can investigate crimes.

 

[Darat]

The Met say in relation to the Downing St Christmas party that they don’t investigate crimes retrospectively.
That is literally the only way you can investigate crimes.

The Speaker needs to understand this new policing policy, he wants the police to investigate cocaine use in Parliament!

 

[Darat]

Just read the report about the murders of 4 people, the police could have prevented 3 of those murders if they had shown any competency and the murderer was only stopped at death 4 by the sisters of one victim investigation.

Stephen Port: How Met failings contributed to the deaths of three men https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-59576717

As ever no one was held responsible:

…… Seventeen police officers involved in the original response into the four deaths were investigated by the police watchdog.

The Independent Office for Police Conduct did not refer any of them for misconduct proceedings. Seven of the officers have since been promoted….​

 

[Andy_Ross]

There was a long report on this on Radio 4 PM in the week.

 

[jimbob]

The Met is not fit for purpose

 

[Nessie]

Neither is West Mercia. The BBC report that a year after the killing of the footballer Dalian Atkinson by a police officer who tasered and kicked him, West Mercia have apologised, with the Chief Constable saying there was an "obligation" for her to "acknowledge and accept" his human rights were breached.

Would anyone accept an apology that was a year later and clearly only written by a lawyer out of "obligation"?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-59798500