Merged Bobby Menard has "something" coming! / Menard's Newest Scam...

[gmanontario]

Thats the usual Bobby debate strategy. . .say something that sounds smart and hope the marks stay ignorant.

Bobby, at this point you are changing your business plan, not to meet zoning requirements, but just to respond to critical posts on a forum.

You have no idea how the valley would work.

But making it work is not the plan is it, Bobby? The plan is to fool the investor/marks long enough to get some of their money, right?



Congratulations, Bobby, by showing you didn't bother to learn what the land is zoned for you have shown your potential clients that you really don't have clue.

Word games can't cover up that sort of negligence

A few days ago you said the land was zoned for agricultural use. Now the "vision" is that artist valley is little more than a subdivision where neighbors borrow each other's lawn mowers.

How very bourgeoisie.

That swooshing sound is potential clients running away.

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Dope Clock II: It's been 31 days since Bobby Menard announced plans to create "Artists Valley". So far all he has done is lie through his teeth!

I'm the one that's thick yet Bobby hasn't read the local land zoning and land use bylaws. Nice lawyering there coward.
Too stupid to bother learning too it seems, it's much easier to lie continually. I did notice he didn't try to refuse the conman and grifter mentions, only the forward that is there because he ran like a scared school girl from the courts in Toronto. Of course they have better things to do than chase a minor lowlife like him..

What is it with idiots like him that think anonymity is a bad thing? Would anyone really want a parasitic loser and serial liar telling his clueless acquaintances to harass them?

Keep on losing Bobby. It looks good on you. One clue for the clueless. I was at your Oshawa "event". That more than anything clued me in as to how dumb you are and how much you lie. Enjoy losing yet again.

 

[gmanontario]

So what's the over/under on the date Bobby will announce failure due to "the man and his wild regulations"? Maybe it'll be those darn fees he will not pay because that money is better spent on weed and Mosseheads.
PEI is a small place and very strict on land use and zoning regulations. You're not the boss of me letters (the extent of his legal knowledge) will yet again fail.

 

[arayder]

I'm the one that's thick yet Bobby hasn't read the local land zoning and land use bylaws. Nice lawyering there coward.
Too stupid to bother learning too it seems, it's much easier to lie continually. I did notice he didn't try to refuse the conman and grifter mentions, only the forward that is there because he ran like a scared school girl from the courts in Toronto. Of course they have better things to do than chase a minor lowlife like him...

What I don't get is why the marks can't figure out that Bobby is not going to be able start the artist valley project, much less complete it.

By his own admission he has no bank account and no money to start the process.

It's unlikely any business is going to deal with him. Besides his poverty he has a bench warrant out on him and an awful reputation anyone can find in 5 minutes on the web.

He won't follow a single government regulation and won't even use his SIN.

He has zero experience in real estate or project development and hasn't talked about having a partner in the field to help.

He doesn't understand local zoning restrictions.

He's frequently drunk, especially when he's under any pressure.

Besides that he's got the whole package.

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Dope Clock II: It's been 31 days since Bobby Menard announced plans to create "Artists Valley". So far all he has done is lie through his teeth!

 

[arayder]

So what's the over/under on the date Bobby will announce failure due to "the man and his wild regulations"? Maybe it'll be those darn fees he will not pay because that money is better spent on weed and Mosseheads.
PEI is a small place and very strict on land use and zoning regulations. You're not the boss of me letters (the extent of his legal knowledge) will yet again fail.

The MO with freeman valley was that he just stopped talking about it. When pressed he acted like he was a freeman entrepreneur who had so many irons in the fire that he couldn't be bothered with explaining why one project didn't catch fire.

But that was over a decade ago. Since then he's zero for life including a couple of schemes that involved questionable legality.

My guess that he'll drink up what he skims off the project and then start another scam.

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Dope Clock II: It's been 31 days since Bobby Menard announced plans to create "Artists Valley". So far all he has done is lie through his teeth!

 

[arayder]

Listen up freeman lurkers. . .

This is what your guru, Bobby Menard, is getting you into with artists valley. . .

There is no zoning category in Souris for multi family farms without them going in as part of a corporate entity.

What, Bobby didn't tell you that before you pay your money and you pitch your tent to start building your shelter you were going to have to become the vassals of a corporation?

Bobby Inc.?

Since Bobby has vowed to follow the rules you are going to have to bend to government regulations which require you to have environmental procedures for any kind of shop you might build that uses environmentally harmful products.

And your shop must pass inspection, follow and post all safety rules and regulations. . .because Bobby Inc. fixed it so you have to.

Or could it be that Bobby never thought all this through and the whole artist valley pitch was just a come-on he developed to get people to stop talking about his drinking problem?

