Have you been vaccinated?

Have you been vaccinated?

  • Yes, I am fully vaccinated.

    Votes: 172 86.4%
  • I have received 1 vaccination shot

    Votes: 17 8.5%
  • No, I intend to but haven't got around to it.

    Votes: 3 1.5%
  • No, There are personal medical reasons that I should not receive the vaccine

    Votes: 1 0.5%
  • No, COVID is a hoax. The vaccine is part of some Communist plot.

    Votes: 4 2.0%
  • No, God will protect me. You cannot trust science.

    Votes: 2 1.0%

  • Total voters
    199
Door to Door Gestapo Is Coming..... Not to MY DOOR.

We might as well be in China and/or North Korea
I realize you are probably exaggerating deliberately, but in general, I'm troubled by this kind of rhetoric. The US isn't anywhere near China or North Korea. It veered dangerously close towards the Nazi Germany ditch for four years, but the strong reaction to that seems to have stabilized it, at least for now. But China and North Korea? I always find it to be either really ignorant, or incredibly disrespectful to the people living under those regimes.

Read up on how China has handled the corona pandemic. They literally boarded up peoples' doors and windows. In the US, authorities have been struggling to get people to wear masks and maintain social distancing.

Police officers beating up peaceful protesters? Polling places closing to keep "the wrong people" from voting? The sitting president inventing election fraud and inciting his followers to storm the Capitol? The way people reject science and journalism, while conspiracy theories grow more and more mainstream? That's the things you should worry about if you fear the US turning into a dictatorship.

People showing up to your door to sing the praises of the vaccine, like a couple Mormon missionaries asking you if you've heard of the Lord and saviour? That's pretty low on the list.

Question: when none of this happens, will that make you reconsider your sources and your worldview? I keep hearing of these things that will happen, like Trump returning like he's the Messiah or something, some huge Nuremberg-like trial of the people in charge of vaccination, or Obama killing all the Christians, or but they never materialize. When this happens, does it not make you ask yourself if maybe you're being manipulated?

Vit C, Vit D, Zinc, Quercetin, Grape Seed Extract does the job.
I understand the appeal in believing this. Believe me, I do, I wish it worked this way, too. A pandemic is a chaotic, large, and scary situation, and we all wish there were simple solutions like just taking your vitamins or buying some specific supplement. Unfortunately, it isn't that easy, as evidenced by four million having succumbed to covid so far.
 
Yeah the Gestapo is well known for making suggestions and then leaving you be.

Often, here in Winter, when the Gestapo local police stop you for a sobriety check, they'll give you an ice scraper for your car windows. There is no end to their abuse! :cool:
 
Often, here in Winter, when the Gestapo local police stop you for a sobriety check, they'll give you an ice scraper for your car windows. There is no end to their abuse! :cool:

I even hear tell they'll feed you cold soup!!!





A wait... that was The Gaspacho, sorry.
 
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Now, that's funny. (And I'm assuming you misspelled 'gazpacho' on purpose. :D )

Thanks, yep the spelling of Gaspacho was intentional. Though, apparently it is a Portuguese spelling of the name. However, the misspelling of "Ah" as just "A" wasn't intentional .
 
I received my second shot today. Glad I did. It was the pharmacy's last dose of the Pfizer vaccine.
 
I received my second shot today. Glad I did. It was the pharmacy's last dose of the Pfizer vaccine.

Happy V2 day then, hope no ill effects come your way. Mine was suppose to be the J&J single dose, but then they put a hold on it at that time. So they gave us the Moderna instead. Never noticed anything on either shot, except for the first one, my tinnitus seemed a bit to the higher side of normal.
 
Happy V2 day then, hope no ill effects come your way. Mine was suppose to be the J&J single dose, but then they put a hold on it at that time. So they gave us the Moderna instead. Never noticed anything on either shot, except for the first one, my tinnitus seemed a bit to the higher side of normal.

