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Moderated Money/inequalities - Part 3 / Poll - willing to work for free?

Are you willing to work for free if the goods and services are free?

  • Yes

    Votes: 23 31.5%
  • No

    Votes: 35 47.9%
  • I don't know

    Votes: 15 20.5%

  • Total voters
    73
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Now on it is good to pay tax because it is a kind of system that redistributes money but in the past it was a system to take the money from people and redistribute it between rich, the king and their pigs. When Jesus said to render to Cesar what belongs to Cesar and to God what belongs to God it means to give back money to devils while people of God don't use money and do it for free.

Why is this wisdom not in Leviticus, where we find all the rules about not killing, wearing mixed fabrics and all the other rules are clearly spelled out? Why did god bury it in the parables, which are left to interpretations, through Jesus? I mean, if it's the only way to haven, why is it not in the 10 commandments? Surely it has to be more important that stoning to death disobedient children?
 
Jesus and his closest followers are forbidden to use money, ok. How far can the be removed from money and still remain true?

They consumed fish, bread and wine. Were the farmers, millers, bakers, fishermen, market stalls just happily handing over whatever they needed?
Were friendly folks just buying it for them to give it over?

Or did the boat maker have to get free lumber, make a free boat, give it to fishermen, then fish to the non-seller so they could get truly correct fish to consume?

Did you think this through Gaetan? Where is the point everything they used would be pure enough to ensure Haven?
 
Gaetan do you think that disobedient children should be stoned to death?

Do you think that Jews are evil?

Do you think that non Christians should be tortured for eternity?

Jesus does.
 
They consumed fish, bread and wine. Were the farmers, millers, bakers, fishermen, market stalls just happily handing over whatever they needed?
Were friendly folks just buying it for them to give it over?

Or did the boat maker have to get free lumber, make a free boat, give it to fishermen, then fish to the non-seller so they could get truly correct fish to consume?

Did you think this through Gaetan? Where is the point everything they used would be pure enough to ensure Haven?

Let's not confuse Jesus being given goods and services, and Gaetan demanding or flat out taking them. A subtle difference he would rather not address.
 
I see you can't cite a single Bible verse to back up your claim.

That's not a road we should travel again. It's the same step. Find something written hundreds of years later, translated dozens of times, tortured more than a POW at Gitmo, and interpreted by a man suffering from insomnia. Thousands of years of people reading the same text and one man finds the "truth" but is unwilling to follow it.

How many of Jesus's teaching requires everyone else to do it before you can do it? I can't find any. So this teaching is so far removed from the rest it's almost like someone pulled it out of his own ass.
 
Let's not confuse Jesus being given goods and services, and Gaetan demanding or flat out taking them. A subtle difference he would rather not address.


If I reword it to jesus demanding and flat out taking goods and services is it possible to get an answer?
 
If I reword it to jesus demanding and flat out taking goods and services is it possible to get an answer?

First problem, Gaetan doesn't answer, he asserts. The second problem is that Jesus never demanded goods or services, they were just provided. He never took from the unwilling. Gaetan took that example, **** all over it, and condemned us all to be his slaves.
 
I'm pretty sure Jesus could afford a better holiday than going to a Haven.

Haven. For when Butlins is too posh for you.

Haven seems right up his alley. Jesus was a man of the people, and haven would be in his wheelhouse. His posse would would book it for 12 and sneak him in, freeloading all the way.
 
This very thread had a poll and the majority of respondents would not work for free in exchange for goods and services.

Doesn't that invalidate Gaetan's theory that people are willing to work for free?
 
This very thread had a poll and the majority of respondents would not work for free in exchange for goods and services.

Doesn't that invalidate Gaetan's theory that people are willing to work for free?

No, that just means he needs to market it better. He said, a while ago, he just needs like 4 or 5 people to switch sides and then it is a majority and we all become chattel.
 
Yesterday was the day the earth spends what could be renew, it is just to show you what profit can do.
 
Yesterday was the day the earth spends what could be renew, it is just to show you what profit can do.

Profit is the goal of businesses. It is not a bad thing. The profits are used to pay employees, rent, other bills, taxes and it's what makes the economy run.

Your fantasy no money world will be a sloth like existence with people only doing the bare minimum in exchange for taking what they want.

In a no money world, only the strongest will survive. If there's a dispute over the last piece of food or merchandise, the physically strong will prevail, or those with guns.

Gaetan wants us to live in a violent "Escape From New York" type of world.
 
Gaetan do you think that disobedient children should be stoned to death?

Do you think that Jews are evil?

Do you think that non Christians should be tortured for eternity?

Jesus does.

Well Gaetan? Or are you just going to spout pidgin English nonsense again?
 
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