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Cont: The Trump Presidency: Part 28

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There are multiple reports that Trump wears Brioni suits, an expensive, high-end brand.
https://wwd.com/fashion-news/fashion-scoops/donald-trump-favors-brioni-10704594/
https://www.businessinsider.com/why-donald-trumps-suits-look-cheap-2016-11?op=1

It's hard to understand why Brioni lets him out the door looking like he does.

Agreed...but "the customer is always right" especially when he's paying big bucks. According to Ezra Lizio-Katzen, owner of the Washington menswear boutique Ezra Paul, Trump's suits look so bad “Because he’s wearing a suit size probably two sizes at least too big for him in order to not make it look like he’s got a big stomach and instead make it look like he’s just a big guy."
 
No.

It's the same reason we shouldn't be calling female Republicans fat and ugly.

Yes and no, the spray tan, ill fitting suits and so forth are judgement things and I think are not the same as criticizing say his balance issues on walking on the boobytrapped ramp at westpoint.

""So I walked gingerly down — that was on every newscast in the world and I never went down," Trump said, despite there should have been no danger of him falling while walking down the ramp. "I never went down, either, I never went on my ass, I'll tell you, I wasn't going to fall."

"I think that was a boobytrap," Trump said."

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-ramp/
 
According to the link, his suits are bespoke, not off the rack. But they certainly look like they're off the rack.

"Mr. Trump’s public association with Brioni goes back to 2004, when he wrote in “Trump: Think Like a Billionaire” that the brand supplied him with suits for “The Apprentice.” “I wear Brioni suits, which I buy off the rack,” he wrote. Brioni has a 220-square-foot store in the newly opened Trump International Hotel in Washington."

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/07/fashion/mens-style/donald-trump-brioni-martin-greenfield-suits.html
 
No.

It's the same reason we shouldn't be calling female Republicans fat and ugly.

Who is doing that? That would be Trump.

ETA: In addition, what female Republicans deserve mocking for being fat and ugly because of something they've done or said related to being "fat and ugly"? For example, has a fat and ugly female Republican criticized or made fun of someone else for being fat and ugly? If so, then she would deserve to be mocked for having done so.
 
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"Mr. Trump’s public association with Brioni goes back to 2004, when he wrote in “Trump: Think Like a Billionaire” that the brand supplied him with suits for “The Apprentice.” “I wear Brioni suits, which I buy off the rack,” he wrote. Brioni has a 220-square-foot store in the newly opened Trump International Hotel in Washington."

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/07/fashion/mens-style/donald-trump-brioni-martin-greenfield-suits.html

From the link above:

Trump has been a paying customer for many years, according to the Italian men’s wear brand, controlled by Kering. Responding to queries about the designs, Brioni said Trump’s suits are bespoke “and the silhouette and fabrics follow his personal requirements.”

Someone is wrong, either Brioni or Trump. I'm in a quandry as to whom, though: Trump is a pathological liar but his suits look like they're off the rack because of the poor fit.
 
The irony of the actual sound track that was used at the North Carolina GOP Convention last week while waiting for Trump to speak was off the charts. "Brain Damage"? :eye-poppi Brianna Keilar and John Berman have some fun with it:


https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics...rump-rallies-keilar-berman-newday-sot-vpx.cnn

When they play the Titanic's "My heart will go on" Brianna Keller can't hold the snickering back.

:dl:


I think all the stuff about Dump's tie or his pants is a distraction. He's a sloppy dresser is nuff said.
 
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I picture him less as a used-car salesman and more like a two-bit Multi-Level Marketing guy.

I imagine that he’d love to sell stocks over the phone, but doesn’t have the patience or the brain power to get any kind of license.
By his behavior, those fit, but, by the reaction to him from the loonies, he's more like Jesus to me. Not only were they both supposed to save their people from the evil oppressors, but also, once they failed, their followers started coming up with excuses and explanations about how his failure was really a success in some secret, possibly even supernatural, way.
 
No.

It's the same reason we shouldn't be calling female Republicans fat and ugly.

Despite a lingering urge to disparage whatever about T**** appears, I basically agree. If he had been an incontinent fat man with a bad suit who served the people and did the right thing, we'd be disparaging cheap abuse, just as some, at least, do when idiots and right wing shills rag on Biden for his stutter.
 
Except in Dump's case he does deserve to hear that's he's fat and ugly given he frequently calls women that.

Exactly my point. When someone mocks someone else for something and they have the same attributes or do the same thing, then they deserve to be mocked for it in return.
 
I don't see how that works well--it just back-doors undesirable pejoratives.

"We're not going to make fun of fat people for being fat, only the ones we don't like."

Having an unsympathetic target doesn't make fat-shaming any more appropriate--it just enables an "acceptable" way for the habit to continue.

Not to put too fine a point on it, but it reminds me of people that think they're being enlightened by refusing to use the n-word except on people that "deserve" it by exhibiting negative personality traits.
 
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Unfortunately, clothes do not make the man.

The Nazis had uniforms designed by Hugo Boss to look stylish. But they were still ******* Nazis.

So whether it's a lardass T**** in an ill-fitting suit, or a tailored long, thin streak of pelican **** like his advisor Miller, they are both obnoxious turds.
 
I don't see how that works well--it just back-doors undesirable pejoratives.

"We're not going to make fun of fat people for being fat, only the ones we don't like."

Having an unsympathetic target doesn't make fat-shaming any more appropriate--it just enables an "acceptable" way for the habit to continue.

Not to put too fine a point on it, but it reminds me of people that think they're being enlightened by refusing to use the n-word except on people that "deserve" it by exhibiting negative personality traits.


False equivalent because that's not what I said "deserving" was at all:

"When someone mocks someone else for something and they have the same attributes or do the same thing, then they deserve to be mocked for it in return."

"In addition, what female Republicans deserve mocking for being fat and ugly because of something they've done or said related to being "fat and ugly"? For example, has a fat and ugly female Republican criticized or made fun of someone else for being fat and ugly? If so, then she would deserve to be mocked for having done so."
 
Unfortunately, clothes do not make the man.

The Nazis had uniforms designed by Hugo Boss to look stylish. But they were still ******* Nazis.

So whether it's a lardass T**** in an ill-fitting suit, or a tailored long, thin streak of pelican **** like his advisor Miller, they are both obnoxious turds.




True. About the only good things that can be said about the Nazis are that they built the Autobahn, the Volkswagen, and had great looking uniforms.
 
False equivalent because that's not what I said "deserving" was at all:

"When someone mocks someone else for something and they have the same attributes or do the same thing, then they deserve to be mocked for it in return."

"In addition, what female Republicans deserve mocking for being fat and ugly because of something they've done or said related to being "fat and ugly"? For example, has a fat and ugly female Republican criticized or made fun of someone else for being fat and ugly? If so, then she would deserve to be mocked for having done so."

JESUS ******* CHRIST THIS ISN'T THAT HARD.

You don't get to use qualities that aren't bad in attacking someone just because the person is bad.

"It's okay to make fun of Trump for being fat/ugly/a bad dresser because he's a bad person so he deserves everything he gets" is still insulting to fat/ugly/bad dresser people who aren't Trump and who are perfectly good people.

And no "Trump has used those insults too! That surely makes it okay!" is not either.
 
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