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Dope Clock II: It's been 31 days since Bobby Menard announced plans to create "Artists Valley". So far all he has done is lie through his teeth!

 

[arayder]

Which is it Bobby?

Bobby, a few hours ago you boasted that I had never laid a glove on you.

Robert Menard
. . . [Austin] really is pathetic. . . .so ineffectual, that he is a laughing stock. He has written dozens of letters trying to hinder me and has been completely ineffectual at all turns. It must really get his goat!

But when you tried to sue me a few years ago your filing claimed I'd had several of your "shows" canceled and you asked for $50,000 in damages.

You complained to the moderators at Quatloos that Bernaby49 and I had "ruined your life".

When you stole the intellectual property (i.e. the name) of the German company, Real 3 Games, for one of your scams I publicly outed you, informed the company of your theft. . . and you crawled off like a dog.

There's plenty more. Wanna' hear 'em all, Moosehead Man?

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Dope Clock II: It's been 31 days since Bobby Menard announced plans to create "Artists Valley". So far all he has done is lie through his teeth!

 

[gmanontario]

This is what your guru, Bobby Menard, is getting you into with artists valley. . .

There is no zoning category in Souris for multi family farms without them going in as part of a corporate entity.

What, Bobby didn't tell you that before you pay your money and you pitch your tent to start building your shelter you were going to have to become the vassals of a corporation?

Bobby Inc.?

Since Bobby has vowed to follow the rules you are going to have to bend to government regulations which require you to have environmental procedures for any kind of shop you might build that uses environmentally harmful products.

And your shop must pass inspection, follow and post all safety rules and regulations. . .because Bobby Inc. fixed it so you have to.

Or could it be that Bobby never thought all this through and the whole artist valley pitch was just a come-on he developed to get people to stop talking about his drinking problem?

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Dope Clock II: It's been 31 days since Bobby Menard announced plans to create "Artists Valley". So far all he has done is lie through his teeth!

Don't forget, the first step before anything is the rezoning application. Paid for by the applicants and could take up to a year worst case iscenario (Bobby is involved remember). Also there is a fairly long list of working farm rules including environmental assessments, pesticide and herbicide application permits, runoff abatement requirements and the big one, all buildings on the property used for habitation must be connected to the municipal water and sewer system. No wells and no septic allowed. He might be able to use tanks for water and waste but that brings up a whole new bag of rules and requirements. All of that list is charged to the property owner as well as building permits, code inspections and utility connecting.

He's probably glad we can't post on his Facebook. Knowledgeable people are banned right away. I hope his legal rep gets paid in advance.

 

[arayder]

Don't forget, the first step before anything is the rezoning application. Paid for by the applicants and could take up to a year worst case iscenario (Bobby is involved remember). Also there is a fairly long list of working farm rules including environmental assessments, pesticide and herbicide application permits, runoff abatement requirements and the big one, all buildings on the property used for habitation must be connected to the municipal water and sewer system. No wells and no septic allowed. He might be able to use tanks for water and waste but that brings up a whole new bag of rules and requirements. All of that list is charged to the property owner as well as building permits, code inspections and utility connecting.

He's probably glad we can't post on his Facebook. Knowledgeable people are banned right away. I hope his legal rep gets paid in advance.

Artists valley is a pipe dream turned into a scam. Menard is seeking investors for a "project" he clearly has NO capacity to start, much less complete.

What's amazing is that Bobby couldn't do enough research to make the pitch seem believable. That he thought he could float a sham like this is an insult to freemen.

IMHO, the "project" and it's promotion borders on fraud. I believe Bobby knew very well that he hadn't done the work necessary to honestly start the "project".

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Dope Clock II: It's been 32 days since Bobby Menard announced plans to create "Artists Valley". So far all he has done is lie through his teeth!

 

[gmanontario]

Artists valley is a pipe dream turned into a scam. Menard is seeking investors for a "project" he clearly has NO capacity to start, much less complete.

What's amazing is that Bobby couldn't do enough research to make the pitch seem believable. That he thought he could float a sham like this is an insult to freemen.

IMHO, the "project" and it's promotion borders on fraud. I believe Bobby knew very well that he hadn't done the work necessary to honestly start the "project".

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Dope Clock II: It's been 32 days since Bobby Menard announced plans to create "Artists Valley". So far all he has done is lie through his teeth!

Yeah I am retired so I had lots of time and the resources to peruse the claims he was making assuming that the plot of land is the one previously identified.

It's dead before it starts simply because the cost of the land is just the beginning of a long journey to fulfill his fantasy and all the while land taxes must be paid while the process is in action. The cost is NOT insignificant.

Another failure to add to his long list of failures. Hey Bobby, I'm flying on government ID soon to Alberta for vacation. I'm allowed to fly.

