Have you been vaccinated?

[Steve]

I just saw an interview with his brother. The brother said Phil was in very good health, worked out daily, took B and C vitamins, and thought he had an excellent immune system. Shades of Caroline13.

Significantly, no mention of grape seed extract. Can't have a healthy immune system without grape seed extract.

 

[acbytesla]

Significantly, no mention of grape seed extract. Can't have a healthy immune system without grape seed extract.

I think Caroline meant appleseed or apricot seed extract.

 

[Stacyhs]

I think Caroline meant appleseed or apricot seed extract.

At least vanilla extract smells good.

 

[acbytesla]

At least vanilla extract smells good.

Appleseed and apricot seeds contain amygdalin. A source for cyanide.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

What good are all these vaccinations? Until they stop the illegals from crossing our southern border we will always be at risk of it spreading

I see you are well versed in the problem .... not.

 

[wasapi]

Sarah Huckabee Sanders trying to change the narrative:
"Read my column in today’s @ArkansasOnline on why I decided to get the Trump vaccine."

https://www.arkansasonline.com/news/2021/jul/25/the-reasoning-behind-getting-vaccinated/

I believe I read about half of the article. Plenty long to ascertain, once again, that Sander's full of lies, arrogance, and sheer stupidity. When she was no longer employed by Trumt, given time, she may not be such an idiot.

Oh. What was I thinking . . .

 

[Stacyhs]

I believe I read about half of the article. Plenty long to ascertain, once again, that Sander's full of lies, arrogance, and sheer stupidity. When she was no longer employed by Trumt, given time, she may not be such an idiot.

Oh. What was I thinking . . .

From your link:

Sanders:
What I found was simple: Dr. Fauci and the "because science says so" crowd of arrogant, condescending politicians and bureaucrats were wrong about more than their mandates and shutdowns that have inflicted incalculable harm on our people and economy. They also misjudged the Trump vaccine plan, which rolled out just as safely, quickly, and effectively as the Trump administration promised.

This is such a blatant lie. It was a mess!

The race to vaccinate millions of Americans is off to a slower, messier start than public health officials and leaders of the Trump administration’s Operation Warp Speed had expected.

Dr. Ashish Jha, a health policy researcher and dean of the Brown University School of Public Health, said the main problem is that states are not getting adequate financial or technical support from the federal government. Jha said the Trump administration, principally the Department of Health and Human Services, has set states up to fail.
“There’s a lot states still need to do,” he said, “but you need a much more active role from the federal government than what they have been willing to do. They’ve largely said to states, ‘This is your responsibility. Figure it out.’”

Sanders: When the Trump administration initiated Operation Warp Speed in May 2020, the president stated that a vaccine would become available by December of that year at the very latest.

She neglects to say that Trump first claimed the vaccine would be available in October:

Trump said he expects the government to be able to distribute a vaccine "sometime in October," though "it may be a little later than that."
But I'm telling you, here's the bottom line: Distribution is going to be very rapid. He may not know that. Maybe he's not aware of that. And maybe he's not dealing with the military, etc., like I do. Distribution is going to be very rapid, and the vaccine's going to be very powerful."

In reality, the vaccine began distribution in late December, but it certainly was not "rapid" nor was it widely available. It was restricted to the elderly and essential workers like health caregivers in retirement homes and medical staff. It wasn't until late spring that it became more available without waiting weeks for an appointment and to non-senior citizens.

Sanders: The New York Times ran an opinion piece claiming that whatever the Trump administration released would likely be a dangerous political stunt. CNN did the same.

The NYT actually wrote in June 2020 in an opinion piece that " In a desperate search for a boost, he could release a coronavirus vaccine that has not been shown to be safe and effective as an October surprise."
CNN wrote in Aug. 2020 "President Donald Trump is desperately hoping to turn a Covid-19 vaccine, for which the entire world is longing, into his October Surprise.

He predicts a vaccine breakthrough multiple times a day, assures Americans he has the military on standby to rush it out and promises 100 million, 250 million, even 500 million individual doses will be very quickly available. He hails a "tremendous" vaccine that is "very close" and will be ready "very, very early, before the end of the year, far ahead of schedule."

Experts are very hopeful about the potential for an effective vaccine, but by implying one is almost imminent and will quickly end the pandemic, Trump is raising expectations that are unlikely to be swiftly met and would come too late to save his presidential campaign in any case.

But from a short-term political perspective, talking about a vaccine allows Trump, who's down in the polls, a chance to promise voters an end to the nightmare that has upended everyday life for much of the country. A big White House South Lawn announcement that a vaccine is finally within reach a few days before a close election must dance in the President's dreams at night."

Huckabee misrepresents what the NYT and CNN actually said. Quelle surprise.

Sanders: But no one did more to undercut public confidence in the vaccine than Joe Biden and Kamala Harris. Biden doubted that the vaccine would be "real," while Harris said in a nationally-televised debate that she would not take any vaccine the Trump administration had a hand in creating.

Nope. Biden never said he doubted the vaccine itself would be 'real'; what he actually said:

"How are you going to distribute the vaccine when it arrives, when it arrives, when it’s there? And the question of whether it’s real, when it’s there, that requires enormous transparency. You’ve got to make all of it available to other experts across the nation, so they can look and see, so there’s consensus this is a safe vaccine. Because already you have, what percent is American people saying if the vaccine were there tomorrow, they wouldn’t take it? And it’s not the usual anti-vaccine crowd. It’s beyond that because people are losing faith in what the president says. Think about it."

