Have you been vaccinated?

Have you been vaccinated?

  • Yes, I am fully vaccinated.

    Votes: 172 86.4%

  • I have received 1 vaccination shot

    Votes: 17 8.5%

  • No, I intend to but haven't got around to it.

    Votes: 3 1.5%

  • No, There are personal medical reasons that I should not receive the vaccine

    Votes: 1 0.5%

  • No, COVID is a hoax. The vaccine is part of some Communist plot.

    Votes: 4 2.0%

  • No, God will protect me. You cannot trust science.

    Votes: 2 1.0%
  • Total voters
    199
Warp12 said:
Maybe, but who cares? You makes the choice, you takes the chances.
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Except that refusing immunisation puts other people at risk too.

I'm all for the personal freedom to do what you want to yourself, but vaccines don't just affect you, they affect everyone.
 
It's like saying "I'm not saying other people in the inflatable life raft have to take off their baseball cleats, I'm just saying it's my right to not too..."
 
I didn't say it wasn't going to protect me. The point of a vaccination programme is to get the vast majority of the population vaccinated. Do you know why?
 
acbytesla said:
Are you joking? Is there is no one in your life at all? If that is the case, I'm sorry.

You should keep in mind, that the vaccine is two injections TWENTY DAYS apart. If your work wants you to start going to the office next month they probably will have expected you to have received your vaccine by now.
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I live alone with my dog. I'm fine and don't need, or even want, your pity.

The current guidance is next fiscal year. So October. They will not require vaccines, but I'm looking at getting it done in September if the tea leaves don't change. There is some thought that we also might get telework made permanent. Current telework agreement is going into the office 1 day a week, so 0 days wouldn't be that much of a difference.
 
Leftus said:
I live alone with my dog. I'm fine and don't need, or even want, your pity.

The current guidance is next fiscal year. So October. They will not require vaccines, but I'm looking at getting it done in September if the tea leaves don't change. There is some thought that we also might get telework made permanent. Current telework agreement is going into the office 1 day a week, so 0 days wouldn't be that much of a difference.
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Why? Why trust vaccines in September more than now?
 
JoeMorgue said:
It's like saying "I'm not saying other people in the inflatable life raft have to take off their baseball cleats, I'm just saying it's my right to not too..."
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I'm not getting into that raft. I'm in my own boat, not taking on water, or other passengers. My shoe choice has zero impact on anyone else.
 
Leftus said:
I'm not getting into that raft. I'm in my own boat, not taking on water, or other passengers. My shoe choice has zero impact on anyone else.
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The raft is everyone. You can't get out of the raft. I'm not buying that you either can or will really stay hermetically sealed in your house with zero human contact until this whole thing blows over, if ever. You are aware that it might, in a very real sense, never actually go away right?
 
COLONEL said:
Then why get it if it is not going to protect you?
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Your question is a good question.

It is important to understand that viruses reproduce and go through generations in seconds not years like animal life. Each generation is not necessarily a perfect replication but is an evolution of the previous generation. Those evolutions can make the virus more transmissible or less, more benign or more deadly than the previous generations. As I understand it the mRNA vaccine is powerful and seems to offer protection to multiple variants of the COVID virus but our understanding of this is not complete. So let's say COVID evolves within the unvaccinated population to a deadly more transmissible variant like the Delta variant. But the vaccine is ineffective against that variant. By not getting the vaccination, you may possibly be inviting that to happen

Here's a more complete but by no means a comprehensive article about this.

Two simple facts contribute to this answer. First: Vaccines aren’t 100 percent effective. So even some people who are vaccinated will still be at risk. Second: The greater the number of unvaccinated people in a community, the more opportunity germs have to spread. This means outbreaks are more difficult to stem and everyone is at greater risk of exposure — including vaccinated people.
https://www.chop.edu/news/feature-article-if-vaccines-work-why-do-unvaccinated-people-pose-risk
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But virology is a difficult subject to understand. Here are list of concepts that demonstrate the complexity of the subject.

  • Many viruses target specific hosts or tissues. Some may have more than one host.
  • Many viruses follow several stages to infect host cells. These stages include attachment, penetration, uncoating, biosynthesis, maturation, and release.
  • Bacteriophages have a lytic or lysogenic cycle. The lytic cycle leads to the death of the host, whereas the lysogenic cycle leads to integration of phage into the host genome.
  • Bacteriophages inject DNA into the host cell, whereas animal viruses enter by endocytosis or membrane fusion.
  • Animal viruses can undergo latency, similar to lysogeny for a bacteriophage.
  • The majority of plant viruses are positive-strand ssRNA and can undergo latency, chronic, or lytic infection, as observed for animal viruses.
  • The growth curve of bacteriophage populations is a one-step multiplication curve and not a sigmoidal curve, as compared to the bacterial growth curve.
  • Bacteriophages transfer genetic information between hosts using either generalized or specialized transduction.
 
I should take the medical opinion of somebody who cannot even spell "immune" correctly seriously.
Sad to see a couple people here who are genrally on the political left buy into the Antivaxer crap. And that is just what it is:Crap.
 
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