Hunter Biden Interview on Jimmy Kimmel

[dirtywick]

The laptop story as it unfolded was so bizarre.

The shop owner having apparent face blindness so they couldn't identify that Hunter dropped it off. The idea that the laptop was submitted to the FBI who put it into custody of the President's personal lawyer who held no government position? The fact that most of the supposed damning content was released in random, unofficial leak, distributed through chan sites and social media, with no official statement or way to distinguish what Giuliani was alleging to be real from any random photoshopped crap or made up claim being circulated. All from a laptop apparently abandoned in a city he didn't live in?

That's not how anything real works.

What I makes more sense than any of the bizarre chain of custody being claimed, is that somehow some Trump surrogate got ahold of either a used laptop or simply some files belonging Hunter and knew that once they could show they had something private of Hunter's, they could use that to claim that anything they like was found alongside it. I don't imagine Hunter was super careful with his cloud accounts when he was using crack, so I suspect personal photos or emails were as easy to access as celebrity photos stolen from the cloud by bored teenagers.

It had a sticker on it though

 

[eerok]

It had a sticker on it though

Did it say привет из россии ?

 

[Minoosh]

I was fine with Hunter but Jimmy Kimmel said something that kind of bugged me. Something like, "Your father always says the right thing," which I thought was overly obsequious (and I can't believe I spelled that right the first time). Fawning. I get that Kimmel is a comedian and he's certainly under no obligation to be neutral, but I do prefer a general irreverence toward people in power. Even when you're indescribably relieved that Biden got elected and prefer him over Trump a thousandfold. He should be fair game.

The problem is, a late-night show teasing Biden for a gaffe should be fine, but Trump fans don't do good-natured ribbing. A moment's forgetfulness might yield a good joke, but Trump's supporters will take it as proof that Biden is suffering from advanced dementia. On the other hand, those folks are already convinced and will just make up **** anyway, or swallow whole the lies that other people manufacture for them.

ETA: I'm probably a bit spoiled by looking at clips of old Dick Cavett interviews on YouTube. And yeah, he sucked up too on occasion.

 

[Cavemonster]

I was fine with Hunter but Jimmy Kimmel said something that kind of bugged me. Something like, "Your father always says the right thing," which I thought was overly obsequious (and I can't believe I spelled that right the first time). Fawning. I get that Kimmel is a comedian and he's certainly under no obligation to be neutral, but I do prefer a general irreverence toward people in power. Even when you're indescribably relieved that Biden got elected and prefer him over Trump a thousandfold. He should be fair game.

The problem is, a late-night show teasing Biden for a gaffe should be fine, but Trump fans don't do good-natured ribbing. A moment's forgetfulness might yield a good joke, but Trump's supporters will take it as proof that Biden is suffering from advanced dementia. On the other hand, those folks are already convinced and will just make up **** anyway, or swallow whole the lies that other people manufacture for them.

ETA: I'm probably a bit spoiled by looking at clips of old Dick Cavett interviews on YouTube. And yeah, he sucked up too on occasion.

I didn't watch it, but are you sure he wasn't joking?

I voted for Biden, but the last thing I'd ever say about him is that he always says the right thing. It is very famously one of his major flaws that he puts his foot in his mouth and says weird inappropriate stuff with some regularity. That wouldn't just be obsequious, that would be pretty clearly false.

 

[Puppycow]

I didn't watch it, but are you sure he wasn't joking?

I voted for Biden, but the last thing I'd ever say about him is that he always says the right thing. It is very famously one of his major flaws that he puts his foot in his mouth and says weird inappropriate stuff with some regularity. That wouldn't just be obsequious, that would be pretty clearly false.

True. He was rather famous for his gaffes even before becoming president. He was said to have "foot-in-mouth disease".

He said Obama was "articulate and clean". Many others I can't remember.

I guess I'd have to watch the video to figure out whether Kimmel was saying that ironically or not.

 

[Minoosh]

I didn't watch it, but are you sure he wasn't joking?

I voted for Biden, but the last thing I'd ever say about him is that he always says the right thing. It is very famously one of his major flaws that he puts his foot in his mouth and says weird inappropriate stuff with some regularity. That wouldn't just be obsequious, that would be pretty clearly false.

Kimmel was serious, but context matters. "He always says the right thing" referred, I think, to Joe saying the right thing as a parent. This was in context of Hunter marrying a woman he'd known for a week. Joe didn't say "WHAT? Are you out of your ******* mind?!" No, he got on the phone with the woman (Melissa) and said, "Thank you for giving my son the courage to love again."

It was nothing to do with political speech, social issues etc. Just that Joe had the kind of reaction you hope for when you tell your parents something that might upset them.

 

[Elagabalus]

And Billy Beer.

I've given up complaining about relatives getting mysteriously rich (much less the politicians directly.)

