Merged Australian Politics - The Morrison Period

[Thor 2]

Further to the above it seems most unusual for politicians to change their minds. Part of the reason for this maybe is that voters admire a politician for "sticking to his guns, even if they are pointed in the wrong direction". Someone more famous than I made this comment - can't remember who now.

 

[lionking]

Astra Zeneca has now been dumped as a covid vaccine. It was reported that Australia was offered 40 million doses of Pfizer last year but knocked it back.

Morrison put his house on AZ and lost big time. Of all his momentous blunders, this is the biggest.

As I have said repeatedly he deserves to lose the next election. And he just may, even to Albo.

 

[lionking]

Dupe

 

[arthwollipot]

Astra Zeneca has now been dumped as a covid vaccine.

I'm not seeing any reports of this. As far as I can tell it is still being offered to over-60s. Do you have a source?

 

[lionking]

I'm not seeing any reports of this. As far as I can tell it is still being offered to over-60s. Do you have a source?

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/fed...ctober-except-by-request-20210623-p583n6.html

Australia will likely not use the AstraZeneca vaccine after October except by request, with the national rollout to rely on Pfizer doses to immunise the nation against the coronavirus.

 

[arthwollipot]

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/fed...ctober-except-by-request-20210623-p583n6.html

Thanks. Interesting that this is what the SMH decided to highlight out of that report, since the Horizons document states "Given the size of the Australian population over 60, it is assumed that demand for AstraZeneca doses will reduce in Horizon 2 and be met by Horizon 3. However, AZ doses will be available if demand continues through Horizon 2 and 3."

Rather than it being "dumped", its usefulness given the current guidelines will be coming to a natural end.

Not disputing that the Government well and truly messed this up - especially by refusing the Pfizer. Just clarifying the "dumped" suggestion.

 

[lionking]

Thanks. Interesting that this is what the SMH decided to highlight out of that report, since the Horizons document states "Given the size of the Australian population over 60, it is assumed that demand for AstraZeneca doses will reduce in Horizon 2 and be met by Horizon 3. However, AZ doses will be available if demand continues through Horizon 2 and 3."

Rather than it being "dumped", its usefulness given the current guidelines will be coming to a natural end.

Not disputing that the Government well and truly messed this up - especially by refusing the Pfizer. Just clarifying the "dumped" suggestion.

Fair enough. Yes, the main issue is Morrison backing the wrong horse.

 

[arthwollipot]

Fair enough. Yes, the main issue is Morrison backing the wrong horse.

In a situation like this, you place bets on all the horses.

 

[arthwollipot]

Took a bit to catch up, but...

Federal government projects little need for AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine after October

 

[The Atheist]

In a situation like this, you place bets on all the horses.

I disagree.

Shutting Covid out gave both countries time to go with the best strategy rather than having a buck each way on all the vaccines.

Given the same time frame and scientific expertise, NZ adopted a 100% Pfizer strategy.

 

[Thor 2]

Took a bit to catch up, but...

Federal government projects little need for AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine after October

One gets the impression that AstraZeneca is being regarded as not the best choice. Not very reassuring for those of us that have had it.

 

[Norman Alexander]

dupe

 

[Norman Alexander]

It's all the negative hype about the blood clotting events. One or two of them out of millions of doses, and suddenly "I would rather not have it than risk that!" The odds are lower than winning the $20 million lottery, for which they will pay good money in the hope they DO win.

 

[arthwollipot]

This is fine. Everything is fine.

 

[Norman Alexander]

This is fine. Everything is fine.

These Nationals have the hearts of bulls! And the brains and arse to match.

 

[arthwollipot]

These Nationals have the hearts of bulls! And the brains and arse to match.

Following the Guardian liveblog is hugely entertaining. It just keeps getting better and better.

 

[Norman Alexander]

Following the Guardian liveblog is hugely entertaining. It just keeps getting better and better.

For very small values of "better".

 

[arthwollipot]

For very small values of "better".

Schadenfreudelicious. The whole kerfuffle was shut down by the Speaker and the Brussels Sprout.

 

[arthwollipot]

Hey, I bet you didn't know that South Australia doesn't need fresh water! The Nationals do.

 

[rjh01]

Hey, I bet you didn't know that South Australia doesn't need fresh water! The Nationals do.

Just checked. The Nationals do not hold any seats in SA. So there are no National MPs or Senators that need the water.