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Cont: The Trump Presidency: Part 27

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Stephen Colbert tonight had an interesting take on Jeff Bezos buying MGM. MGM owns all the outtakes from The Apprentice. Those would be all the ones where Dump says all sorts of gawdawful things.

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Skeptic Ginger said:
Stephen Colbert tonight had an interesting take on Jeff Bezos buying MGM. MGM owns all the outtakes from The Apprentice. Those would be all the ones where Dump says all sorts of gawdawful things.

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Could they possibly be any worse than what he says in public anyway?
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
Stephen Colbert tonight had an interesting take on Jeff Bezos buying MGM. MGM owns all the outtakes from The Apprentice. Those would be all the ones where Dump says all sorts of gawdawful things.
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Might not have to wait that long.
A federal judge has ruled that unaired footage from President Trump‘s “Celebrity Apprentice” reality TV show should be handed over to investors who claim in a lawsuit that they were ripped off when Trump and his children repeatedly endorsed a troubled marketing company on the show.
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https://www.latimes.com/entertainme...and-over-trumps-apprentice-tapes-in-scam-suit
 
Stacyhs said:
I'm not sure about that. Michael Cohen says he never heard Trump use the N word even though he said lots of other racist things. The C-word? Who knows? We know he does like the P word.
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I wonder what Donny called the residents in his apartments in Queens who he had booted out on false pretenses in the 1980's? "My customers"??

Cohen was his lawyer, not his confidant.
 
Norman Alexander said:
I wonder what Donny called the residents in his apartments in Queens who he had booted out on false pretenses in the 1980's? "My customers"??

Cohen was his lawyer, not his confidant.
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Did you read Cohen's book? Cohen was a much a confidant to Trump as anyone could be; he trusted Cohen to handle things that he trusted no one else to do including clearly illegal and immoral things. Holding back on using the N word for 10 years wasn't something Trump was concerned with considering the many other racist things Cohen said Trump said in front of him that he reported hearing him say.
 
Bob001 said:
Might not have to wait that long.
https://www.latimes.com/entertainme...and-over-trumps-apprentice-tapes-in-scam-suit
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They haven't been asked to turnover ownership, just to let the tapes be seen by the plaintiffs:
U.S. District Judge Lorna Schofield in Manhattan on Thursday advised Hollywood studio Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer to find a way for the plaintiffs to view hundreds of hours of recordings from two episodes in which the principals of the multilevel marketing company, ACN Opportunity, were on-set guests.
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And given MGM has been stalling claiming
MGM, which took ownership of the popular program before Trump was elected, isn’t a party to the lawsuit, and it argued for months that complying with subpoenas from the plaintiffs would be burdensome because of the outdated technology and filing systems used for the episodes.
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Maybe Bezos can facilitate that.

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Stacyhs said:
Did you read Cohen's book? Cohen was a much a confidant to Trump as anyone could be; he trusted Cohen to handle things that he trusted no one else to do including clearly illegal and immoral things. Holding back on using the N word for 10 years wasn't something Trump was concerned with considering the many other racist things Cohen said Trump said in front of him that he reported hearing him say.
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I have read only a couple of extracts, it was all one would expect from a pathetic groveler to a mafioso. What I saw from that brief extract was a fixer, not a confidant. Donny's dad was an out-and-out racist of the first water. The fat rotten apple didn't fall far from the tree. Donny swears like a navvy. So it is highly probable he did and does use the N word.
 
Norman Alexander said:
I have read only a couple of extracts, it was all one would expect from a pathetic groveler to a mafioso. What I saw from that brief extract was a fixer, not a confidant. Donny's dad was an out-and-out racist of the first water. The fat rotten apple didn't fall far from the tree. Donny swears like a navvy. So it is highly probable he did and does use the N word.
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That's not the line.

Malicious use of racial slurs is a clear indicator of racism, yes, but Toupee Fiasco hardly needs it when he kicked off his presidential aspiratiocs, and his actual campaign, with a pair of plainly racist conspiracy theories (Birtherism, and the "Mexico is sending us drug-dealing rapists thing respectively)

His cultists will swear that any recording of him using a slur is fake. So...no value.
 