I guess you and yours are just investment geniuses nobody can ever "prove" wrongdoing. Ergo clean, pure investment geniuses. Look, even some bad investments! Yet the bottom line keeps going way up at many times your nominal salaries.


Hint: They are all corrupt. That's why they go into government. "Good policies" are just cover stories to win elections.

Or you could look it up on wiki and see what gigs Hunter had before the whole Burisma thing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunter_Biden#Early_career

"Hunter Biden was appointed to a five-year term on the board of directors of Amtrak by President George W. Bush in 2006.[13] Biden was the board's vice chairman from July 2006 until 2009; he resigned in January 2009,[14][15] shortly after his father became vice president." (Wiki)

Remember Joe Biden was in year 36 of his "do nothing" phase so he wasn't a major player (for Hunter) until he was VP.

 

[PhantomWolf]

Or you could look it up on wiki and see what gigs Hunter had before the whole Burisma thing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunter_Biden#Early_career

"Hunter Biden was appointed to a five-year term on the board of directors of Amtrak by President George W. Bush in 2006.[13] Biden was the board's vice chairman from July 2006 until 2009; he resigned in January 2009,[14][15] shortly after his father became vice president." (Wiki)

Remember Joe Biden was in year 36 of his "do nothing" phase so he wasn't a major player (for Hunter) until he was VP.

But you have to remember that the same people that claim he didn't have any experience to be on Burisma's board are the same ones that claim all the other stuff he did prior to Burisma was only because of his father too. It creates the perfect scenario where they can claim that he has fo nothing but rely on his father's name, regardless of what he actually managed to do.

 

[Puppycow]

But you have to remember that the same people that claim he didn't have any experience to be on Burisma's board are the same ones that claim all the other stuff he did prior to Burisma was only because of his father too. It creates the perfect scenario where they can claim that he has fo nothing but rely on his father's name, regardless of what he actually managed to do.

Wait, are you suggesting that getting appointed to the board of Amtrak wasn't due to his father's political influence behind the scenes?

Also, why was that the only bit quoted?

After graduating from law school in 1996, Biden accepted a position at the bank holding company MBNA, a major contributor to his father's political campaigns.[5] By 1998, Biden had risen to the rank of executive vice president.[5]

Hmmm, first job was at a bank that was a major contributor to his father's political campaigns, and within two year of being hired he was already "executive vice president"?

[10] He then left to serve at the United States Department of Commerce until 2001, focusing on ecommerce policy for President Bill Clinton's administration.[11] Biden then became a lobbyist, co-founding the firm of Oldaker, Biden & Belair.[12] According to Adam Entous of The New Yorker, Biden and his father established a relationship in which "Biden wouldn't ask Hunter about his lobbying clients, and Hunter wouldn't tell his father about them."[5]

Hunter Biden was appointed to a five-year term on the board of directors of Amtrak by President George W. Bush in 2006.[13] Biden was the board's vice chairman from July 2006 until 2009; he resigned in January 2009,[14][15] shortly after his father became vice president. Biden said during his father's vice-presidential campaign that it was time for his lobbying activities to end.[5]

The board of directors of Amtrak thing wasn't even his primary occupation at the time, which was being a lobbyist.
Why would Bush, a Republican, nominate Biden? Maybe it was part of a package deal, so that Democrats wouldn't slow down or oppose his other nominees? These things are what they call "political horse trading". You give the opposition something they want in exchange for something you want. Exactly what the price was, I'm not entirely sure. Biden was the only Democrat on the board at the time (1 Democrat, 7 Republicans), so he effectively had no power anyway. It was a token concession with no real political cost to Republicans, who retained complete control over the board.

 

[Elagabalus]

But you have to remember that the same people that claim he didn't have any experience to be on Burisma's board are the same ones that claim all the other stuff he did prior to Burisma was only because of his father too. It creates the perfect scenario where they can claim that he has fo nothing but rely on his father's name, regardless of what he actually managed to do.

Those "people" have an Achilles heel. Anybody defending Hunter makes their heads explode. So defend Hunter and watch their heads explode. It's easy and fun!

 

[PhantomWolf]

Wait, are you suggesting that getting appointed to the board of Amtrak wasn't due to his father's political influence behind the scenes?

Actually what I was suggesting, in actual fact stating bluntly, is that it's irrelevant whether he got the job because of his father or totally on his own, those that are being vocal don't actually care. In their eyes, it would have been impossible for him to hold any job above a floor sweeper at McDonald's without attributing it to his father because that's the easy play. The evidence that he got a good job because of his father is that he got a good job. Who needs anything else when you can just spout a heap of conjecture and say, "He couldn't possibly be able to get that any other way!"

 

[Cavemonster]

Wait, are you suggesting that getting appointed to the board of Amtrak wasn't due to his father's political influence behind the scenes?

Also, why was that the only bit quoted?


