The Biden Presidency

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The question is if the GOP can develop a new gimmick for 2022 like the Tea Party's open racism and sudden deficit concerns or the squalid "Contract with America".
 
kookbreaker said:
The question is if the GOP can develop a new gimmick for 2022 like the Tea Party's open racism and sudden deficit concerns or the squalid "Contract with America".
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They are working the racism card. I don't think A new Contract for America is going to work.
 
kookbreaker said:
The question is if the GOP can develop a new gimmick for 2022 like the Tea Party's open racism and sudden deficit concerns or the squalid "Contract with America".
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Why bother with new? They've re-used the "Sudden Deficit Concern®" gimmick for every Democratic presidency or congressional majority I can remember. Seems to keep working on the only voters they care about.
 
GodMark2 said:
Why bother with new? They've re-used the "Sudden Deficit Concern®" gimmick for every Democratic presidency or congressional majority I can remember. Seems to keep working on the only voters they care about.
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If they're so concerned about the deficit, they could call for higher taxes on the rich or cuts in farm subsidies.
 
acbytesla said:
As much as I'd like to see some gun control, I'd pass on reform of that right now. Bigger fish to fry.
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I've been saying this for a very long time. I think there are some laws that might help (and a bunch that will do little). But they generate such a negative reaction that I've wished we might leave it alone for a while and get some other reforms taken care of while we have the solidarity.
 
acbytesla said:
If they're so concerned about the deficit, they could call for higher taxes on the rich or cuts in farm subsidies.
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They could even rescind the tax cuts ushered in during Trump's watch. :rolleyes:

BTW, GW did the same thing, got all these tax cuts through claiming the government should give back all those extra taxes they collected which was false on two fronts: There was a huge deficit that the GOP legislators could have paid down, and of course Bush simply used the credit card to pay for the war instead of rescinding the tax cuts.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
They could even rescind the tax cuts ushered in during Trump's watch. :rolleyes:

BTW, GW did the same thing, got all these tax cuts through claiming the government should give back all those extra taxes they collected which was false on two fronts: There was a huge deficit that the GOP legislators could have paid down, and of course Bush simply used the credit card to pay for the war instead of rescinding the tax cuts.
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Clinton is the only President at least since before Hoover to create surpluses. He had the US on a path to eliminate the National Debt entirely. The GOP said "the hell with that!" and blew up the budget for tax cuts and the military.
 
acbytesla said:
This is why I believe it is imperative to make DC and PR States ....
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Trebuchet said:
Highly desirable; ain't gonna happen.
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I was inclined to agree with Trebuchet because I thought the existing states had to approve the new state. Turns out that's not the case - it only takes a majority of both halves of congress (assuming the filibuster is dead). In that case, I do think it just might be possible.

The Dems ought to give it a try, for two reasons:
  1. If it happens, it gives the Dems a far better position in the Senate; and
  2. No matter what the outcome, it'll drive the GOP up the wall.

I suppose I should be a bit shamed by the last point because "pissing off the libtards" is so much of what the GOP does and I don't like it. However, I'll just admit that there's a vindictive, hypocritical side of me and let it be. :p :D
 
There’s a few GQP gimmicks that might not sail these days. Hyper-panic over the deficit is one of them. It’s still got legs but it depends on people purely voting against their interests when Moscow Mitch declares it must be balanced on Medicare.

Other gimmicks I suspect won’t work will be the whole “job creators” they pulled when Obama wanted to tax the wealthy. The GQP will need to depend on Democratic disunity to break that one.
 
SezMe said:
I was inclined to agree with Trebuchet because I thought the existing states had to approve the new state. Turns out that's not the case - it only takes a majority of both halves of congress (assuming the filibuster is dead). In that case, I do think it just might be possible.

The Dems ought to give it a try, for two reasons:
  1. If it happens, it gives the Dems a far better position in the Senate; and
  2. No matter what the outcome, it'll drive the GOP up the wall.

I suppose I should be a bit shamed by the last point because "pissing off the libtards" is so much of what the GOP does and I don't like it. However, I'll just admit that there's a vindictive, hypocritical side of me and let it be. :p :D
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I don't care about driving the GOP up a wall. I just want to make democracy work and weaken the power of rural America. Force the GOP to sell their policies to all of America and not just racists and farmers.
 
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Just on a slightly different tack, I have to say that I never thought I would enjoy watching White House press conferences so much until this year.

Whenever some dickwit reporter from Faux News, or One America Nutjobs or Newswanks tries to pull out a "gotcha" question, that Jen Psaki woman just dismantles their arguments and humiliates them in front of the press corps.

Truly awesome to watch!
 
smartcooky said:
Just on a slightly different tack, I have to say that I never thought I would enjoy watching White House press conferences so much until this year.

Whenever some dickwit reporter from Faux News, or One America Nutjobs or Newswanks tries to pull out a "gotcha" question, that Jen Psaki woman just dismantles their arguments and humiliates them in front of the press corps.

Truly awesome to watch!
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If you're a reporter for one of those three organizations, is humiliation even possible?
 
Their viewers will say that they made Psaki squirm and cheer them on.
 
slyjoe said:
If you're a reporter for one of those three organizations, is humiliation even possible?
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I think there are precious few left in the News Division of Fox who are. Most actual journalists are leaving or trying to leave. Newsmax and OAN not so much.
 
acbytesla said:
I don't care about driving the GOP up a wall. I just want to make democracy work and weaken the power of rural America. Force the GOP to sell their policies to all of America and not just racists and farmers.
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That's an unfair characterization of Republican supporters, you forgot coal miners and of course that some of those racists are farmers and coal miners.;)
 
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