Free Britney!

No, no, no. This is slavery only for those suffering from mental illness. That makes it better, somehow.

"But Dragon's Dogma does have one major unique mechanic that deserves a close examination. It's, um. . .well, do you remember Neopets? It's kind of like that but with slavery. As part of the introductory missions, you have to generate a primary NPC sidekick in the same way you made yourself: class, race, appearance, favorite Spice Girl, etc. But for adventuring purposes, you can also enlist two additional sidekicks who are the main sidekicks of other players elsewhere in the world. You go into a little connecting universe where a sampling of available hired hands swan about trying to catch your eye, you go over to the ones you like, look at their equipment, check their teeth, bob their scrotums, and if you're happy, take them adventuring with you. When you're finished with them, you give them a little present and send them back to their owner with a fond slap on the bum. You even have to rate them like you're filling in the timesheet for the temp agency. It creates motivation to make sure that your sidekick has the best equipment and skills and looks good in tights so they'll be more likely to get hired by other players, acquire experience, bring you back presents, and...wait a minute! Am I pimping?!

Once that thought occurred to me, I just couldn't shake it off. It didn't help that I deliberately designed my sidekick to juxtapose my protagonist, making him a long-haired, blond, petite young white boy with rosy cheeks and pouty lips, or the way he'd come back from his temp jobs timidly asking if he'd done a good job and clutching a really, really nice present that haunted me as I tried to picture what kind of service had earned it. No, it's all right, says the game. They're not actually intelligent, free willed human beings. They're pawns, a sort of magical slave race who look a lot like humans but actually don't have minds of their own. Oh, even better. Now we're pimping the mentally sub-normal!"

Ben "Yahtzee" Croshaw's review of Dragon's Dogma.
 
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It would've been nice if there was an online official transcript for the WBUR (Boston's NPR news station) On Point discussion, "What Britney Spears Teaches Us About Conservatorships In America" with guests Lisa MacCarley, Dr. Sam Sugar, and Patricia Keane Martin, that aired 01 July 2021, by Stefano Kotsonis and Meghna Chakrabarti.

I consider the WBUR On Point discussion to be of great significance, as it pertains to Britney Spears' unconstitutional conservatorship specifically, and highlighting some conservatorship (aka guardianship) abuse/exploitation/fraud issues generally.


I've never tried it, but I wonder if one of the speech-to-text programs could be used to produce one. Some of them are pretty sophisticated.


The "Dictation" feature, native on my iMac works well.

But "Dictation" still takes time because I have to switch back-and-forth between the audio or video, go to a word-type document, and add who says what at what time. I need to make a transcript with time references to accurately quote from.

I'm finishing a transcription of the Billie Mintz documentary, "The Guardians."

I made a transcript from Netflix's, "I Care a Lot," and, Netflix's (since-removed from Neflix's library) Dirty Money (series): "Guardians Inc."

I'll be quoting from transcripts to comment on conservatorship/guardianship/power of attorney abuse issues.

Thank you for the suggestion!
 
On the other hand, some of us do.

Personal anecdote: I have been in a long-term relationship (close to 20 years) with someone who is currently in her final year for a master's degree in mental health care policy, has been accepted for a PhD in the same subject starting next year, speaks regularly at mental health care conferences, has been published in peer-reviewed journals on the subject of mental health care and government policy, and has also been diagnosed with PTSD and Bipolar II and works as an advocate for mental health care consumers. She and I have had more than a few conversations on the subject. While I don't attempt to claim that this makes me an expert or an authority on the subject, I happen know a fair bit about it.

Exactly. Despite being diagnosed with the same mental illness as Britney Spears - bipolar disorder - she is a functioning adult who has not been placed in a conservatorship.

Do you think a mental illness is the same as getting diagnosed with a broken leg? The manifestations are so varied, even within a diagnosis, that your comparing of them is beyond the pale. And, equally so, if your affected partner is making the same argument.

Some people are still going by the idea that they understand her medical condition, simply because they read TMZ articles. It is ridiculous.
 
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“All I want is to own my money… and for this to end… and for my boyfriend to be able to ******* drive me in his car. And honestly…. I want to be able to sue my family,” Spears said during the hearing. She added, “I truly believe this conservatorship is abusive.”

