Tucker Carlson in Hungary

In Tucker's fantasy version of Orban, he negatively compared the US's freedom of the press to Hungary's. He claimed Hungary has a more free press. In reality, Reporters without Borders ranks the US #44 and Hungary #92, the higher the number the less freedom of the press. They call Hungary

"EU’s alternative, repressive model".

After seizing on the coronavirus pandemic as a handy pretext, Viktor Orbán’s government continued to extend its hegemony over the Hungarian media landscape and inspire other European countries such as Slovenia and Poland. Its coronavirus legislation, which gave the government almost unlimited powers to handle the crisis, threatened journalists with prosecution on charges of disseminating fake news and “blocking the government’s anti-pandemic efforts,” and imposed additional curbs on their already limited access to state-held information. This would-be information police state at the heart of Europe forced many journalists and their sources to censor themselves, although articles critical of the government and revealing reports were often still published. By requiring journalists to get permission from the authorities and landowners before conducting a drone overflight, or risk a one-year prison sentence, the government showed a readiness to resort to any legislative means possible to obstruct reporting by independent media and to protect the oligarchs that reporters would like to investigate. Media pluralism suffered from political decisions taken on administrative pretexts by the Media Council, including its decision to strip Klubrádió of its frequency, thereby limiting it to online broadcasting, and its Antenna Hungária decision, effectively ending DAB+ broadcasting in Hungary. The most spectacular development in 2020 was the government’s takeover of the Index.hu website with the help of one of the prime minister’s business allies. Telex.hu, launched by former Index.hu journalists, has helped to save what is left of pluralism in Hungary, along with Radio Free Europe’s return.
 
Just a joke in poor taste. You mentioned things you’d suggest for Carlson that were illegal/immoral, I was suggesting they might involve an elephant.

This is why I’m not s professional comedian :D


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You mean like this?

 
Tucker Carlson is just more proof of the right wing's attraction to authoritarianism and it helps explain their love of Trump.
 
Sadly, I blame a lot of this becuase "the greatest generation" has pretty much passed away, and the living memory of what fascism is and what it does is gone.
And I am afraid we have new generation for whom fascism sounds good, and the internet has given Fascists a whole new field of operation.
Fascists have become very good at portraying themsleves as edgy rebels against "The Man" and too many young males are suckers for that line.
I am afraid it going to come down to what happened n the 1940s: It is going to become necessary to kill a number of the bastards to keep them from taking over.

It should also be noted that those Fascists the "Greatest Generation" fought took a lot of queues to how the US ran our society, largely ignored by the ruling class until they go too crazy, and were openly embraced after WW2 to fight communism.

And we had no problem propping up and allying with totalitarian dictators so long as they denounced the Soviet Union and didn't stop our corporations from raping their natural resoruces.

With all that in mind, maybe it isn't that hard to see why certain folks are running to the far right.
 
It should also be noted that those Fascists the "Greatest Generation" fought took a lot of queues to how the US ran our society, largely ignored by the ruling class until they go too crazy, and were openly embraced after WW2 to fight communism.

And we had no problem propping up and allying with totalitarian dictators so long as they denounced the Soviet Union and didn't stop our corporations from raping their natural resoruces.

With all that in mind, maybe it isn't that hard to see why certain folks are running to the far right.

I would go further to say that cultural affinity for Britain is what tipped the US against Germany. Opposition to Hitler was tribal, not ideological, iow. Meanwhile, Americans have no real cultural defense against extremism, given the know-nothing traditions of the South and Midwest, themselves inspired by religious fundamentalism.

The American Taliban first took on the impure non-Anglos, as begrudgingly good at superiority as they were, and did so while keeping refugee Jews on board their ships. Since then, it has been gunning for its ideological enemies, flush with the brutal righteousness of a practiced killer. This is how "My country, right or wrong" could become an unabashed political slogan so soon after WWII, as it contradicted nothing of core values.
 
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... This is how "My country, right or wrong" could become an unabashed political slogan so soon after WWII, as it contradicted nothing of core values.

In the words of Gilbert Keith Chesterton, '“My country, right or wrong,” is a thing that no patriot would think of saying except in a desperate case. It is like saying, “My mother, drunk or sober.” '
 
In the words of Gilbert Keith Chesterton, '“My country, right or wrong,” is a thing that no patriot would think of saying except in a desperate case. It is like saying, “My mother, drunk or sober.” '


The original saying was quite a bit more nuanced and reasonable; it’s dropping the second half of the quote that causes problems.


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The original saying was quite a bit more nuanced and reasonable; it’s dropping the second half of the quote that causes problems.


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Actually, it's dropping the first part the causes the problems.

The story goes back to the early 19th century when a US naval officer and commodore Stephan Decatur was gaining immense admiration and accolades for his naval expeditions and adventures. Decatur was famous for his daredevil acts of valor, especially for the burning of the frigate USS Philadelphia, which was in the hands of pirates from the Barbary states. Having captured the ship with just a handful of men, Decatur set the ship on fire and came back victorious without losing a single man in his army. British Admiral Horatio Nelson remarked that this expedition was one of the boldest and daring acts of the age. Decatur’s exploits continued further. In April 1816, after his successful mission of signing of the peace treaty with Algeria, Stephan Decatur was welcomed home as a hero. He was honored at a banquet, where he raised his glass for a toast and said:


“Our country! In her intercourse with foreign nations may she always be in the right; but our country, right or wrong!”

But, you're right that it is more nuanced than some present. He wasn't saying that the country is always right; he was merely toasting it and expressing his loyalty to and love of it.
 

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