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Merged General Holocaust denial discussion Part IV

TheSupermeerkat said:
If you can't trust a Nazi, then who can you trust?
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You can surely trust Raul Hilberg, dean of the holohoax historians, who in this rare footage (part of a PBS interview that was not broadcast) admits there is no evidence linking Hitler to the hoax .... https://www.bitchute.com/video/I12BCjlgl282/
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"Elie Wiesel and other survivors sometimes ask, ‘Where was God?’
The German prosecutors, the political scientists, the historians, ask a more modest question - ‘Where was Adolf Hitler?’"
 
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Another Nazi denying the holohoax -- I usually only pay attention to the hoax in the camps, but there is another side of it, the hoax on the eastern front. This is a particularly articulate account of the role of the Einsatzgruppen that I just became aware of ....
Otto Ohlendorf denies the hoax
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Saggy said:
You can surely trust Raul Hilberg, dean of the holohoax historians, who in this rare footage (part of a PBS interview that was not broadcast) admits there is no evidence linking Hitler to the hoax ....
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Which has **** all to do with whether it happened.

And by the way, yes, there IS evidence.
 
Belz... said:
Which has **** all to do with whether it happened.

And by the way, yes, there IS evidence.
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How true. Let's have a look - this is a photo taken from inside the hoax 'gas chamber' at Auschwitz shown to millions ....
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This was my touchstone I when I began studying the hoax. A gas chamber with an unsealed wooden door with a plate glass window. Only a complete fool would believe this idiocy.

Unfortunately there is no shortage of complete fools, and this preposterous 'gas chamber' as been shown to millions and is still being shown, without guffaws. One skeptical visitor, as recounted on scrapbookpages.com, recounts how she asked the guide why the Jews didn't break the glass and try to escape, and the guide answered that there was a guard stationed outside the chamber to shoot any escapees.

And yet, one did escape, you can hear her harrowing tale here ... she's still on the lecture circuit btw ....
https://www.bitchute.com/video/DnjA8o9dtiQy/
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The best introduction to the hoax is given by this vid ....
https://www.bitchute.com/video/Ul72dV4SbAoh/
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It begins ....
The hoax has three main components -
1. The Nazis planned to exterminate the Jews.
2. The Nazis built gas chambers to exterminate the Jews and disguised them as shower rooms.
3. The Nazis killed six million Jews.

Each component of the hoax is categorically false and completely without evidence. There was no Nazi plan to exterminate the Jews or anyone else, and no evidence of one has ever been found. The gas chambers disguised as shower rooms are pure phantasmagoria, and there is not a shred of physical evidence for them. The number of Jews killed in the camps for being Jews is zero, and it is well documented that the Nazis aggressively investigated any crime in the camps.

That is the hoax, and the reality

The big lie is the photos and film footage that are shown of Jewish prisoners who had been gassed by the Nazis. The truth is that all the photos and film were taken after the war by British and US soldiers, and showed prisoners of all nationalities and religions who had died of typhus at the very last weeks of the war, primarily at Belsen where 35,000 died, 10,000 after the camp had been liberated by the British. Further, the Nazis had done everything in their power to combat the epidemic.

And it documents the true provenance of the hoax photos we've all seen since birth. Watch it and will learn the truth in the next hour in the comfort of your own home.
 
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Saggy said:
You can surely trust Raul Hilberg, dean of the holohoax historians, who in this rare footage (part of a PBS interview that was not broadcast) admits there is no evidence linking Hitler to the hoax .... https://www.bitchute.com/video/I12BCjlgl282/
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"Elie Wiesel and other survivors sometimes ask, ‘Where was God?’
The German prosecutors, the political scientists, the historians, ask a more modest question - ‘Where was Adolf Hitler?’"
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You're dodging my initial question of why should I believe the statements of Nazis on trial for crimes against humanity. You just throw up another source.

You're clearly engaging on a gish gallop, an attempt to overwhelm an opponent by excessive number of arguments, without regard for the accuracy or strength of those arguments.

Anyway, so Hitler didn't know about the "hoax"? He didn't know about a thing that didn't happen?
 
Where did all the people go?

If the Holocaust was a total fake and/or ridiculously inflated, where did all the people go? Why did 6 millions jews just...vanish over the space of less than a decade? What about all the Slavs? There were millions of them too and they just...disappeared once the Nazis occupied the land they were living on.

