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The Jan. 6 Investigation

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Rush, Hannity, Beck, Carlson and all the other Right-Wing grifters only use emotions, not facts, and yet we are told to take them as seriously as actual journalists.
 
Cain said:
I thought it was unAmerican. REAL men are stoic in the face of mortal danger (e.g., Clint Eastwood, John Wayne). These hysterical soyboys can go suck dicks in hell.
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Sometimes you scare me, Cain. The hard edge here would almost make me doubt your rep.
 
The best description IMV was Officer Fanone describing it as being 'like a medieval battle field'.

"It looked like a medieval battle scene," Michael Fanone recounted to ABC News Chief Justice Correspondent Pierre Thomas on Friday. "Some of the most brutal combat I've ever encountered."

When he arrived on scene, Fanone said, it was "chaos."
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theprestige said:
Of course emotionally detailed accounts are the best kind of accounts. I certainly hope that Congress passes new laws based on emotionally detailed accounts.
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Why would you be looking to pass new laws? The actions were already against the law.
 
theprestige said:
Of course emotionally detailed accounts are the best kind of accounts. I certainly hope that Congress passes new laws based on emotionally detailed accounts.
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Yes the only time emotion is supposed to be expressed is in how much supreme court justices love beer.
 
dirtywick said:
It was sworn testimony from law enforcement officers that were eye witnesses to the events. Because it was emotional, it must not be truthful is a pretty weak and lazy criticism...
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This seems to be emerging as the official MAGA talking point. They have to come up with something to contradict the reality we've all seen and they don't have a whole lot to work with. :(
 
smartcooky said:
These four men recounted in graphic detail what happened to them, supported with graphic body-cam video. They were beaten the crap out of, one was tazered repeatedly with his own tazer, one had his eyes gouged, one now has a permanent traumatic brain injury that will affect him for the rest of his life, and your take away from all that was to mock them for their emotions.
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Exactly like Saint Tucker did. Their right-wing media says jump, they jump.
 
theprestige said:
Of course emotionally detailed accounts are the best kind of accounts. I certainly hope that Congress passes new laws based on emotionally detailed accounts.
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Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you “compassionate Comservatism” in just two sentences.
 
Dragging this over here from the other thread:

Skeptic Ginger said:
The Dump-GOP legislators clearly sat around in a meeting to come up with this talking points memo they then sent around for ad nauseum repetition.

Here's this one: Nancy Pelosi and the BLM movement are to blame because they defunded the police. :crazy:

And their cult followers will buy it, coming to a FB news stream or Twitter feed near you.

Here's a fact check on Capitol Police funding straight from the Libertarian Cato Institute on Jan 8, 2021


Someone needs to shove that in the face of anyone buying what Jordan is selling.

Re the police, they earned that money on the 6th!

I agree though someone at the top was responsible for dismissing the white protestors because they are alright guys. I think the police chief already resigned didn't he?
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Many of the police worked hard that day in extremely adverse conditions and did their duty well. We also know that some did not.

Last I checked 6 were put on leave to investigate their conduct during the attack where some cops were seen glad-handing the mob and made it pretty clear where their sympathies lied. It's plainly obvious that decisions were made that left the Capitol a soft target, and the reasons for why that happened must be investigated thoroughly.

If the chief resigned, that's a good thing, but that's not the end of things. The leadership decision to not be prepared needs to be publicly explored in detail. Firing leadership is a necessary result, but not the end of the matter. The public needs to understand what was motivating this failure and how to prevent future repeats.

The police enabling of right wing political violence is a nationwide problem that must be addressed. The Capitol police being unprepared to stop a clearly telegraphed right wing attack is not a one-off phenomena. Across the country we have been seeing that police are either inexplicably unable or unwilling to enforce the law against violent right wing actors. I can't think of a higher profile way than to explore this particular example in extreme detail.
 
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Cain said:
I thought it was unAmerican. REAL men are stoic in the face of mortal danger (e.g., Clint Eastwood, John Wayne). These hysterical soyboys can go suck dicks in hell.
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The attempt to overturn the Democratic process was Unamerican. ANYONE who was inside that building should face time, and those who were clearly ringleaders deserve time at gitmo, with the same treatment given those suspected of involvement in things AL Qaeda etc, because there is no difference in who and what they are. Anyone who openly sympathizes with the guilty deserve an active FBI file as well.

You heard me.
 
It's an old trick: if the witness is emotional, say they're clearly too emotional to be trusted about the facts. If the witness is not emotional, say that they're clearly lying because any normal person would be emotional when recalling such things if they truly happened.
 
TragicMonkey said:
It's an old trick: if the witness is emotional, say they're clearly too emotional to be trusted about the facts. If the witness is not emotional, say that they're clearly lying because any normal person would be emotional when recalling such things if they truly happened.
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Exactly. It shows that the emotional state of the witness is completely irrelevant: it's the narrative that counts for them.
 
theprestige said:
Of course emotionally detailed accounts are the best kind of accounts. I certainly hope that Congress passes new laws based on emotionally detailed accounts.
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It's as if you've posted a movie review after watching the first three minutes.
 
“How DARE you show emotion when talking about how you were almost beaten to death by lunatics I support!!”
 
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