The pharmacist said some people feel out of sorts. He said he felt that way the day after his second dose. But I have always been skeptical when people attribute not feeling well to something specific. As if they know the reason for how they are feeling.

You know. Post hoc, ergo propter hoc.

But we will see.
 
The pharmacist said some people feel out of sorts. He said he felt that way the day after his second dose. But I have always been skeptical when people attribute not feeling well to something specific. As if they know the reason for how they are feeling.



You know. Post hoc, ergo propter hoc.



But we will see.
I think it is a typical enough result and given there is a sensible and plausible enough explanation for that outcome to assign it some provisional credibility.

A good number of the symptoms of any viral infection are your own body's natural defenses at work. A substance intended to simulate the presence of a virus would be expected to bring on such symptoms as mild fever, aches, and fatigue. Your body is trying to make the guest feel unwelcome.

I have heard it described as a form of self-induced low-grade chemotherapy.

Also, resources typically used to keep you operating at full capacity are being used to mass-produce immune system components. Like a country mobilizing for war, sorry no ball bearings for passenger vehicles right now, we need to build tanks.
 
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I think it is a typical enough result and given there is a sensible and plausible enough explanation for that outcome to assign it some provisional credibility.

A good number of the symptoms of any viral infection are your own body's natural defenses at work. A substance intended to simulate the presence of a virus would be expected to bring on such symptoms as mild fever, aches, and fatigue. Your body is trying to make the guest feel unwelcome.

I have heard it described as a form of self-induced low-grade chemotherapy.

Also, resources typically used to keep you operating at full capacity are being used to mass-produce immune system components. Like a country mobilizing for war, sorry no ball bearings for passenger vehicles right now, we need to build tanks.

Low grade chemotherapy? I don't buy that description. I've done a lot of volunteering for the American Cancer Society. It and Planned Parenthood are the two charities I give to every year.
I have spent a lot of time with patients particularly children undergoing chemo. People's reaction to chemo are almost immediate and usually involves vomiting, hair loss and sometimes other symptoms.

The mRNA vaccine is absolutely nothing like chemo.
 
Low grade chemotherapy? I don't buy that description. I've done a lot of volunteering for the American Cancer Society. It and Planned Parenthood are the two charities I give to every year.

I have spent a lot of time with patients particularly children undergoing chemo. People's reaction to chemo are almost immediate and usually involves vomiting, hair loss and sometimes other symptoms.



The mRNA vaccine is absolutely nothing like chemo.
Jesus christ, it's an analogy.
 
Low grade chemotherapy? I don't buy that description. I've done a lot of volunteering for the American Cancer Society. It and Planned Parenthood are the two charities I give to every year.
I have spent a lot of time with patients particularly children undergoing chemo. People's reaction to chemo are almost immediate and usually involves vomiting, hair loss and sometimes other symptoms.

The mRNA vaccine is absolutely nothing like chemo.

Not all chemo has those side effects. My mom underwent 3 years of chemo for cervical cancer and never got sick or lost her hair. It all depends on the type of chemo drugs that are used.
 
I think it is a typical enough result and given there is a sensible and plausible enough explanation for that outcome to assign it some provisional credibility.

A good number of the symptoms of any viral infection are your own body's natural defenses at work. A substance intended to simulate the presence of a virus would be expected to bring on such symptoms as mild fever, aches, and fatigue. Your body is trying to make the guest feel unwelcome.

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Yep, one of the problems of being on immunosuppressants, as some of us are here. Vaccines tend to be less effective. As the very immunological response they are intended to invoke is somewhat suppressed by such medications. I stopped taking them for the 2 vaccine times, but there is still a system residual.
 
Does this help answer your question? The CPAC audience cheered when it was mentioned that the country failed to meet the July 4th vaccination goal.

And I've been castigated for calling Trump supporters idiots. I will continue to do so because they are.

What's wrong with calling idiots idiots?
 
Why should Trump supporters take the vaccine if Joe Biden's just going to get the credit? That makes no logical sense.
 

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