Communists! Hundreds of thousands of Communists, Socialists and other political enemies of the Reich. All just blinked out of existence.

Jehovas Witnesses. Hundreds of them. Thousands of Romani. Thousands of disabled people and homosexuals, all just up and disappeared into flying saucers or something.

Why did the number of Jews in Poland fall from about 3,474,000 people on September 1st 1939 to at most 800000 at the end of the war? Where did nearly (or possibly more than) 3 million people go?

This is the argument I always have with lunatics who think various events with large death tolls never happened like 9/11 Truthers. If 9/11 never happened, where did all the people go? If Sandy Hook was a hoax, why are there significantly less children there now? If the Holocaust never happened, where did all the Jews go?
 
Hitler was a terrible orator with a silly voice, his speeches are awful to those who are not already mired in his disgusting politics. He had charisma, I will grant him that, but it seems to have been entirely based on 1-2-1 or small groups. Whenever he gave a speech to a large crowd he just seemed like a silly puffed up little failure of a man. Which is exactly what he was of course.

What kind of useless simpleton controls the vote so tightly and yet never breaks 40% in any election? Robert Mugabe and Mumar Gaddaffi would have been ashamed.

Now Stalin, there was a man who had a lot of charisma. His speeches were impressive, and you could almost fall for the lie he was feeding you. Almost, until you remembered the millions dead and starving due to his terrible agricultural revolution.
 
Yes they are. The Red Cross have categorically stated that the Holocaust happened.
 
Ok I have to give you a huge thank you Supermeerkat, because I feel god awful and I'm shivering and tender and my nose is blocked and you've just given me one of the biggest laughs I've had all day.
 
MarkCorrigan said:
Yes they are. The Red Cross have categorically stated that the Holocaust happened.
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Based on the Bad Arolsen documents, the Nazi documents captured by the Russians, and their own records, in 1984 the Red Cross has estimated the TOTAL number of deaths for all prisoners, including but not limited to Jews, in Nazi concentration camps to be 373,468.

The authenticity of the Red Cross estimates was verified in the trial of Ernst Zundel by the director of the International Tracing Service, see Zundelsite
 
MarkCorrigan said:
Ok I have to give you a huge thank you Supermeerkat, because I feel god awful and I'm shivering and tender and my nose is blocked and you've just given me one of the biggest laughs I've had all day.
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You're more than welcome. Send me any invoices for damaged equipment when you've recovered.
 
Wow a Nazi holocaust fringe reset.. Bringing out stuff debunked decades ago.
Really Saggy this is where Hitler worship has brought you too? lol.
 
Saggy said:
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Based on the Bad Arolsen documents, the Nazi documents captured by the Russians, and their own records, in 1984 the Red Cross has estimated the TOTAL number of deaths for all prisoners, including but not limited to Jews, in Nazi concentration camps to be 373,468.

The authenticity of the Red Cross estimates was verified in the trial of Ernst Zundel by the director of the International Tracing Service, see Zundelsite
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Are you outraged that your fascist bedfellows have been falsely accused or disappointed that the numbers are too low? One generally gets the feeling amongst nazi apologists that they're more embarrassed about failing to meet targets.
 
I'll say it again, you can' be a Nazi sympathizer and downplay the efficiency of the S.S. in regards to the final solution. If you want to be a Nazi you need to be proud of the Third Reich, not turn it into a victim.

You can't have it both ways.
 
Saggy said:
This was my touchstone I when I began studying the hoax. A gas chamber with an unsealed wooden door with a plate glass window.
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How do you know it was unsealed? How do you know it was plate glass? Present proof.
 
Just in case anyone was wondering about this claim about the doors, here's why it's not true:
the door pictured on the bottom right is NOT the homicidal gas chamber door of Auschwitz's Krematorium I, and isn't even claimed as such by any historian or reputable camp authority. What you are seeing instead, is the 2nd of two wooden doors in Krema I's enlarged gas chamber today, a building that underwent renovation in 1943 after homicidal gassings had been moved to Birkenau, and which was subsequently used as an air-raid shelter, as is stated in the sign in front of the building brought up to explain this to the million or so tourists that visit it each year.
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