Man, K-Fed 2.0 is going to get paid. Good work, bro.
 
Do you think a mental illness is the same as getting diagnosed with a broken leg? The manifestations are so varied, even within a diagnosis, that your comparing of them is beyond the pale. And, equally so, if your affected partner is making the same argument.

Some people are still going by the idea that they understand her medical condition, simply because they read TMZ articles. It is ridiculous.

Actually, the DSM is quite specific in its criteria for asessing and diagnosing particular mental illnesses. And if, as you say, there's plenty of room for debate about "manifestations [that] are so varied," that's all the more reason to believe that a shrink Britney's daddy hired might be wrong, or prejudiced, or might at least reach a different conclusion from someone she hired herself.

And what makes you think you know enough to insist that Spears today is in the same allegedly helpless state that got her into what was supposed to be a temporary conservatorship 13 years ago? By the accounts of multiple experts, this was a shady enterprise from the beginning.
 
Actually, the DSM is quite specific in its criteria for asessing and diagnosing particular mental illnesses. And if, as you say, there's plenty of room for debate about "manifestations [that] are so varied," that's all the more reason to believe that a shrink Britney's daddy hired might be wrong, or prejudiced, or might at least reach a different conclusion from someone she hired herself.

And what makes you think you know enough to insist that Spears today is in the same allegedly helpless state that got her into what was supposed to be a temporary conservatorship 13 years ago? By the accounts of multiple experts, this was a shady enterprise from the beginning.

Again, a person who really does not understand the nature of mental illness.

We will see. I am not "insisting" upon anything. Believe what you wish. It might take some time for us to see the real results of this experiment, lol.
 
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Do you think a mental illness is the same as getting diagnosed with a broken leg? The manifestations are so varied, even within a diagnosis, that your comparing of them is beyond the pale. And, equally so, if your affected partner is making the same argument.

Some people are still going by the idea that they understand her medical condition, simply because they read TMZ articles. It is ridiculous.

No, whats ridiculous is that you're okay with someone losing that much individual liberty when every bit of evidence points to her being railroading from the beginning by an abusive father.
 
Actually, the DSM is quite specific in its criteria for asessing and diagnosing particular mental illnesses. And if, as you say, there's plenty of room for debate about "manifestations [that] are so varied," that's all the more reason to believe that a shrink Britney's daddy hired might be wrong, or prejudiced, or might at least reach a different conclusion from someone she hired herself.

Or the shrink might have been Daddy's bud from the golf course who was promised a share of the spoils.
 
Again, a person who really does not understand the nature of mental illness.

We will see. I am not "insisting" upon anything. Believe what you wish. It might take some time for us to see the real results of this experiment, lol.

A person's state of dignity and freedom as an experiment, not dystopian at all...
 
Again, a person who really does not understand the nature of mental illness.

We will see. I am not "insisting" upon anything. Believe what you wish. It might take some time for us to see the real results of this experiment, lol.

What you refuse to grasp is that "mental illness" covers a lot of ground, and however it is defined, it is rarely the basis for reducing a functional adult to legal infancy. Conservatorships are intended for patients with Alzheimer's or brain injury, and in Spears' particular case, it was supposed to be temporary. Adults are free to enter bad relationships, spend money foolishly and make wrong career choices without permanently losing all their rights. Her family abused her as their cash cow when she was a child, and they have effectively kidnapped her as an adult with the connivance of the courts. This whole thing stinks.
 
James P. Spears could become a professional guardian/conservator. He's got experience with his daughter, Britney Spears.

Simone Biles and importance on proper attention to mental health:

Simone Biles withdrew from the USA women's team gymnastics final over a mental health concern.

The American gymnast Simone Biles, the biggest star at the Tokyo Olympics and the greatest athlete in the sport’s history, last night walked away from the women’s team competition after admitting she had “freaked out in a high stress situation”. [1]​

Cameras caught her telling team doctor Marcia Faustin, “I don’t want to do it. I’m done.” [2]​

After the final -- won by the the Russia Olympic Committee (ROC) -- Biles broke down in tears as she explained her decision.
"Whenever you get in a high stress situation, you kind of freak out," the 24-year-old told reporters. "I have to focus on my mental health and not jeopardize my health and well-being."