I'm hoping to bring back a classic car by driving it back. Yeah I have a license and insurance. I'll park it in the garage of my mortgage-free home before getting it restored. Life sucks when you're a broke and grifting loser doesn't it? I'm the thick one though.

 

[EvilBiker]

I find it hilarious that he whines about people stalking his FB page while he is clearly stalking this thread

 

[arayder]

I find it hilarious that he whines about people stalking his FB page while he is clearly stalking this thread

Yeah, there's one set of rules for Bobby and another set for the rest of us.

And after stalking here he seems to have a problem with gmanontario's jab about traveling freely.

Robert Menard
The height of stupidity is claiming that because you are 'allowed' to travel, (or do anything else) you are free.
If one needs to be 'allowed' to engage in an action, they are far from free. It means they can be disallowed as well. Which means you are not free at all and never were.
I travel freely. Not because I am 'allowed', but because I have the right to do so and no one can claim I need their permission to do so.
Personally,. I would much rather live my life not needing permission, then needing it and having to beg for it.
He who must beg (apply, petition, ask) is not freer than one who needs no such permission.
Some people are simply too thick to see this obvious truth.

One of his commenters says that voyaging on somebody else's plane or boat means one has to "come aboard. . . only by their rules".

Embarrassingly, Bobby "I-don't-know-what-argument-I'm-making-today" Menard doesn't realize that the airlines he tried unsuccessfully to bully a few years ago were acting in commerce. . .when, by his own theory, government has the authority to regulate.

Duh, Bobby.

But, let's be real. Bobby can't travel freely because he doesn't have the means and he's wanted in Ontario so he has to get in the trunk when he hitches a ride through the province.

I swear I have never seen a more helpless 58 year-old in my life.

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Dope Clock II: It's been 32 days since Bobby Menard announced plans to create "Artists Valley". So far all he has done is lie through his teeth!

 

[arayder]

Yeah I am retired so I had lots of time and the resources to peruse the claims he was making assuming that the plot of land is the one previously identified.

It's dead before it starts simply because the cost of the land is just the beginning of a long journey to fulfill his fantasy and all the while land taxes must be paid while the process is in action. The cost is NOT insignificant.

One of Bobby's favorite ruses is to claim he has a rich friend backing the project.

I am a little surprised he didn't pull that rusty this time since the time, money and planning involved in building the valley are clearly waaaay outside his capabilities.

Could it be that Bobby is so addled by years of brews and bongs that he can't run his scams anymore?

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Dope Clock II: It's been 32 days since Bobby Menard announced plans to create "Artists Valley". So far all he has done is lie through his teeth!

 

[arayder]

Hey Bobby, I'm flying on government ID soon to Alberta for vacation. I'm allowed to fly.

I'm hoping to bring back a classic car by driving it back. Yeah I have a license and insurance. I'll park it in the garage of my mortgage-free home before getting it restored. Life sucks when you're a broke and grifting loser doesn't it? I'm the thick one though.

Well said.

As I have often pointed out Menard is one of the least free men in Canada. The idea that he's going to plan and build artist valley without a driver's license, SIN and a bank account is a laughable.

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Dope Clock II: It's been 33 days since Bobby Menard announced plans to create "Artists Valley". So far all he has done is lie through his teeth!

 

[gmanontario]

Well said.

As I have often pointed out Menard is one of the least free men in Canada. The idea that he's going to plan and build artist valley without a driver's license, SIN and a bank account is a laughable.

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Dope Clock II: It's been 33 days since Bobby Menard announced plans to create "Artists Valley". So far all he has done is lie through his teeth!

Hopefully I'll also have a 1958 Pontiac Strato Chief too. Station wagon like my parents had. Poor dummy Bobby doesn't seem to realize he can travel anywhere in Canada (except Toronto) but that doesn't require any private service to accommodate him whatsoever. Walking or cycling is his only acceptable form of travel. But we know he bums rides from the gullible fools of his pathetic flock.

Hey Bobby. Can you travel to England? If not why not? I'm free to go anywhere my passport allows. I'm free to fly any airline I choose. Next year we are going on a river cruise on the Danube. Enjoy your life Bobby. I'm sure your happy being a broke loser

Cue the word salad and idiotic interpretations of common words..

 

[arayder]

Bobby,

Society doesn't have to call you a grandma killer. You already got enough names to fill a book.

We got a name (conman) for a guy who cheats ACCP subscribers out of their money. . .three times.

There's a name (drunken dupe) for guy who creates a registry of freeman peace officers and then sends the list to the authorities so they'll be sure to know where each of the freemen live.

They got a name (scammer) for a guy who sells useless legal advise packets to gullible people like Lance thatcher and Lisa Chamberlain.

There's a name (liar) for a guy who makes up stories claiming to do this or that just so he'll look like a big man in his little sub-culture.

