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Man shot, killed by off-duty Dallas police officer who walked into wrong apartment p3

Samson said:
These are American cases.
Scalia presided over the murder of Cameron Todd Willingham and was not called to account and never risked his life.

Guyger has been called to account after risking her life every day.
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Everyone risks their life every day.

Plus do remember she was not on duty when she carried out the murder. She was busy setting up a shag with a bloke.
 
Darat said:
Everyone risks their life every day.

Plus do remember she was not on duty when she carried out the murder. She was busy setting up a shag with a bloke.
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What the hell does that have to do with it?
Scalia was plotting cold blooded murder of megafauna when his heart attacked him.
Off duty is off duty but Scalia and Guyger had guns.
Both supported by the republicans bending the will of the founding fathers to taste.
 
Samson said:
What the hell does that have to do with it?
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Off duty she has no more risk than any other citizen.

Samson said:
Scalia was plotting cold blooded murder of megafauna when his heart attacked him.
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Scalia was involved in this murder!! :jaw-dropp

Samson said:
Off duty is off duty but Scalia and Guyger had guns.
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From personal choice.
Samson said:
Both supported by the republicans bending the will of the founding fathers to taste.
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I didn't know the founding fathers were for murdering people in their own apartments :jaw-dropp ! Wow
 
I've argued in the past that the idea that "punishment" shouldn't be a factor in our criminal justice system and that rehabilitation should be our only focus is essentially saying exactly what Samson is saying.
 
Samson said:
There is evil lurking in many hearts in the corrective system including the highest in the judiciary, Antonin Scalia was a posterboy for this syndrome.
Please expand on the evil lurking in Guyger's heart and stop being so obtuse to the point I am trying to make.
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Chiming in with Joe Random and others, Guyger doesn't get a free kill. Her first go-to was to commit murder when confronted with an unexpected person, on a property she didn't have sole rights to. Literally every murderer "teaches us" something about how other murders could be avoided. They get no thanks for being a cautionary tale while commiting their felonies.

I get the point you are making, but it is entirely a minor sidebar, like saying if she got laid more often maybe she wouldn't be so aggressive. There is one primary issue here: the woman took a man's life knowingly and willfully, absent an immenent threat of grievous harm. Mistakes of fact and being sleepy and all the rest are academic to that end. She just chose to fire into the dark in an apartment. Her choice was to take life wantonly, not knowing or evidently giving a **** who was having the light go out in their eyes. That's who she is. That's what she is. A ******* sociopath.

If you want to run down the broader societal takeaways, fine. But it doesn't make her hapless or deserving of thanks.

Should cops be unarmed when off duty? Maybe, if the citizens are also disarmed in public. Is that where you are going?
 
Samson said:
Those jobs confer the illusion of control. Frontline policing is not the same.
No forester feels the threat of unpredictable attack by the tree. You know all this I think Bob001.
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You have identified the problem: Cops are killing people and getting away with it because of their empty delusions about deadly threats everywhere. What cops should be afraid of is jail.
 
Samson said:
Those jobs confer the illusion of control. Frontline policing is not the same.
No forester feels the threat of unpredictable attack by the tree. You know all this I think Bob001.
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The smart ones do. The ones who lived long enough to retire certainly did.

It's the ones who didn't who are apt to end up in the injured and dead columns.

And it isn't just foresters. Some professional arborists make a well-paid living doing little more than looking for trees that may be dangerous to people who are less well-trained or observant than they are.


ETA: Do you know what the term "widowmaker" means in the forestry trade?
 
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quadraginta said:
The smart ones do. The ones who lived long enough to retire certainly did.

It's the ones who didn't who are apt to end up in the injured and dead columns.

And it isn't just foresters. Some professional arborists make a well-paid living doing little more than looking for trees that may be dangerous to people who are less well-trained or observant than they are.


ETA: Do you know what the term "widowmaker" means in the forestry trade?
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Gum trees.
Nearly lost a friend sitting under a gum tree.
 
jimbob said:
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She had history that shows she had contempt for blacks, and joked she was doing people a favour in not shooting thrm.
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I dunno. I would certainly consider it a great favor if a psycho-cop refrained from shooting me.
 
Samson said:
Those jobs confer the illusion of control. Frontline policing is not the same.
No forester feels the threat of unpredictable attack by the tree. You know all this I think Bob001.
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How does being a Pizza Delivery person or convenience store clerk offer the illusion of control compared to policing?
 
eerok said:
In this case I have to disagree. I don't think Guyger should be shot down like a dog.
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True, given the terribly shoddy construction standards prevailing in the US, it's dangerous to shoot anyone in apartments as there is a hazard to uninvolved bystanders.
 
Samson said:
Guyger has been called to account after risking her life every day.
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:rolleyes: You do know that, despite the atmosphere created by their unions and apologists, police work in the USA is not particularly dangerous?
I assume you'll be starting to campaign for better conditions and improved pay, for loggers, rubbish collectors, roofers, delivery drivers et cetera? People who face far greater risks for lower reward.
:rolleyes:
 
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