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Ron DeSantis (R) - Country Hungry for New Blood

Warp12 said:
If you ask such a question, there is no need for discussion.
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Clearly you don't know yourself or you'd just answer the question.

I don't recall anywhere in the US Constitution that says that the Government can't tell you to wear a mask for public safety reasons, perhaps you can point to it.
 
Belz... said:
"If I can't be allowed to put other people's lives in danger, then what is there to life, anymore?"
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You mean like when tens of millions of people break the speed limit? Probably should install governors on all vehicles, starting In FL. If DeSantis will allow it, that is.
 
Belz... said:
"If I can't be allowed to put other people's lives in danger, then what is there to life, anymore?"
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I don't recall any amendment in the US Constitution that says that "the right to put other people's health and lives in danger shall not be infringed" either. Maybe Warp2 can point that one out while showing us where it says that the Government can't tell you to wear a mask for public safety.
 
Warp12 said:
You mean like when tens of millions of people break the speed limit? Probably should install governors on all vehicles, starting In FL. If DeSantis will allow it, that is.
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You realise that you can be fined, arrested, have your license revoked or car confiscated, and even be jailed for speeding right?
 
PhantomWolf said:
You realise that you can be fined, arrested, have your license revoked or car confiscated, and even be jailed for speeding right?
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Also, we should outlaw drinking and smoking. Too many lives at risk. We should start in FL, if possible. Again, if DeSantis allows it.
 
Warp12 said:
Also, we should outlaw drinking and smoking. Too many lives at risk. We should start in FL, if possible. Again, if DeSantis allows it.
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Do you realise that we have age restrictions for the use of alcohol and cigarettes? Right? And that you can be arrested and jailed for drinking too much? You also realise that 33 states have laws allowing cities to have pass alcohol bans, and there are many counties in the US that either ban the sale of alcohol or even its consumption within the county limits? Not to mention that it was outright banned in the 18th amendment before being reinstated in the 21st. Heck, you are failing so badly at this you literally picked something that was Constitutionally banned at one time.

Oh, and yeah, workplace smoking bans and other smoking bans are totally a thing, even in the US.
 
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Warp12 said:
Also, we should outlaw drinking and smoking. Too many lives at risk. We should start in FL, if possible. Again, if DeSantis allows it.
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Laws already exist about where you can smoke and drink. Als, they are quite strict about drinking and driving and your precious "personal liberties" will definitely be "infringed upon" if you are caught doing it.
 
Warp12 said:
You may not like my opinion on what freedom means.
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Here's the thing though. Your opinion should not be forced on other people as law when there are lives at stake, especially when your opinion is in opposition to the science.

The fact is you can't show what liberties you are losing in wearing a mask, all you can do is wave your hands in the air and cry "but my freedoms!" which doesn't absolutely nothing.
 
Warp12 said:
I don't feel I have lost any freedoms. I choose to wear a mask. And, if so inclined, I might choose not to wear one. Keyword:choose.
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If you owned a place of business, would you choose to force customers to wear clothing in your store, or would you choose to let them choose nudity? Would you choose to disallow customers having water gun fights in your store, or would you choose to let them choose to have fun with their Super Soakers? Would you choose to require them to wear masks to reduce their risk of spreading disease during a pandemic, or would you choose to let them choose not to?

It's nice having choices, isn't it? DeSantis doesn't want you to have that last choice.

Actually, he doesn't want you to have that first choice either. Florida has health and public decency laws like in all states that require customers to wear pants even if you the business owner would prefer to allow them not to. Yet no conservatives anywhere are complaining about those laws. Why not, do you think?
 
"Choice is very important to me. For instance I'm choosing to take away your choice" is very Republican logic at this point.
 
Myriad said:
If you owned a place of business, would you choose to force customers to wear clothing in your store, or would you choose to let them choose nudity? Would you choose to disallow customers having water gun fights in your store, or would you choose to let them choose to have fun with their Super Soakers? Would you choose to require them to wear masks to reduce their risk of spreading disease during a pandemic, or would you choose to let them choose not to?

It's nice having choices, isn't it? DeSantis doesn't want you to have that last choice.

Actually, he doesn't want you to have that first choice either. Florida has health and public decency laws like in all states that require customers to wear pants even if you the business owner would prefer to allow them not to. Yet no conservatives anywhere are complaining about those laws. Why not, do you think?
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Perfect analogy. :rolleyes:
 
Warp12 said:
I don't feel I have lost any freedoms. I choose to wear a mask. And, if so inclined, I might choose not to wear one. Keyword:choose.
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You might also choose not to wear a seatbelt, choose to steal someone's TV or choose to drown a small child in a river. Liberty isn't just about bare choises.
 
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