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Texas bans abortion.

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Skeptic Ginger said:
Remember when year after year the GOP legislators kept introducing bills to end the ACA (Obama care) and they kept promising year after year that they had a better plan? Then when they finally had control of the votes needed to actually pass the revocation of the bill, suddenly their bluff had been called and they had no replacement plan after all?

Well guess what?

Why Republicans Are Scared of Texas’ New Abortion Ban

And why would that be?

For decades, Republican state lawmakers have been able to vote for and pass highly restrictive abortion laws without living through the political consequences, because the laws were typically enjoined by the courts before they ever took effect. The politicians got to check the pro-life box important to a segment of their voters without their constituents ever living under those strict laws. This kept the political backlash to their votes to a minimum.
Sound familiar?
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It has long been believed that this was an effective wedge issue as long as it was never actually made into law. That the GOP has always had an unholy alliance with religious zealots. They want the issue as long as they don't have to defend the consequences of such a law.
 
And Warp12 has conveniently misdirected everyone away from my point in post #1249 with a bull **** return to a discussion we've already had a gazillion times here in this forum.

I encourage people to ignore the trollish 'when is abortion murder' discussion and return to the program in progress. Thank you.

And thank you acbytesla for doing just that.
 
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Warp12 said:
I guess if you kill them soon enough, it hardly matters, right? After all, they are all "non-viable", by Dem account, at that point. :thumbsup:
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Thanks for the praise towards Democrats, but it's better not to confuse acknowledging scientific fact with politics, even if the Democrats are much better than Republicans when it comes to acknowledging science at present.
 
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MarkCorrigan said:
They aren't killing babies. That you persist in claiming they are is irrelevant. A zygote, or even a foetus isn't a baby.[/QUOTE

At 8 weeks, 2 weeks after TX says there's a heartbeat (there isn't) and you can't have an abortion because you're "murdering a BABY".

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It isn't murder. Murder is the unlawful slaying of a human. That isn't a human and it isn't an unlawful act to terminate it.
 
acbytesla said:
It has long been believed that this was an effective wedge issue as long as it was never actually made into law. That the GOP has always had an unholy alliance with religious zealots. They want the issue as long as they don't have to defend the consequences of such a law.
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Ehh, quibble... Carter/Reagan times, morelike, which is when Religious Right segregationists worked hard to make it into a partisan issue to hurt the Democratic Party, nevermind that Roe v Wade can be reasonably credited to mostly Republican Judges. So not always.

Yes, though, they definitely want the issue and not to have to deal with the consequences.
 
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Aridas said:
Ehh, quibble... Carter/Reagan times, morelike, which is when Religious Right segregationists worked hard to make it into a partisan issue to hurt the Democratic Party, nevermind that Roe v Wade can be reasonably credited to mostly Republican Judges. So not always.

Yes, though, they definitely want the issue and not to have to deal with the consequences.
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Yep. Virtue signaling.
 
Aridas said:
Ehh, quibble... Carter/Reagan times, morelike, which is when Religious Right segregationists worked hard to make it into a partisan issue to hurt the Democratic Party, nevermind that Roe v Wade can be reasonably credited to mostly Republican Judges. So not always.

Yes, though, they definitely want the issue and not to have to deal with the consequences.
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You're 100 percent right.

In the 60/70s you were just as likely to find a Republican to be pro-choice as you would to find one that was pro-life.

During the 1980 Presidential election I was a surrogate for the Carter campaign. I gave speeches and answered questions at High Schools, colleges, retirement homes and churches throughout the Seattle area. I won't forget a student at a Christian school ask "why isn't Jimmy Carter a Christian." Now I'm an atheist, but I wasn't then. This question stunned me. I don't think any POTUS in the last 140 years or maybe in American history was a more devout believer than Carter. Even then, I didn't like that as I am a strong believer in Church State separation

I mentioned that from my knowledge Jimmy Carter was not only a Christian but taught Sunday School even while being President.
The student followed up with the question, "then why is he pro choice.

Right then I could see the indoctrination the student was getting at her school.
 


When someone shows the picture of a forming human as their defense for early-term abortion, well, you see how bad the sickness is.
 
acbytesla said:
You're 100 percent right.

In the 60/70s you were just as likely to find a Republican to be pro-choice as you would to find one that was pro-life.

During the 1980 Presidential election I was a surrogate for the Carter campaign. I gave speeches and answered questions at High Schools, colleges, retirement homes and churches throughout the Seattle area. I won't forget a student at a Christian school ask "why isn't Jimmy Carter a Christian." Now I'm an atheist, but I wasn't then. This question stunned me. I don't think any POTUS in the last 140 years or maybe in American history was a more devout believer than Carter. Even then, I didn't like that as I am a strong believer in Church State separation

I mentioned that from my knowledge Jimmy Carter was not only a Christian but taught Sunday School even while being President.
The student followed up with the question, "then why is he pro choice.

Right then I could see the indoctrination the student was getting at her school.
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But, but, I thought it's public schools that are indoctrinating students to be ...gasp...LIBERALS! We just can't have schools indoctrinating students!

 
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