Belz... said:
I have neither. I take my fails.
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I doff my hat to you, sir.

My (hunt and peck) typing has always been abysmal under the best of circumstances, and encroaching years has done nothing to improve it.* Quite the contrary. :(

I read over every post at least twice before I submit it, and still end up editing for corrections way too often. Spellcheck has been a very good friend to me.

(*- By way of example, I had two typos in that sentence alone. That's actually pretty good for me. :blush: )
 
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"Those people".
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He uses that term when referring to any group he dislikes or who cross him or who he simply cannot find words from his limited vocabulary to describe - Blacks, Jews, liberals, business rivals, his bankers, the staff at Mar-a-Lago, China, his Russian mobster friends, family he has forgotten...

As a younger man he was not so feeble-minded, and also more pointedly vitriolic. He's used the N-word, for sure.
 
Norman Alexander said:
I have read only a couple of extracts, it was all one would expect from a pathetic groveler to a mafioso. What I saw from that brief extract was a fixer, not a confidant. Donny's dad was an out-and-out racist of the first water. The fat rotten apple didn't fall far from the tree. Donny swears like a navvy. So it is highly probable he did and does use the N word.
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So, the answer is 'no'. What you saw from the brief bits you read is just that "a couple of extracts". I have read his book and he was more than just "a fixer". He lays it on the line: Trump is an out and out racist. There is no reason for him NOT to say he heard him use the N word if he had. And he doesn't. Your "highly probable" does not come anywhere near Cohen's ten years of being Trump's personal lawyer. Others would disagree with you that he was not Trump's 'confidant', but I suppose you could be right and they could all be wrong. After all, you have read a couple of extracts.

Cohen was once a member of Trump's inner circle and a trusted confidant.
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https://www.businessinsider.com/mic...-behind-bars-ny-criminal-investigation-2021-5

The FBI raided the office of Michael Cohen, a personal lawyer and confidant of President Donald Trump, Cohen’s attorney confirmed to CNN Monday.
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https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/09/politics/michael-cohen-fbi/index.html

In fact, for more than a decade, Cohen stood by Trump's side as his personal attorney, fixer and confidant, famously proclaiming that he would "take a bullet for the president" and "never walk away."
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https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/mic...nal-attorney-now-testifying/story?id=61327524

Donald Trump’s legal fixer Michael Cohen has also been representing the firebrand conservative Fox News host Sean Hannity, one of only three private legal clients Cohen has taken on in the past year, his lawyer told a federal court on Monday.

The revelation came as a federal judge rejected a bid by the president and Cohen to prevent US prosecutors from examining a cache of documents and recordings seized from Trump’s long-time confidant.
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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/apr/16/michael-cohen-trump-attorney-client-privilege
 
Mumbles said:
That's not the line.

Malicious use of racial slurs is a clear indicator of racism, yes, but Toupee Fiasco hardly needs it when he kicked off his presidential aspiratiocs, and his actual campaign, with a pair of plainly racist conspiracy theories (Birtherism, and the "Mexico is sending us drug-dealing rapists thing respectively)

His cultists will swear that any recording of him using a slur is fake. So...no value.
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It is true that there is more than enough evidence that Stubby McBonespurs is a racist, even if we don't have any evidence of him using the N-word.

Still, I do think finding a recording of him using it would still be of value. The problem is, when you look at the other aspects of his racism, they can always find an 'excuse'. (Birtherism? Its not racism, I'm just "asking questions". Mexican rapists? Can't be racist because Mexico isn't a 'race'. Or whatever the excuse the MAGAchud use. Not that I believe those excuses, but others might.)

On the other hand, the N-word is such a charged word that it makes it much harder to dismiss its use, or justify a non-racist explanation.
 
My hunch is the biggest indicator of whether someone is likely to slip out with the N-word or any other really crude racial slur is whether they grew up around people likely to say it. Personally I've mostly encountered it "in the wild" among rural poor. My guess is that Trump's racism manifests in ignorance and indifference--referring to a stereotype without thinking about whether it's accurate or appropriate. The whole "Pocahantas" thing, for example missing the "Fauxcahontas" variation.
 
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