"It just sucks when you're fighting with your own head," she added. [3]​

Simone Biles left the arena after one vault. Mentally, she had enough. Biles later returned, cheered for, and got chalk for, her remaining three US teammates.

Simone Biles is a champion and is justified and in control of her behavior. (Take care of yourself, Simone. Therapeutic, good, honest help can be found.)

But keep in mind that there are cruel, sadistic, and corrupt people who can and will twist things around and get an abusive conservatorship/guardianship/power of attorney, over a vulnerable person.

Cruel, sadistic, and corrupt people can prey on the vulnerable

I believe Britney Spears was misled into an unfounded, unnecessary, and abusive conservatorship because Britney was misled and a victim of gaslighting.

Britney shaved her head bald in a public display? Heck, I went to a university where students had all sorts of hairdos: shaved; mohawks, mohawk with spikes, bald lines cut into buzz-cut, buzzed on one side and long on the other side, vibrant colors including fluorescent orange. Shaving one's head doesn't by itself mean you've got a mental health issue. Some might call it playful, artsy, or simply, they know what they want their hair to look like.

And riding with a kid on your lap like Britney did? Is that really child endangerment, or is that a fabrication by the media?

Broken systems and a number of people made Britney's abusive conservatorship.

I'd like to know more details about how Britney's conservatorship came to be.

Free Britney and others in abusive/exploitive/fraudulent conservatorships/guardianships/power of attorney.

Hold abusers accountable.

Make the abusers' names and dirty deeds public.

Sources

[1] Ingle, Sean. "Simone Biles exits women’s Olympic team gymnastics final over mental health concern." The Guardian, 27 July 2021. Retrieved from https[colon]//www[dot]theguardian.com/sport/2021/jul/27/simone-biles-withdraws-tokyo-2020-olympics-gymnastics-all-around-final

[2] Apstein, Stephanie. "Simone Biles Withdrew From Team Final Because She Wasn't in the Right Place Mentally." Sports Illustrated, 27 July 2021. Retrieved from https[colon]//www.si[dot]com/olympics/2021/07/27/simone-biles-injury-tokyo-olympics-mental-health-withdrawal

[3] Ramsay, George and John Sinnott. 'I have to focus on my mental health,' says Simone Biles after withdrawing from gold medal event. CNN, 27 July 2021. Retrieved from https[colon]//www.cnn[dot]com/2021/07/27/sport/simone-biles-tokyo-2020-olympics/index.html

Posted Tuesday, 27 July 2021 about 3:45 p.m. (EDT) by Ernie Marsh. (My full legal name is Raymond Ernest Marsh, but my friends and most people call me Ernie)
 
It’s also notable that Britney’s children also have a restraining order against Jamie Spears due to a violent altercation. Seems he’s not too much better than she is with the kids. Maybe he needs a conservator.

Too bad about Simone Biles though. I don’t follow the sport but I know she’s considered one of the best gymnasts in the history of the sport and having a competitor sit out is a loss.
 
Another review of how she got here. This stood out:
Spears has been under her conservatorship for 13 years. The arrangement was considered temporary at first, but in time, it seems to have become permanent — a common trajectory for conservatorships, according to experts.

Periodic hearings to renew temporary guardianships or conservatorships “take up a lot of judicial resource. It’s difficult for the family. It’s difficult for the protected person,” says Cukier. “So sometimes the courts will say, ‘Look, you’ve been here for three temporary periods, just make it permanent. And if you want to terminate the conservatorship later’ — which is something Britney is dealing with — ‘then come back to court with your medical evidence.’ ”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/arts...14/britney-spears-conservatorship-court-case/

So, in effect, once a conservatorship is established, the conservators no longer have to prove that this extreme step is necessary; the subject has to try to prove that it's not.
 
Another review of how she got here. This stood out:
Spears has been under her conservatorship for 13 years. The arrangement was considered temporary at first, but in time, it seems to have become permanent — a common trajectory for conservatorships, according to experts.