Kamala Harris also never said "she would not take any vaccine the Trump administration had a hand in creating." What she actually said:

"Well, I think that's going to be an issue for all of us. I will say that I would not trust Donald Trump. And it would have to be a credible source of information that talks about the efficacy and the reliability of whatever he's talking about. I will not take his word for it. He wants us to inject bleach. I — no, I will not take his word."

And:

"If the public health professionals, if Dr. Fauci, if the doctors tell us that we should take it, I’ll be the first in line to take it. Absolutely. But if Donald Trump tells us that we should take it, I’m not taking it."

Again, Huckabee lies about what was actually said. I didn't bother to read any more of her article. But one has to wonder if those reading her article will take it at face value. No... I don't have to wonder; most of those who bother reading her crap will swallow it whole.

 

[Cain]

And yet the Trump Vaccine is totally safe and effective. Thank you, President Trump.

It's like how "fake news" used to be wholly fabricated anti-Clinton articles on Facebook, but morphed into CNN from 3D chessplayer Donald Trump. Repeat a lie enough, and stupid people will believe it. I mean, look at Joe Biden trying to steal credit for the Trump Vaccine.

Actually, I don't think the Trump Vaccine will ever become a dominant narrative, but it can give wiggle-room to the less hard-core followers.

 

[dudalb]

Don't wait too long.*



*See my signature.

For some reason a George Harrison song echoed through my mind with those words.....

 

[dudalb]

Again "LOL anti-vaxxers good luck just die I don't care" would be fine except they are going to stay alive just long enough to make new strains and variants.

And maybe have kids....so much for improving the breed.

 

[dudalb]

Well. if you work for the feds you hadbetter get vaccinated.

 

[Venom]

I'm getting more and more frustrated with the contrarian "barstool" social commentators, pretending to sound smart after reading a few blogs by contrarian researchers or outright quacks. I guess the hot talking point now after dabbling in bad science for a few months is "freedom of choice". This is the hill they've chosen to die on, partly to avoid going too deep into the science which they probably know they won't be able to argue against anymore.

Usually I don't wish harm on anyone. But I do think for some people, harm is the only way to get them to see things from a different perspective or stop the harm they could cause.

 

[Stacyhs]

I'm getting more and more frustrated with the contrarian "barstool" social commentators, pretending to sound smart after reading a few blogs by contrarian researchers or outright quacks. I guess the hot talking point now after dabbling in bad science for a few months is "freedom of choice". This is the hill they've chosen to die on, partly to avoid going too deep into the science which they probably know they won't be able to argue against anymore.

Usually I don't wish harm on anyone. But I do think for some people, harm is the only way to get them to see things from a different perspective or stop the harm they could cause.

And even then, some are just too damn stupid to see how wrong they are.

 

[abaddon]

So, you are planning to wear a mask for as long as possible, because, anti-vaxxers? Or, are you proposing the vaccine be required by law? I'm just not sure what you are getting at.

I would support it being required by law.

I am fully vaxxed up, even though I happen to be an at risk category. As soon as I could I leapt at the vax as fast as humanly possible.

Sure I will continue to wear a mask because there are a crapton of idiotic anti-vaxxers out there determined to propagate the virus at the cost of peoples lives. Because jesus or conspiracy or depopulation or whatever mad bollocks they make up.

Just how stupid would one need to be to be unable to understand that the vaccine is simply instructions for what to do when the virus enters the body?

When the virus enters the body, one well may experience little or no symptoms as opposed to unvaccinated death. So I will continue to wear a mask even though vaxxed. Because I do not want to catch it from some unvaccinated witless moron and unknowingly pass it on to some other unvaccinated witless moron. Or a vulnerable person. Or someone who is unable to get it for medical reasons. Or whatever.

Antivaxxers simply do not care about others.

 

[dudalb]

Again "LOL anti-vaxxers good luck just die I don't care" would be fine except they are going to stay alive just long enough to make new strains and variants.

This. If it was confined to the Anti Vaxxers, I would just say "Well, it's evolution in action:Mother Nature culling the herd".

 

[dudalb]

Biden will drop the Mandatory Vaccination for the Feds bomb tommorow.

 

[smartcooky]

This. If it was confined to the Anti Vaxxers, I would just say "Well, it's evolution in action:Mother Nature culling the herd".

I had a brief verbal exchange yesterday with an anti-vax protestor outside our local vaccination clinic when I was on my way down the street to the bank. She was holding up a sign that said "I will not take part in an experiment" . I laughed at her sign and said to her "Too late honey, you already are... you're in the control group". She told me to "**** off!"

It was very satisfying to get under her skin like that, and even more so, when I was walking back from the bank on the other side of the road about 15 minutes later and I saw that she wasn't holding up a sign any longer.

 

[Belz...]

What good are all these vaccinations? Until they stop the illegals from crossing our southern border we will always be at risk of it spreading

You mean, until they vaccinate the people who cross at the border, right?

 

[Belz...]

I would support it being required by law.

Same here. Like seatbelts and plenty of other things, it's a matter of public health and national security.

 

[acbytesla]

I had a brief verbal exchange yesterday with an anti-vax protestor outside our local vaccination clinic when I was on my way down the street to the bank. She was holding up a sign that said "I will not take part in an experiment" . I laughed at her sign and said to her "Too late honey, you already are... you're in the control group". She told me to "**** off!"

Two billion people have received at least 1 shot. At what point is it no longer an experiment?