Texas bans abortion.

[Stacyhs]

Religious differences have certainly been the stated justification for lots of bloodshed, but I think the true reason behind most of them was actually competition for resources. It was just easier to sell as "we're doing God's will" than "we want their territory and its lucrative trade routes, rich mines, and fertile fields".
Similarly I suspect the abortion controversy has less to do with the holy sanctity of infant life and more to do with a sexual counter-revolution to undo the 60s.

I agree 100%. While religion was definitely one cause of bloodshed, the greatest cause of violence, war, etc has been the desire to control resources like those you suggested. The Crusades are an excellent example of the use of religion as the pretext when the true goal was economic. Henry VIII's confiscation of the monasteries is another example of religion used as a pretext to gain monetarily.

 

[TurkeysGhost]

Interesting argument: The writer contends that state legislators have felt free to pass all kinds of anti-abortion laws because they were sure that the Supreme Court would invalidate them, sparing them from electoral consequences. Now that the Supreme Court is leaning the other way, legislators may need to reconsider.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics...bortion-roe-wade-supreme-court-precedent.html

I don't really see it. Some national Republicans may be happy to keep their noses out of it, but I don't see any of them "reconsidering". They certainly aren't going to lift a finger to stop Roe from being gutted. "The Dog that doesn't know what to do once it has caught the ambulance" smacks of wishful thinking. The Republicans are exactly as evil as they appear, there will be no re-evaluation.

It's not really their problem. State legislatures and the ultra-right wing SCOTUS are doing all the heavy lifting on this one, they just have to stand back and watch.

 

[JoeMorgue]

Again the Liberal fantasy is always "Well catch the Republicans in some moral hypocrisy or logical paradox and they'll admit they were wrong" and that literally never happens.

The Republican will do one thing when it suits them, then the exact moral/intellectual opposite what that suits them, and they will all sleep like non-aborted babies tonight.

 

[Stacyhs]

To some, women aren't really human. They're 'Split Tails'.

Let's not get crazy here! I'm sure "split tails" is a term used with the utmost respect because most women some people know like it!

 

[Warp12]

The Republican will do one thing when it suits them, then the exact moral/intellectual opposite what that suits them, and they will all sleep like non-aborted babies tonight.

The best kind of babies.

 

[JoeMorgue]

The best kind of babies.

I noticed you never answered my question.

 

[Stacyhs]

I noticed you never answered my question.

Welcome to the club.

 

[Warp12]

I noticed you never answered my question.

I didn't notice one.

 

[ahhell]

Religious differences have certainly been the stated justification for lots of bloodshed, but I think the true reason behind most of them was actually competition for resources. It was just easier to sell as "we're doing God's will" than "we want their territory and its lucrative trade routes, rich mines, and fertile fields".

Definitely agree with this. I forget who said but humans are not rational we are rationalizing. Thus, our stated and even believed reasons are rarely the true cause our our actions.

Similarly I suspect the abortion controversy has less to do with the holy sanctity of infant life and more to do with a sexual counter-revolution to undo the 60s.

I don't agree with this so much.

Well, it all started when a bunch of weird freaks known as the Puritans got on a boat...

Actually, it started when a bunch of Evangelicals needed a rallying cry after the '60s.

RGB and others, seem to think that is was really Roe V Wade that started it buy short circuiting democracy which was head towards mostly legalizing abortion where Roe V Wade without the later Casey modifications left the US with one of the least restrictive abortion regimes in the world and lit a fire under the ass of evangelicals and created the pro life movement.

 

[Stacyhs]

The federal lawsuit grounds against TX:

The law deputizes all private individuals, conflicts with and violates federal laws. It violates the Supremacy Law and the 14th Amendment and violates the law of inter-governmental immunity.

 

[plague311]

The reality is that men will fornicate with anything that moves, and a lot of things that don't. Race is not the determining factor, opportunity is.

I don't think you realize what the impression of this statement gives off.

I'm a man in every a man can be a man. I've never, ever had the desire to sleep with anything outside of my species, anything that isn't moving, and there are many that do move that don't snag my interest.

What an odd stance to take.

 

[Stacyhs]

I don't think you realize what the impression of this statement gives off.

I'm a man in every a man can be a man. I've never, ever had the desire to sleep with anything outside of my species, anything that isn't moving, and there are many that do move that don't snag my interest.

What an odd stance to take.

 

[Warp12]

I don't think you realize what the impression of this statement gives off.

I'm a man in every a man can be a man. I've never, ever had the desire to sleep with anything outside of my species, anything that isn't moving, and there are many that do move that don't snag my interest.

What an odd stance to take.

I don't think you realize what impression your statement gives off.

Sure, there are a few examples of amazing purity, such as yourself, but everyone knows the general sexual behavior of men. They may not lean towards animals, generally, but otherwise anything goes.

Of course, we only bring that sort of thing up when we are trying to explain how it isn't solely a woman's fault that she got pregnant.

 

[TurkeysGhost]

I don't think you realize what impression your statement gives off.

Sure, there are a few examples of amazing purity, such as yourself, but everyone knows the general sexual behavior of men. They may not lean towards animals, generally, but otherwise anything goes.

Perhaps you're projecting.

 

[Resume]

Perhaps you're projecting.

No perhaps.

 

[ponderingturtle]

The federal lawsuit grounds against TX:

The law deputizes all private individuals, conflicts with and violates federal laws. It violates the Supremacy Law and the 14th Amendment and violates the law of inter-governmental immunity.

Like any of that matters, the supreme court already gave the law the OK.

 

[Shalamar]

Perhaps you're projecting.

"Split Tails"

 

[Warp12]

I don't think you realize what impression your statement gives off.

Sure, there are a few examples of amazing purity, such as yourself, but everyone knows the general sexual behavior of men. They may not lean towards animals, generally, but otherwise anything goes.

Of course, we only bring that sort of thing up when we are trying to explain how it isn't solely a woman's fault that she got pregnant.

Perhaps you're projecting.

And perhaps you are in denial. Who knows?

 

[MarkCorrigan]

One of my best friends is, to put it mildly, one of the biggest man-whores I know. He's bisexual and has a enormous sexual appetite. He's visited sex workers, dated men and women, and has gone looking for hookups on fetish sites. He doesn't cheat, but outside of a relationship if he wants sex, he'll get sex in some way.

He has never expressed any kind of desire to sleep with a non human. He's also never expressed a desire to sleep with anything that doesn't move.

I can think of no one I know who would ever consider sleeping with another species. I know I wouldn't.

I think that you might be admitting things that you really don't need to be admitting here Warp12.

 

[Warp12]

One of my best friends is, to put it mildly, one of the biggest man-whores I know. He's bisexual and has a enormous sexual appetite. He's visited sex workers, dated men and women, and has gone looking for hookups on fetish sites. He doesn't cheat, but outside of a relationship if he wants sex, he'll get sex in some way.

He has never expressed any kind of desire to sleep with a non human. He's also never expressed a desire to sleep with anything that doesn't move.

I can think of no one I know who would ever consider sleeping with another species. I know I wouldn't.

I think that you might be admitting things that you really don't need to be admitting here Warp12.

Humorous. But entirely missing the point where my response was related to the typically tired shouting of "racism", and as related to men's sexual conquests.

I said it was related to "opportunity" more than anything else. Cut off your buddy from all other sources, and tell me how he behaves around sheep.

How this ties into abortion, I'll never know.