Society has a name (thief) for a guy who steals the names of valid business and puts those names on his phony investment seeking businesses.

There's a name (ponzi artist) for a guy who pretends to create freedom communes.

Betcha daddy had some names for ya' too, Bobby.

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Dope Clock II: It's been 33 days since Bobby Menard announced plans to create "Artists Valley". So far all he has done is lie through his teeth!

 

[arayder]

A bad idea recycled. . .

See "artiest valley 2010". Bobby's pitch for freeman valley from back in his salad days:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1CTRMSyWLE

Never happened, did it, Bobby?

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Dope Clock II: It's been 34 days since Bobby Menard announced plans to create "Artists Valley". So far all he has done is lie through his teeth!

 

[arayder]

Bobby defends lowlifes. . .

Some folks may have wondered why Bobby would defend Lisa Chamberlain, the operator of a filthy puppy mill.

But defending lowlifes is not a new thing for Bobby. Years ago he tried to use his magic paperwork to defend Quintin Earl Sonagle who ran a Ponzi scheme that bilked millions of dollars out of investors.*

See the Youtube below in which Bobby, in his early fez period, attempted to threaten an official of the Nova Scotia Securities Commission with a load of freeman mumbo jumbo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YGsGhrbn7c&t=6s

As always, Bobby's fantasy was not fulfilled. But lying Bobby was perfectly happy to leave the impression that he had bested an evil government bureaucracy. It turns out Sonagle failed to pay a court ordered restitution, and instead did a Bobby-like bunny run to Panama, was eventually extradited and convicted in the open light of the Nova Scotia courts.**

Sonagle, the sort of person Bobby seems to admire, extracted money from trusting and unsuspecting Canadian investors, some of whom were his friends and associates! How Bobby-like!

Makes one wonder if Bobby's taking a page from Sonagle's book to get the Artist Valley scam going?

*https://www.canadianfraudnews.com/q...anama-gets-probation-canada-5-years-pay-1-1m/
**https://www.saltwire.com/atlantic-c...ponagle-has-bail-hearing-delayed-again-36890/
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova...tin-sponagle-ordered-to-pay-victims-1.4105656

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Dope Clock II: It's been 37 days since Bobby Menard announced plans to create "Artists Valley". So far all he has done is lie through his teeth.

 

[arayder]

Bobby, I am laughing at your usual clumsy straw man argument.

The shame of your life is not that don't have much. It's that you are not free. Your legal, financial and mental health problems make it impossible for you to participate in society.

And watching you try to deny your attachment to money is laughable considering your attempts to wring it out of your marks or fool the government and the banks into recognizing your ACCP account.

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Dope Clock II: It's been 40 days since Bobby Menard announced plans to create "Artists Valley". So far all he has done is lie through his teeth.

 

[Hans]

Bobby, I am laughing at your usual clumsy straw man argument.

The shame of your life is not that don't have much. It's that you are not free. Your legal, financial and mental health problems make it impossible for you to participate in society.

And watching you try to deny your attachment to money is laughable considering your attempts to wring it out of your marks or fool the government and the banks into recognizing your ACCP account.

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Dope Clock II: It's been 40 days since Bobby Menard announced plans to create "Artists Valley". So far all he has done is lie through his teeth.

Yes if he was truly 'free' he could walk into that one certain province's high court - tell them he dared them to arrest him. They couldn't according to his magic and he could walk out - but then while he acts nuts he isn't and wouldn't dare try that...lol

 

[arayder]

Bobby, I am laughing at your usual clumsy straw man argument.

The shame of your life is not that you don't have much. It's that you are not free. Your legal, financial and mental health problems make it impossible for you to participate in society.

And watching you try to deny your attachment to money is laughable considering your attempts to wring it out of your marks or fool the government and the banks into recognizing your ACCP account.

Yes if he was truly 'free' he could walk into that one certain province's high court - tell them he dared them to arrest him. They couldn't according to his magic and he could walk out - but then while he acts nuts he isn't and wouldn't dare try that...lol

Right now Bobby's trying to pave the way for backing out of the Artist Valley scheme. He realizes there's going to be a load of zoning, water and livestock regulations involved and realizes he's going to look like a good little sheeple when he shows up at the authorities' door with his required paperwork.

So he's publicly complaining about land use and livestock regulations in P.E.I.

This is the same gambit he went through when he tried to make a vitamin supplement in the early 2000's. As soon as pure food a drug boys contacted him he went all freeman, bitched and moaned and then walked away.

It's anybody's guess what part of Bobby is lazy, running investment scams or just hears his ole daddy's "who-gonna-fail" voice in his head.

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Dope Clock II: It's been 40 days since Bobby Menard announced plans to create "Artists Valley". So far all he has done is lie through his teeth.