Hmmm, first job was at a bank that was a major contributor to his father's political campaigns, and within two year of being hired he was already "executive vice president"?


The board of directors of Amtrak thing wasn't even his primary occupation at the time, which was being a lobbyist.
Why would Bush, a Republican, nominate Biden? Maybe it was part of a package deal, so that Democrats wouldn't slow down or oppose his other nominees? These things are what they call "political horse trading". You give the opposition something they want in exchange for something you want. Exactly what the price was, I'm not entirely sure. Biden was the only Democrat on the board at the time (1 Democrat, 7 Republicans), so he effectively had no power anyway. It was a token concession with no real political cost to Republicans, who retained complete control over the board.

That the president of the United states appointed the son of a rival to a job he was unqualified for as a back room trade for political favors is a pretty major conspiracy theory to advance with zero actual evidence.

Not to mention the absurdity of the idea that some substantial number of democrats would get on board with legislation they otherwise opposed if Joe's son got some particular job. The idea that THAT is something the "other side" wanted, is fankly slanderous.

You're in the wrong section for that. Go to conspiracies.

 

[Dr. Keith]

Actually what I was suggesting, in actual fact stating bluntly, is that it's irrelevant whether he got the job because of his father or totally on his own, those that are being vocal don't actually care. In their eyes, it would have been impossible for him to hold any job above a floor sweeper at McDonald's without attributing it to his father because that's the easy play. The evidence that he got a good job because of his father is that he got a good job. Who needs anything else when you can just spout a heap of conjecture and say, "He couldn't possibly be able to get that any other way!"

You're wrong. The real question is what was McDonalds getting out of hiring someone who had never before used a broom professionally? Yeah, that's another thing that Hunter has just mysteriously forgotten.

 

[acbytesla]

Actually what I was suggesting, in actual fact stating bluntly, is that it's irrelevant whether he got the job because of his father or totally on his own, those that are being vocal don't actually care. In their eyes, it would have been impossible for him to hold any job above a floor sweeper at McDonald's without attributing it to his father because that's the easy play. The evidence that he got a good job because of his father is that he got a good job. Who needs anything else when you can just spout a heap of conjecture and say, "He couldn't possibly be able to get that any other way!"

Hunter Biden has a BA from Georgetown and JD from Yale Law School. He sounds quite eloquent. This is enough in many circles to get a 6 figure job. And I've noticed there are lots of high paying jobs in this country where you can fake it for years.(Not saying he was faking it, but he could have been)

 

[Elagabalus]

Hunter Biden has a BA from Georgetown and JD from Yale Law School. He sounds quite eloquent. This is enough in many circles to get a 6 figure job. And I've noticed there are lots of high paying jobs in this country where you can fake it for years.(Not saying he was faking it, but he could have been)

Was this nitpick really necessary? Here's a view of the "larger" picture and what has been normalized into mainstream GQP groupthink. Dig the comments. See any nuance in there?

Hunter Biden defends Burisma role, claims expertise in corporate governance

https://www.oann.com/hunter-biden-d...e-in-corporate-governance/#comment-5336848430


And just for fun:

DARPA unveils ‘COVID microchip,’ claims not for surveillance purposes

https://www.oann.com/darpa-unveils-covid-microchip-claims-not-for-surveillance-purposes/

 

[acbytesla]

Was this nitpick really necessary? Here's a view of the "larger" picture and what has been normalized into mainstream GQP groupthink. Dig the comments. See any nuance in there?

Hunter Biden defends Burisma role, claims expertise in corporate governance

https://www.oann.com/hunter-biden-d...e-in-corporate-governance/#comment-5336848430

And just for fun:

DARPA unveils ‘COVID microchip,’ claims not for surveillance purposes

https://www.oann.com/darpa-unveils-covid-microchip-claims-not-for-surveillance-purposes/

Seriously? You're referencing OANN? The first article is fine. The second is insane.

 

[RecoveringYuppy]

Given his "for fun" comment I think he's citing it for comedic value.

 

[acbytesla]

Given his "for fun" comment I think he's citing it for comedic value.

I think you're right. Sometimes it is tough to pick up on this stuff when it is in print. Especially today. Trump just issued a statement that could have been in the Onion.

 

[Stacyhs]

The Feds just raided Giuliani's NYC apartment seizing electronic devices regarding the DOJ's investigation into his lobbying Ukraine for dirt on Hunter Biden according to CNN. This ain't over, Rudy.

 

[PhantomWolf]

The Feds just raided Giuliani's NYC apartment seizing electronic devices regarding the DOJ's investigation into his lobbying Ukraine for dirt on Hunter Biden according to CNN. This ain't over, Rudy.

According to Rudy's son, the only thing that the FBI didn't take was the laptop belonging to Hunter. Ummm, did he just claim that Giuliani has what would therefore be stolen property in his apartment?