Periodic hearings to renew temporary guardianships or conservatorships “take up a lot of judicial resource. It’s difficult for the family. It’s difficult for the protected person,” says Cukier. “So sometimes the courts will say, ‘Look, you’ve been here for three temporary periods, just make it permanent. And if you want to terminate the conservatorship later’ — which is something Britney is dealing with — ‘then come back to court with your medical evidence.’ ”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/arts...14/britney-spears-conservatorship-court-case/

So, in effect, once a conservatorship is established, the conservators no longer have to prove that this extreme step is necessary; the subject has to try to prove that it's not.


That (broken) arrangement & reasoning is in part how abuse, exploitation, and fraud, can continue in perpetuity.

Good luck trying to get out of an abusive conservatorship, guardianship, crooked power of attorney. 'Justice' is stacked against you.

Broken court systems, biased laws, corrupt individuals, abusive family, (and a long list of other professionals and people) make it easy for abusive, exploitative, and fraudulent conservatorships/guardianships/power of attorney, to happen in perpetuity.

Typically, a person gets out of a conservatorship or guardianship by dying.
 
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Do you think a mental illness is the same as getting diagnosed with a broken leg? The manifestations are so varied, even within a diagnosis, that your comparing of them is beyond the pale. And, equally so, if your affected partner is making the same argument.

Some people are still going by the idea that they understand her medical condition, simply because they read TMZ articles. It is ridiculous.

Sure, different people with bipolar are different. Her diagnosis with bipolar disorder is consistent with her mental illness being more severe than that of Arthwollipot's partner.

It's not consistent with her being put in a conservatorship. The question isn't "Is she or isn't she mentally ill" or even "will she or won't she make good life decisions". The question is whether or not she's capable of making decisions at all, or of understanding basic human language enough to, for instance, sign a contract and know what she's signing.

Her mental illness isn't consistent with that. There's a lot we don't know about her mental state, her personality, and her preferences. But the things we do know aren't consistent with the requirements for conservatorship.

This is pretty simple.
 
If no one here has personal experience with the "revolving door" of mental illness where paranoid or bipolar delusions pay a big part, then you don't know that these persons can act totally or 'reasonably' normal for periods of time.....and then the rabbit hole opens up and sucks them down. Again, and again, and again..... a few weeks in hospital here, a few weeks there, 6 months intensive..... then try something new, maybe this 20th mix of meds will work? maybe off all meds? try everything....but it just never ends. We tried for 10 years. There is no cure, only coping and lots of support. At some point you give up the dream of some return to normalcy.

Xavier Amador has a great book called "I Am Not Sick, I Don't Need Help" about his experiences with this. Helped me a lot is dealing with a family member in the same situation (with anosognosia).
 
If no one here has personal experience with the "revolving door" of mental illness where paranoid or bipolar delusions pay a big part, then you don't know that these persons can act totally or 'reasonably' normal for periods of time.....and then the rabbit hole opens up and sucks them down. Again, and again, and again..... a few weeks in hospital here, a few weeks there, 6 months intensive..... then try something new, maybe this 20th mix of meds will work? maybe off all meds? try everything....but it just never ends. We tried for 10 years. There is no cure, only coping and lots of support. At some point you give up the dream of some return to normalcy.

Xavier Amador has a great book called "I Am Not Sick, I Don't Need Help" about his experiences with this. Helped me a lot is dealing with a family member in the same situation (with anosognosia).

They won't, nor do they care, to get it.



Sadly.
 
That (broken) arrangement & reasoning is in part how abuse, exploitation, and fraud, can continue in perpetuity.

Good luck trying to get out of an abusive conservatorship, guardianship, crooked power of attorney. 'Justice' is stacked against you.

Broken court systems, biased laws, corrupt individuals, abusive family, (and a long list of other professionals and people) make it easy for abusive, exploitative, and fraudulent conservatorships/guardianships/power of attorney, to happen in perpetuity.

Typically, a person gets out of a conservator ship or guardianship by dying.

Though is this egregious case, it is being thrown into the public eye just what a POS the Father and the conservatorship is, and that will likely/hopefully prove it's undoing.
 

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