Dershowitz claims KKK style intimidation

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Alan Dershowitz Says Maxine Waters Used KKK Tactics to 'Intimidate the Jury' in Chauvin Trial
https://www.newsweek.com/alan-dersh...tactics-intimidate-jury-chauvin-trial-1585111
Dershowitz said Waters' comments were "an attempt to intimidate the jury" so that it finds Chauvin guilty. "It's borrowed precisely from the Ku Klux Klan of the 1930s and 1920s when the Klan would march outside of courthouses and threatened all kinds of reprisals if the jury ever dared convict a white person or acquit a black person," he said.

"And so, efforts to intimidate a jury should result in a mistrial.... The judge, of course, wouldn't grant a mistrial because then he'd be responsible for the riots that would ensue, even though it was Waters who was responsible," Dershowitz continued.
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So, if the jury never heard these remarks, were they still intimidated? If they heard the remarks and are not a bunch of wimps or think that Maxine Waters is talking out her ass, are they still intimidated?

I think it's a stretch to claim actual intimidation.

Ranb
 
Dersh is a hack. He's trading in on his prior reputation and feeding right wing freaks the narratives they want to hear. Whatever respectability he had as a legal expert has been thoroughly squandered.
 
Ranb said:
Alan Dershowitz Says Maxine Waters Used KKK Tactics to 'Intimidate the Jury' in Chauvin Trial
https://www.newsweek.com/alan-dersh...tactics-intimidate-jury-chauvin-trial-1585111


So, if the jury never heard these remarks, were they still intimidated? If they heard the remarks and are not a bunch of wimps or think that Maxine Waters is talking out her ass, are they still intimidated?

I think it's a stretch to claim actual intimidation.

Ranb
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I think it's a stretch obvious and intentional lie to claim actual intimidation.
 
Ranb said:
Alan Dershowitz Says Maxine Waters Used KKK Tactics to 'Intimidate the Jury' in Chauvin Trial
https://www.newsweek.com/alan-dersh...tactics-intimidate-jury-chauvin-trial-1585111


So, if the jury never heard these remarks, were they still intimidated? If they heard the remarks and are not a bunch of wimps or think that Maxine Waters is talking out her ass, are they still intimidated?

I think it's a stretch to claim actual intimidation.

Ranb
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I wonder what a non confrontational protest is. I know storming the capital of course.
 
Ranb said:
So, if the jury never heard these remarks, were they still intimidated? If they heard the remarks and are not a bunch of wimps or think that Maxine Waters is talking out her ass, are they still intimidated?

I think it's a stretch to claim actual intimidation.

Ranb
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The biggest problem that Derpowitz is missing is that a) they were already told not to view social media and news b) they were asked the question about being intimidated by the verdict during jury questioning.

The reason the judge didn't grant a mistrial is because there was nothing to grant it on.
 
Ranb said:
Alan Dershowitz Says Maxine Waters Used KKK Tactics to 'Intimidate the Jury' in Chauvin Trial
https://www.newsweek.com/alan-dersh...tactics-intimidate-jury-chauvin-trial-1585111


So, if the jury never heard these remarks, were they still intimidated? If they heard the remarks and are not a bunch of wimps or think that Maxine Waters is talking out her ass, are they still intimidated?

I think it's a stretch to claim actual intimidation.

Ranb
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Dershowitz lost his credibility a long time ago. He knows how to litigate and to appeal.

There is no chance of an appeal succeeding on the grounds of Maxine Waters comments because (a) demonstrations and high feelings have been ongoing in the US and around the world since 25 May 2020, and (b) it is not rocket science that an acquittal would be controversial, given everyone could see the murder on a kid's cellphone livestream.
 
Vixen said:
Dershowitz lost his credibility a long time ago. He knows how to litigate and to appeal.

There is no chance of an appeal succeeding on the grounds of Maxine Waters comments because (a) demonstrations and high feelings have been ongoing in the US and around the world since 25 May 2020, and (b) it is not rocket science that an acquittal would be controversial, given everyone could see the murder on a kid's cellphone livestream.
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Yes but clearly there would not be confrontational protests with out her. I am stilly trying to find out what a non confrontational protest is though as confrontation is the point of protest.
 
JoeMorgue said:
Dershowitz needed to quit while he was ahead and retire after OJ.
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Yeah, he has gone from respected defense attorney to a total clown. I don't think anyone in the legal community takes him and his BS seriously anymore.
 
JoeMorgue said:
Dershowitz needed to quit while he was ahead and retire after OJ.
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I bet he has made more money not practicing law over the last five years than he did in any five years of practicing law. All while working much less. And that is the only measure that matters.
 
Ranb said:
Alan Dershowitz Says Maxine Waters Used KKK Tactics to 'Intimidate the Jury' in Chauvin Trial
https://www.newsweek.com/alan-dersh...tactics-intimidate-jury-chauvin-trial-1585111


So, if the jury never heard these remarks, were they still intimidated? If they heard the remarks and are not a bunch of wimps or think that Maxine Waters is talking out her ass, are they still intimidated?

I think it's a stretch to claim actual intimidation.
Ranb
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It's certainly a stretch to claim that it was intimidation that caused the guilty verdict with no more evidence for the intimidation than the verdict.
 
abhorrent

"Cahill denied the motion but called it “disrespectful to the rule of law and to the judicial branch” for elected officials to comment on the outcome of the case." “Their failure to do so, I think, is abhorrent, he said. link

Maybe Professor Dershowitz framed the issue in a less-than-ideal way, but Congressman Waters' remarks were remarkably ill-considered.
 
I'm also going back and forth with people on Facebook who just "know" that the jurors were intimidated into returning a guilty verdict. The usual excuse used in place of evidence is the "I would be scared too" crap. :)

There are also the usual claims of doxxing and releasing the photos and names of the jurors online (no links provided) and some mysterious "someone" who ensured rioters got the juror names and addresses. It's insane.
 
Ranb said:
I'm also going back and forth with people on Facebook who just "know" that the jurors were intimidated into returning a guilty verdict. The usual excuse used in place of evidence is the "I would be scared too" crap. :)

There are also the usual claims of doxxing and releasing the photos and names of the jurors online (no links provided) and some mysterious "someone" who ensured rioters got the juror names and addresses. It's insane.
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let's face it, a lot of people on the right feel the police should have the right to kill a black person at will as a means of control by fear. Oh, few will actuallly say this is so many words, but I think that is behind a lot of the support of Chauvin.
 
I'm fairly certain that Chauvin is thinking "what is this country coming to?".
 
Douchewitz is well past his use-by date.

Like many on the right, he has become a Trump sycophant, and in so doing, he has taken what was once an outstanding career in his chosen profession, and then set about destroying his own legacy by ******** on it from a great height.
 
Ranb said:
I'm also going back and forth with people on Facebook who just "know" that the jurors were intimidated into returning a guilty verdict. The usual excuse used in place of evidence is the "I would be scared too" crap. :)

There are also the usual claims of doxxing and releasing the photos and names of the jurors online (no links provided) and some mysterious "someone" who ensured rioters got the juror names and addresses. It's insane.
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It's like they watched a different trial than we did. Or more likely many of them didn't watch the trial at all, they just went straight for the word of mouth version in their alt-right echo chamber.
 
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